AE Air Issues and Air OOB Issues [OUTDATED]

[Iron Duke]

Avenger I has an avail. date of 3/44 same as the Avenger II

Avenger I should be avail. about 2/43 - 3/43 ??

[Splinterhead]

ORIGINAL: DBS

Public Beta Scen 1

Beaufort I (#061) - production only starts 04/43. Should be 04/42 I would hazard.

And there is zero build rate for the RAF Catalina I #071...

The RAF Catalina I (071) is built in Vancouver at a rate of 3. The Canadian PBY is the Canso and is built off map.

[Gary D]

Found a KI-44 Tojo squadron in Canton December 8th 41. Looks like they should not produce til 9/42, this is in scenario 6, the December 8th start.

[jwilkerson]

This was a unit consisting of the prototypes.

[Reg]

ORIGINAL: Gary D

Found a KI-44 Tojo squadron in Canton December 8th 41. Looks like they should not produce til 9/42, this is in scenario 6, the December 8th start.

Gary D, a history lesson for ya...

[size=-2]Wikipedia[/size]

The pre-production Ki-44 aircraft and two of the prototypes were turned over to the Army for service trials on 15 September 1941. The type commenced operations with one experimental unit, the 47th Chutai (Independent Air Company) ("Kawasemi Buntai", Kingfisher Unit) sent to Saigon, Indochina in December 1941 with nine aircraft under the command of Major Toshio Sakagawa.

Don't lose these aircraft too early as you won't get any replacements until the factories come on line.

You gotta love the attention to detail in this game... [&o]

[DBS]

ORIGINAL: Splinterhead

ORIGINAL: DBS

Public Beta Scen 1

Beaufort I (#061) - production only starts 04/43. Should be 04/42 I would hazard.

And there is zero build rate for the RAF Catalina I #071...

The RAF Catalina I (071) is built in Vancouver at a rate of 3. The Canadian PBY is the Canso and is built off map.

Thanks - I had checked US locations for Catalina build but had not checked Vancouver. Beaufort error still stands, I think.

Further, have noticed that Wasp's airgroups have an apparent editing error in Beta Scen 1. #1776 VS-71 is marked to withdraw, but returns as itself (ie 1776). What I assume is that it should in fact return as #1775 VBF-71, since that will otherwise fail to come into play. Of course, all moot if Wasp doesn't last longer than in real life.

Lastly, would question rating the B-17G as having four .5" in the nose. It is true that the aircraft often did carry four weapons there - two in the chin turret and one each side in cheek windows - but an absolute maximum of three could be brought to bear, and that only if the attacker obliged by coming within the pretty limited field of fire of one of the cheek guns. And the navigator could only physically fire one of the cheek guns at any one time anyway - given the speed of a headon attack, would suggest that only a Hollywood film would allow him to switch to the other should an attacker flit from one bow to the other... personally I have edited the value down to just the twin turret.

Oh - minor typo on device #1864 APS-15 Rader.

[DBS]

ORIGINAL: langleyCV1

242 Squadron and 605 Squadron missing from the order of battle they should be available mid February 1942 in Java.

MJT

If you are referring to Scenario 1, they are in fact there - 232(P) Sqn renames to 242, and 258 Sqn renames to 605; both on 25 Feb 42.

ORIGINAL: jcjordan
Also it seems that the British Walrus's upgrade to NZ Walrus's though the unit stays Brit. I've seen it happen to 2 of the FAA 700 squadron on Brit CLs.

If those are the flights on Leander and Achilles, then OK since they were Kiwi cruisers but with FAA flights. If not...

[langleyCV1]

Thanks for the update after rereading Bloody Shambles it would appear this is the correct way forward.
Many Thanks

MJT

[DBS]

However, have just noticed that Beta Scenario 1 has the B-29-25 sporting one of its top turrets as a quadruple .5".

EDIT - ignore, have just learnt that this is correct. [8|]

[tigercub]

The B7A2 is classed as a dive bomber in the game.....but carries a torp as it should is this the way you want it?


Tiger!

[Zebedee]

NM.

[Gilbert]

ORIGINAL: tigercub

The B7A2 is classed as a dive bomber in the game.....but carries a torp as it should is this the way you want it?


Tiger!

It was a multi-purpose plane

see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aichi_B7A

Regards
Gilbert

[herwin]

ORIGINAL: tigercub

The B7A2 is classed as a dive bomber in the game.....but carries a torp as it should is this the way you want it?


Tiger!

Conceptually, it was an attack aircraft, with a combination of dive-bombing and torpedo-dropping capabilities similar to those of the Fairey Barracuda, Douglas Skyraider, Curtiss Helldiver and BTC, and Martin Mauler.

Yes, the SB2C could lug and drop a torpedo.

[jcjordan]

ORIGINAL: DBS

ORIGINAL: langleyCV1

242 Squadron and 605 Squadron missing from the order of battle they should be available mid February 1942 in Java.

MJT

If you are referring to Scenario 1, they are in fact there - 232(P) Sqn renames to 242, and 258 Sqn renames to 605; both on 25 Feb 42.

ORIGINAL: jcjordan
Also it seems that the British Walrus's upgrade to NZ Walrus's though the unit stays Brit. I've seen it happen to 2 of the FAA 700 squadron on Brit CLs.

If those are the flights on Leander and Achilles, then OK since they were Kiwi cruisers but with FAA flights. If not...

DBS No these are the Brit cruisers that are converting not the NZ ones

[Pascal_slith]

ORIGINAL: bsq

Some Air Leader issues:

Keith Park - should be an Air Marshal (promoted in 1941 when he took over at Malta). His stats (IMO) are too low. He was considered one of the greatest Air Commanders ever produced by the RAF (even though he was a New Zealander), yet he rates (much) lower than Curtis LeMay. At the very least his Air Skill should be on par with LeMay and his Skill and Inspiration should be much higher.

Agree. He did an excellent job in the Battle of Britain, on Malta, and in the Far East.

[Montbrun]

v1083c Beta (Allies v Jap AI) - In addition to the pilot experience thing, which has already been discussed, I'm not seeing any "black letter" pilots, or pilots eligible to be transferred to training command, after the Beta patch.

[langleyCV1]

I think this was removed in the patch you mentioned I seem to remember!

MJT

[langleyCV1]

V1083c beta Scen1 VMF-211 Det is on wake as it should be but where is the main unit it was on PH in the the last version. Is this a bug or does VMF-211 only appear after the Det is destroyed.

MJT

[scott64]

PBJ-1H Mitchell
Info states available from 10/44 to 1/43 [&:]

[DrewMatrix]

Could we please have an authoritative comment on Allied A/C production rates? See the "Allied Replacement Aircraft Replacement Rate" thread). I can understand that for AI play balance reasons Japanese A/C production could be boosted. That isn't what concerns me. I am concerned that the Allied A/C production rates are way off, by more than an order of magnitude.
 
For F4F (3s 3as and 4s) I get about 7000+ total production. I am a little uncertain as to how many were lend lease but I don't recall hearing that the majority went to Canada nor British units in the Far East. I am pretty sure 90% of them didn't go to the ETO.  That "7000" could be 7500 or 7700 or so. But that is only a 10% error.
 
At 53/month (counting the recon models in the total to get to 53) that number can be built in 136 months ie by about August 1954.

For total production I get a ratio of about 7700 F4Fs (not to mention about 12,000 F6Fs) to about 11,000 A6M (_all_ A6M models 2>8). That isn't a ratio of 6:1 in favor of the Japanese economy.

I keep being told the Allied A/C prodcution is carefully researched and spot on. How do the Allies get to 7000+ F4Fs?
 
The problem with this is that with those allied production rates a war of attrition is a winning strategy for Japan and that doesn't seem all correct.