Camerone in Russia (STEF78 vs Schascha), Schascha welcome

[STEF78]

Like Terje, I will try a last defence around Berlin. I'm still controling whole Hungary but Schascha wil reach the plain within 2 turns



The objective is to gather the max of units around Berlin. The hungarians will delay the russians.

[STEF78]

The retreat in the north. I evacuate some units from Danzig, rail a whole army on the Oder. Schascha should be slowed by the lack of rail lines close of the front.

[loki100]

looking grim, be interesting to see if you match Terje's epic delaying of the bitter end

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: loki100

looking grim, be interesting to see if you match Terje's epic delaying of the bitter end

I don't think so. Terje was more cautious/less confident/best player than me and had prepared several lines of defence around Berlin. I didn't.

In fact I didn't even thought that all my northern front would collapse in 3 weeks

May be I will change the name of my AAR to "Camerone in Berlin"

[Peltonx]

What did your OOB look like in August and what did production look like?

You have to stop counter attacks starting Jan 43 as this simply causes the swapping issues to kick in sooner. Plus any units pocketed causes a major snowball effect as 90% of replasements go to the returning units.
A slow 1 hex per turn withdrawal starting in winter of 43/44 causes a hvy lose of trucks to SHC and greatly lowers attrition loses as there is no contact.

Also you built to many FZ to the east, they need to be built 30 hexes from Berlin. Why because IF you can be 30 hexes from Berlin in October 44 SHC is not going to get to Berlin in time. If you been able to slowly withdraw to there and not lose to many units to pockets there will be a solid blanket of FZ's for 300 miles to Berlin. Throw in a bunch of mud+ high MP's during blizzard and holding out is possible.

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: Pelton

What did your OOB look like in August and what did production look like?

See below the evolution of my OOB. I've no shortage in production but useless pools in bombers, old fighters. I've converted most bombers into fighters. I've plenty od pre-1943 squad rifle available in pool (roughly 18 000) but not much post-1943 (500)

You have to stop counter attacks starting Jan 43 as this simply causes the swapping issues to kick in sooner. Plus any units pocketed causes a major snowball effect as 90% of replasements go to the returning units.

Concerning counter attacks, I feel they were efficient till srping 1944. SHC was prevented from occupying hexes adjacent to my units. I didn't suffer any major encirclement prior the one end august 1944.

A slow 1 hex per turn withdrawal starting in winter of 43/44 causes a hvy lose of trucks to SHC and greatly lowers attrition loses as there is no contact.

I did it, and even better, till may 1944. It doesn't work anymore. The speed of digging is too slow against such a huge red Army

Also you built to many FZ to the east, they need to be built 30 hexes from Berlin. Why because IF you can be 30 hexes from Berlin in October 44 SHC is not going to get to Berlin in time. If you been able to slowly withdraw to there and not lose to many units to pockets there will be a solid blanket of FZ's for 300 miles to Berlin. Throw in a bunch of mud+ high MP's during blizzard and holding out is possible.

Perhaps you're right. I felt confident till spring 1944, was short of AP and prefered preparing 2 lines on the niemen and on the vistula. Obviously, I was wrong on this point

[carlkay58]

Pelton, falling back does not lessen your attrition as long as the Soviets continue to maintain contact. It DOES lower the Soviet attrition as they are not in enemy ZOC during their supply phase.

Attrition is calculated during the friendly supply phase for all units adjacent to an enemy unit. The size of the enemy unit does not matter. If you pull back during your movement phase, the Soviets are no longer adjacent to the enemy and have little or no attrition losses. They then move into contact with your forces in their turn and your supply phase sees your units adjacent to enemy units and suffering attrition.

[STEF78]

Turn 172, 28th september 1944

In Poland, Schascha advances to Berlin as fast as possible. The Danzig Pocket is still holding. That's a good news, I will be able to evacuate some units.

In Hungary 2 armies are running like hell to their homeland. The hungarians will hold the line as long as they can. Not fair, they were reliable allies!

In Germany, you can see all the vampires which absorb my supply.

[STEF78]

A closer view of the direct road to Berlin.

You can call it propaganda, I show the successfull counterattack! This time LVIIth's Hube takes his revenge!

[Peltonx]

ORIGINAL: carlkay58

Pelton, falling back does not lessen your attrition as long as the Soviets continue to maintain contact. It DOES lower the Soviet attrition as they are not in enemy ZOC during their supply phase.

Attrition is calculated during the friendly supply phase for all units adjacent to an enemy unit. The size of the enemy unit does not matter. If you pull back during your movement phase, the Soviets are no longer adjacent to the enemy and have little or no attrition losses. They then move into contact with your forces in their turn and your supply phase sees your units adjacent to enemy units and suffering attrition.

Good point I never new that.

I guess the main point is during snow and blizzard it makes it next to impossible for SHC to pocket any units. Even during summer its not an easy task.



I am very interested to see results from games started after 1.07.11 to see the effects.

[STEF78]

Turn 173, 5th october 1944

The red hordes arrive very fast. Let's see an overview of the front



I've lost Poland, Pomern, East prussia. I think I will be able to hold the carpathian line till the mud.

The front line is Oder, Warthe and then the Carpthian Mountains and some units pocketed in Danzig. Look at the heroic defence of the city.

I've tried to determine the location of SHC raihead line. In the north, he should begin to have some supply difficulties.

[STEF78]

Focus of some hot points

1) Stettin

SHC is 20 miles from the Oder river. I launched 2 successfull counterattacks. I can't do more... I've concentrated on these 2 attacks 1/3 of my AFV!



2) Ostrava

Another marvelous success!!



3) Hungary

SHC is reaching the plain

[STEF78]

WITE is really amazing!

The game against Schascha begun more than a real year life ago!!!

It represents several hundred of hours of play. My best game's purchase ever!

My wife and my daughters call WITE "the little war". Am I crazy?

[Flaviusx]

None of the women in my life have ever understood my wargaming hobby. That's just the way it is, and always has been.

[Bozo_the_Clown]

Am I crazy?

No you are not. It's an amazing game.

My wife and daughters call me "Bozo" for playing this game. [:D]

[STEF78]

Thanks!

Nice to see I'm not the only one[:)]

[STEF78]

Turn 173, 5th october 1944

I wanted to post one of my too rare defending successes thanks to 2 reserve activation

[smokindave34]

I think it's time to break out the "wonder weapons" Stef78......

I agree - the money I have spent on WITE has been without a doubt been my best gaming investment. [:D]

[STEF78]

ORIGINAL: smokindave34

I think it's time to break out the "wonder weapons" Stef78......

I'm waiting for them. They will be ready for january 1946. I will begin my massive counterattack at this time!

[Bozo_the_Clown]

I agree - the money I have spent on WITE has been without a doubt been my best gaming investment.

Yes, this game and maybe Half Life 2 and Bioshock 1 and 2. [:D] Games you always come back to.