FITE2 EARLY START Loveman2 vs thomasharvey

[thomasharvey]

T137 10/11/42 This view is the Ternopol front.

[thomasharvey]

T137 10/11/42 Here is a view of the Hungarian front showing many areas broken open.

[thomasharvey]

T137 10/11/42 Here is the Rumanian front. One large opening in their line.

There is only one turn left before the mud begins. The offensive will slow but will not stop. Once the snow turns begin the offensive will go forward with reckless abandon, heedless of loss, all the way to Berlin.

[thomasharvey]

T138 10/14/42 Everything north of this Lvov front is still holding. Everything south is giving way.

[thomasharvey]

T138 10/14/42 Here is the Hungarian front. It appears the entire force of Hungarians are nearly surrounded. The next turn is full mud effects so it looks grim for the Hungarians.

[thomasharvey]

T138 10/14/42 Here is the Italian front. They are holding better than either the Hungarians or the Rumanians. However even their front is starting to show signs of stress.

[thomasharvey]

T138 10/14/42 The Romanians are still holding their lines despite significant losses. The next turn starts the mud period so they may last a while.

[fogger]

Hi Tom
Can we have a shot from space of the entire front please
John

[thomasharvey]

ORIGINAL: fogger

Hi Tom
Can we have a shot from space of the entire front please
John

T138 10/14/42 Hi John

Here is a view from Space.

[golden delicious]

Looks like the Axis needed to pull back the whole southern flank, but now it's already too late. A line along the Carpathians might have been possible before everyone got enveloped. Offhand, it looks like too much Axis strength was forward with not enough depth and reserves for counterattack. Given the potency of Soviet artillery, this was bound to lead to this outcome.

Really at this point the Axis player can't be having any fun, I would expect him to concede.

[thomasharvey]

T138 10 14 42 This is my first try at FITE2. I did not know what to expect, and still don't going forward. I suspect there is much more fighting to do before I can get close to Berlin. As the front gets shorter the Axis can form ever more effective defense lines. Supply alone will hold me back as I found out earlier. I had to retreat back to my railhead with no Axis defenders in front of me. The mud will start on the next turn, so any rapid advance by the Red Army will have to wait.

I have had heavy losses and I do not know if that will matter yet.

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: thomasharvey

T138 10 14 42 This is my first try at FITE2. I did not know what to expect, and still don't going forward. I suspect there is much more fighting to do before I can get close to Berlin. As the front gets shorter the Axis can form ever more effective defense lines.

Not if you keep chopping up their front and wiping out big chunks of the Axis OOB like this.

Supply alone will hold me back as I found out earlier. I had to retreat back to my railhead with no Axis defenders in front of me.

It is possible to advance if you're on "Overextended". What you can't do is engage in any serious fighting in that condition. You'll want to have the units in green health ready for the pursuit and then shove them as far forward as they will go. In particular, if you're on "overextended" but the other guy is on "unsupplied", you're going to have the upper hand.

[jmlima]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious

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It is possible to advance if you're on "Overextended". What you can't do is engage in any serious fighting in that condition. You'll want to have the units in green health ready for the pursuit and then shove them as far forward as they will go. In particular, if you're on "overextended" but the other guy is on "unsupplied", you're going to have the upper hand.

As long as there's open road ahead, you can keep moving on red all the way from Vladivostok to Berlin... and in some instances, depending on the unit type and initial strenght, you can still fight any ant units on the way. One of the most... intriguing decisions by Norm.

[golden delicious]

ORIGINAL: jmlima

As long as there's open road ahead, you can keep moving on red all the way from Vladivostok to Berlin... and in some instances, depending on the unit type and initial strenght, you can still fight any ant units on the way. One of the most... intriguing decisions by Norm.

Well we're post-Norm now. A lot of scenarios now use the "overextended" setting, which means that below a certain supply level units no longer draw replacements. If you combine this with a lot of attrition through movement and especially if there's a pestilence effect, you can find that such units rapidly lose their fighting strength. However, if there's no opposition (or if the opposition is easily bamboozled into encirclements) you can carry on regardless.

[jmlima]

ORIGINAL: golden delicious
...However, if there's no opposition (or if the opposition is easily bamboozled into encirclements) you can carry on regardless.

That's my point. If there's open road, just keep going.

[thomasharvey]

T141 10/25/42 Here is a view of the Hungarian pocket being reduced.

[thomasharvey]

T141 10/25/42 Here is a view of the Italian forces also being forced into a pocket.

[thomasharvey]

T141 10/25/42 Does anyone know when or how Romania surrenders? Both Kishinev and Galati have been taken by the Russians. Still Romania fights on.

[thomasharvey]

T141 10/25/42 This view shows the German line from north of Hungary to the Baltic. It is holding well at the moment.

[thomasharvey]

T145 11/8/42 After four turns of mud there is not much change. The Germans are holding. The Romanians and Italians in the south seem on their own. The Hungarian pocket is getting smaller. The winter offensive will start on turn 147 so things should change then.