Dutch AVP Arend: Scenario 1 Exploits

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Re: Dutch AVP Arend: Scenario 1 Exploits

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BBfanboy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:56 am
WEXF wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:15 am Understood. There is no problem with buying out units that can be bought out. My reference was to the units that cannot be bought out. For those units, I do not see any way to get parts of them out of the DEI.
Try the "Pick Up Troops" option with patrol aircraft. But you might need to start it from an Aussie base that has been bought out the the KNIL command instead of the ABDA.
I did try that and it does not work for totally restricted units. There is no problem with flying totally restricted air units under KNIL command to ABDA bases. But they cannot carry totally restricted ground troops.
I looked at changing Exmouth to be under KNIL Command but that option was not available. The only other command available was Australia for a 20PP cost.
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LCDR Gorek received the latest status on the unloading of the TF that will bring his aircraft to Perth and the training of the two pilots. Both reports were excellent. Unloading of the xAK is about 50% complete with only 2200 tons remaining to be unloaded. PO Caruthers has again increased his Naval Search skill reaching 54 from 52.
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WEXF wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:42 pm
BBfanboy wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 6:56 am
WEXF wrote: Fri Jan 13, 2023 2:15 am Understood. There is no problem with buying out units that can be bought out. My reference was to the units that cannot be bought out. For those units, I do not see any way to get parts of them out of the DEI.
Try the "Pick Up Troops" option with patrol aircraft. But you might need to start it from an Aussie base that has been bought out the the KNIL command instead of the ABDA.
I did try that and it does not work for totally restricted units. There is no problem with flying totally restricted air units under KNIL command to ABDA bases. But they cannot carry totally restricted ground troops.
I looked at changing Exmouth to be under KNIL Command but that option was not available. The only other command available was Australia for a 20PP cost. ABDA.jpg
Yeah, I am remembering now that you have to already have a unit of the desired command at the base before you can buy the base out to that command. You need some strong Dutch swimmers.
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Yeah, I am remembering now that you have to already have a unit of the desired command at the base before you can buy the base out to that command. You need some strong Dutch swimmers.
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I tried a test of doing that as well but it didn't work. I had a unit that was "ABDA" in Exmouth. I was successful in changing their command back to the KNIL so there was a KNIL unit at Exmouth. But when I tried to change Exmouth to KNIL it could not be done.
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KNIL command is under ABDA so the base can't be changed to KNIL. The ABDA base should still work for KNIL units. While a base maybe initially assigned to a lower command, it appears that it can only be changed to the highest command HQs in the chain of command after that.
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RangerJoe wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 5:29 am KNIL command is under ABDA so the base can't be changed to KNIL. The ABDA base should still work for KNIL units.
It appears that a KNIL unit that cannot be bought out cannot be air transported to an ABDA command base. Here is the message I got when attempting to transport a completely restricted (white) KNIL unit to Exmouth from Soerabaja.
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Just try this, see if you can airlift that unit to another base in the DEI. If nothing else, get it to New Guinea and have it walk to Port Moresby for duty there!
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RangerJoe wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 3:59 pm Just try this, see if you can airlift that unit to another base in the DEI. If nothing else, get it to New Guinea and have it walk to Port Moresby for duty there!
I could certainly airlift the unit to any KNIL Base but I really don't want to just move it to another location where it will be destroyed without my being able to extract a cadre. Getting a cadre to Australia to build up support and engineering for defense of Australia was the goal. If the unit got to Port Moresby it would still be KNIL totally restricted and even with PM being an Australian base, it could not be air transported.
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Results of the repair process at Perth today were pretty much as expected.
Arend did not reduce any of the damage to her flotation but did received 26 repair points. Arend had been at 4(9%). Considering Perth can only deliver 30 RP, results were pretty good.
The 2 xAKL cargo ships were part of the TF that arrived from Port Hedland with DD Evertsen.
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DD Evertsen, repairing at "readiness" is still at 3-0-2 but had received 46 repair points and is very close to reducing one of the system damage. A mistake by command (ME) was that I did not remember that there was a AD at Perth. The AD won't be able to reduce the major damage but will help with the systems.
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O23 had another excellent day as she is now at 10-16-6 having repaired 8 points of system damage. If I did the numbers right she received 419 repair points this turn.
S-39 is at 0-0-1 and received 41 repair points this turn. She was at 4(8%). This turn the final major engine damage should easily be repaired by the AR and hopefully S-39 will be ready to return to action.
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As the next day of repairs gets on the way the only change is that DD Evertsen is under "Repair Ship" mode. It is hoped that the AR will no longer be needed for S-39 and that the AR can then be used to handle the major damage on Evertsen.
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If no ship is assigned to the AR, then any ship in Pier side repair mode that needs the AR's help will receive it up to the AR's ability but this should also allow the AD to help as well. Sometimes, a ship will not need a full turn repairing with the help of the AR, this allows the AR to assist more than one ship.
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RangerJoe wrote: Sat Jan 14, 2023 6:00 pm If no ship is assigned to the AR, then any ship in Pier side repair mode that needs the AR's help will receive it up to the AR's ability but this should also allow the AD to help as well. Sometimes, a ship will not need a full turn repairing with the help of the AR, this allows the AR to assist more than one ship.
I find it really interesting that there is no way in WITP-AE to actually assign a particular ship to any specific repair ship. The repair manager does it all. It is part of the fun of this game to try and predict what the repair manager will do.
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Well, if there is major flood damage that is greater than 5 and you assign it to a repair ship, the only type that can and will help is a floating dry dock! I think that it is better to let the repair manager handle all of the details while you assign the type of repair mode and the priority.
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Some good news was received from Exmouth. Six of the PT Boats had been fully repaired. TM-8, 9, 10 and 12 have been formed into a TF and will be assigned a mission at one of the northern Australia bases. The commander of TM-8 has been assigned the role of TF commander as he has the best numbers of the 4 officers in the TF. TM-7 is fully ready and awaiting orders. TM-5 is fully repaired but needs to reload its torpedo tubes. Fortunately, there is an AGP in port that can assist in rearming TM-5.
The Dutch PT Boats are different than the US Navy's boats as they are equipped with only 2 torpedo tubes instead of 4 (notice the total number of torpedoes in the TF are 8).
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LCDR Goreck was enjoying another beer at the club when he heard some more scuttlebutt about another TF carrying almost 10,000 tons of resources from Port Hedland. The TF was currently at Carnarvon and command was about to decide where the cargo would be unloaded. TF 350 contained the Dutch DD Piet Hein with some minor damage, British KV Jasmine and 8 xAKL cargo ships, 3 had made it out of the Philippines and 5 Dutch ships.
TF 350 could unload at Carnarvon P1(0) or it could continue to Geraldton P2(1) or head to Perth. The decision was made to head for Geraldton where the rail connection would allow the resources to make it inland easier than trying to use the road system through Carnarvon. The trip would take 2-3 days.
Goerk was a bit concerned about the damage to the DD. Would repairs take place at Geraldton or Perth or maybe not at all?
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As the orders for 2May are being written news arrived on the status of TF236. Another 500 tons of supplies had been unloaded leaving only 1700 remaining. In about 3-4 days the TF will be ready to load 700 squadron for the trip to Perth. PO Caruthers continued to improve his NavS skill reaching 56 from his previous 54. All good news!
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At the morning briefing on 2May a report was given on a bombardment attack on Palembang. The base was hit by three Mogami Class heavy cruisers and four destroyers. Damage was significant. Combat reports and actual damage were inconsistent especially with regard to damage to the oil fields and refinery. Some fires remain but most have been extinguished.
Large amounts of oil, fuel, resources and supply remain at the base which is occupied by a large force of Dutch defenders.
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The attack could be viewed as a mistake for the Japanese command as they caused 8 oil and 51 refinery damage that will need to be repaired if they want to use the facilities after the base falls.
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Yes, that bombardment was a mistake. Do NOT repair the damage. However, have the O19 and/or the O20 lay minefields not at Palembang but at the mouth of the river leaving the Palembang hex.

Laying minefields with your American subs along the Luzon coast is also a good idea, combine that with your PT Boats and any surviving MTBs from Hong Kong making raids during periods of low moonlight and/or bad weather is also a good idea. Let the Japanese civilian ships play bumper ships . . .
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The news from Palembang worried everyone at Perth but reports of 2 submarine contacts with large Japanese ships were even more concerning. BB Nagato and CL Isuzu together with 5 destroyers were spotted and attacked about 500 miles east of Soerabaja. The attacks were unsuccessful and neither of the Dutch subs were damaged. The enemy was getting closer!
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The report on repairs for the 4 ships are in and some are as expected and some are a bit of a surprise.
AVP Arend reduced major flotation damage from 47>46 after receiving 26 repair points from the Perth SY3. She now has 15(36%)=41.7 and is likely to reduce damage from 46>45 today. All completely as expected.
SS O23 reduced systems damage from 10>4 and eliminated the 1 non-major engine damage. O23 received 391 repair points at Pier Side. As O23 was set at "critical", these results are excellent. O23 is now at 6(10%)=60.
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