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RE: Lunacy or Shrewdness?

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Przemcio,

Well you have your view of NikMod and I have mine. Mine is that in December of 1941 any combat result in which Japanese planes which actually make it through the CAP and attack enemy surface combatants hit only 20% of the time the Allies do is hosed. This is why I won't play NikMod. From some tests I've run it seems that the number of leakers IS higher but the extra disruption due to AAA completely hobbles the Japanese ability to get a historic strike rate. You are welcome to NikMod but I think he has unintentionally messed up the modelling of strikes against surface shipping. I'll note that the surface combat TF etc you formed were irrelevant to our game and your retelling misses many crucial points. In short under NikMod you got just over 100 planes through my CAP and they scored about 35 hits. I got 160+ through your CAP and scored 7 hits. With experienced pilots with no fatigue etc that sort of strike results is pretty hosed. In addition no planes were distracted by your surface TF.

As to the damage... Only 3 out of 8 CVs in my TF were rendered unable to carry out flight ops. The other 5 were still in the fight so it wasn't quite as catastrophic as you believe.

As to sending the password. Unfortunately I am using the same password for this game so I don't think I'll be sharing it until this game is over and to be honest I think you could have communicated all of this in a PM without coming on here and getting into labelling me etc. I think that was very poor form to be honest.

In real life I'm a psychiatrist and it really is interesting to see the pathology evinced in what some people say/are driven to say here. Instead of any maturity being shown in a live and let live attitude we have people insisting their version of "reality" is what should be implemented and complaining when others choose not to join them in their world. If it isn't that then we see a modern-day version of chest-beating to fulfill egodystonic needs.

I'll continue the AAR until the end of January as I have previously undertaken to do and then stop it. I can enjoy the game just fine without having every tom, dick and harry decide he has to vent his personal issues by publicly engaging in labelling and ego-driven commentary.

UM , at the risk of being analysed [;)], aren't you getting a bit over defensive about one comment? Personally i see your game as being one of the fasted and best planned japanese offensives ever seen. I'm thoroughly enjoying the read, especially your thoughts behind your actions and the detailed explanations. Please dont stop the AAR at the end of Jan as its about to get very exciting in india about then [&o]. Maybe I should have posted a few more comments as moral support ( you don't need any advice/critisism as far as i can see) and I also know how much time it takes to write an AAR and your posts are very very detailed , thank you.

As i've just dipped my little toe into the water as playign japan it's interesting to see whats possible in stock and compare that to NikMod, my personal preferance is NikMod for many reasons, but horses for courses is my attitude. This is the game as designed being played extremely competantly and it's a darn good read.

Please do re-consider continuing .. I'd hate to be your opponent right now [:D][:D][:D].

sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit :)
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RE: Lunacy or Shrewdness?

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/25/42

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Sub attack at 114,63

Japanese Ships
SS RO-63

Allied Ships
AK San Rafael, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Flusser
DD Reid

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Sub attack at 116,63

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
AK Admiral Wood, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Aylwin

It tuned out later that 30 F4s went down with a ship today so I am presuming San Rafael was carrying these planes. Trey must be getting really annoyed at this sub cordon at the moment. It really is taking a fair old toll of his shipping.

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-49 Helen x 109

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 42

I've moved the forces from Manila to Rangoon and Singapore. I've decided on a very simple split whereby the Ki-21s will attack Manila while the Ki-48s and Ki-49s will hit Rangoon. I hope this will deceive Trey into thinking I'm going for one or other of these.... I have also frankly told him I'm coming for India next. I'm sure he has figured that out yet but I am banking on him not expecting a frank admission from me and assuming that my admission means that I plan an operation at either Singapore or Manila prior to India.

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Day Air attack on Bulla , at 40,75


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 10


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on Sorong , at 42,74


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 10


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 37,26


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 9


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 77th Chinese Corps, at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 26
Ki-30 Ann x 24
Ki-51 Sonia x 34
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Now that Hengchow is completely isolated I will begin hitting some of the infantry there. Once my forces recover disruption and fatigue they will attack. I expect this to be a tough battle even though Allied forces will be out of supply as I am really committing minimal forces to this attack.

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
Ki-27 Nate x 7

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 2
P-40E Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Johnston Island , at 102,74


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 29
LB-30 Liberator x 16


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
161 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17

There are over 100 FLaK guns on Johnson Island now and today its minefields passed the 3,000 mine threshold. Over the past 2 days of attacks 4 allied four-engined bombers were lost. This is sufficient to warrant my continued tenure at Johnson.

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Day Air attack on TF at 67,129


Allied aircraft
Hudson I x 11
B-17E Fortress x 6


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AV Kamikawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire


Ah, interesting. B-17s are basing out of New Zealand. Now that I have gotten into range of Auckland under the guise of chasing his transports I will launch recon flights over Auckland from several of my AVs... I would have done this with a Glen-equipped submarine but I feel that making it seem like I am conducting opportunistic recon because I'm "passing by" will do less to alert Trey to my interest in Auckland than a specific Glen mission. I would gladly trade an AV for this. As it happens Kamikawa Maru isn't badly injured at all.

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Day Air attack on TF at 64,126

Japanese aircraft
E7K2 Alf x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AP Wharton, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E7K2 Alf bombing at 2000 feet
4 x E7K2 Alf bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 95,62

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 24
PC Ch 21
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Takuna Maru #6
PC Shonon Maru #11
PC Shonon Maru #10
PC Shonon Maru #3
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC Kyo Maru #6
PC Fumi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Argonaut, hits 3

Again with SS Argonaut... I was surprised to see it still around Midway. I attacked it several times before and assumed I damaged it sufficiently to force it back into harbour for repair.

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Sub attack near Muntok at 21,55

Japanese Ships
AK Kinugawa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS KXV

There is still limited submarine activity in the DEI. I have two ASW TFs in the area and have almost finished "buying" the necessary floatplane squadrons to establish my barrier patrols at Banjarmasin/Soerabaja and Mendano/Mindanao. 2 x Alf Daitai will be committed to each side of these barriers and will be backed up by an ASW TF comprising 10 x PCs. This should nicely attrit any submarines coming from Australia. Submarines operating out of India will remain a problem for a few months but diverting resources to deal with them at this point in time would be inefficient as I have a requirement for further nodal forces at Noumea, midway and Tokyo and don't have the spare auxiliaries to easily form a third barrier patrol, especially one at such high risk of air attack from Singapore. When India falls the submarine threat through the Sumatra/Malaysian channel will cease.

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Ground combat at 23,47

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5297 troops, 180 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 55

Defending force 4242 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 4


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 45,35

Allied Shock attack

Attacking force 96011 troops, 471 guns, 68 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 2794

Defending force 51730 troops, 592 guns, 4 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 891

Allied max assault: 4436 - adjusted assault: 423

Japanese max defense: 906 - adjusted defense: 1613

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
906 casualties reported
Guns lost 23
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
5632 casualties reported
Guns lost 100
Vehicles lost 8


Trey must be getting desperate. I interpret this Shock Attack in the area north of Hengchow as being an attempt to shake these 15 units free of my Zones of Control so that he can retreat them towards Chungking for a final stand there. Unfortunately this attempt won't succeed as I prepared for it over the last few days by bringing more infantry into action in this area.

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Ground combat at 43,33

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 3295 troops, 35 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 90

Defending force 1830 troops, 0 guns, 127 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 72

Allied max assault: 75 - adjusted assault: 6

Japanese max defense: 67 - adjusted defense: 34

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Allied ground losses:
195 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

And again.

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Ground combat at Kweiyang

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 8450 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 255

Defending force 10715 troops, 59 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 232

Allied max assault: 248 - adjusted assault: 38

Japanese max defense: 219 - adjusted defense: 327

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
151 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

A Chinese Corps attacks my forces at Kweiyang. Unfortunately for the Chinese the Naval Guard Unit, NLF and 5 x Parachute units prove too strong for it. Kweiyang holds and should hold for some time to come.


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Ground combat at Taung Gyi

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 6986 troops, 41 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 188

Defending force 3644 troops, 0 guns, 248 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 152

Allied max assault: 150 - adjusted assault: 98

Japanese max defense: 143 - adjusted defense: 423

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
330 casualties reported
Guns lost 14



Recon of Pearl shows 87 ships in harbour and a minimum of 14 ground units in the base. I have to estimate that there are at least 3 divisions there by now. That's enough to have Trey think of counter-attacks and, worryingly, if I assume the presence of 4 divisions + tanks etc with half of the total AV committed to the Johnson attack it looks as though I would require a minimum of 500 AV to hold Johnson. Fortunately I will have just short of 350 AV there by month's end and between the CDs, AAA and mines I think that will hurt his eventual attack... I am more and more convinced he is going for Johnson and so have been diverting reinforcements from Christmas island to Johnson. Christmas Island is weak but Xmas Island's loss has definitely been Johnson's gain.
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RE: Lunacy or Shrewdness?

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I've moved the forces from Manila to Rangoon and Singapore. I've decided on a very simple split whereby the Ki-21s will attack Manila while the Ki-48s and Ki-49s will hit Rangoon. I hope this will deceive Trey into thinking I'm going for one or other of these.... I have also frankly told him I'm coming for India next. I'm sure he has figured that out yet but I am banking on him not expecting a frank admission from me and assuming that my admission means that I plan an operation at either Singapore or Manila prior to India.

Since you stormed Manila last turn (and collected an impressive bag of Allied men and guns) I assume that you mean the Ki-21's will hit Singapore, and an operation might be aimed at Rangoon. (Any Freudian significance here?)
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RE: Lunacy or Shrewdness?

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LOL! That's what you get for posting an AAR at half two in the morning ;). Yes, the Ki-21s are hitting Singapore and my intention is to hint at an effort against Rangoon. 18th Division is about 5 days away from being able to mount an attack on Rangoon so when that gets online I think I will mount some more deliberate attacks and either:
a) gain 1:1 and actually try to take the place or

b) gain 0:1 and move to try and take Taung Giyi so that I can free my forces in Burma for the Indian operation.
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RE: Lunacy or Shrewdness?

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/26/42

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TF 7 encounters mine field at Manila (43,52)

Japanese Ships
PG Uji
AP Nikki Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

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ASW attack at 95,62

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 24
PC Ch 21
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Takuna Maru #6
PC Shonon Maru #11
PC Shonon Maru #10

Allied Ships
SS Argonaut, hits 2, heavy damage

Argonaut must have been badly damaged in the previous attacks because it proves unable to outmanoeuvre the PCs and both hits are direct hull detonations causing extensive flooding and damage. In the evening it is confirmed that SS Argonaut has been sunk.

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ASW attack at 116,63

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
DD Aylwin

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ASW attack at 21,58

Japanese Ships
APD APD-46

Allied Ships
SS KXVII

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ASW attack at 116,63

Japanese Ships
SS I-17, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Aylwin

As Pearl is now mounting some ASW patrols into my sub cordon I am starting to shuffle the submarines around to maintain coverage whilst also not occupying the same areas as his ASW patrols.


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TF 81 encounters mine field at Manila (43,52)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.11
AP Tientsin Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire


Hmm, only 40 mines left and yet two of my APs hit them while docking in Manila. I think this bodes well for the 3000+mines at Johnson and the slightly smaller number at Palmyra.

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Day Air attack on Kweiyang , at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-27 Nate x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48 Lily x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 113

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 26
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 65

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 50
Ki-21 Sally x 356
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed, 21 damaged
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IF: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
322 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
Vehicles lost 4

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 73

Singapore will soon be closed and the process of attriting Rangoon has also begun.

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Day Air attack on Bulla , at 40,75


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 8


No Allied losses

Resources hits 1

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 2

My AAA regiment arrived overnight and seems to have done the trick inblunting the B-17 squadron's attacks. It won't be decisive but, as always, my goal is to avoid allowing the enemy to attrit my naval and airpower with his airpower but, instead, trade Japanese land power for enemy airpower.

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Day Air attack on Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
Ki-27 Nate x 3

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 2 damaged


While the Nates are earning experience here the fact that I don't have a land supply route into Kweiyang yet makes supply of the essence and I have decided that the comat power of the Nates is simply not worth the amount of supply they are burning. They are pulled out to divebomb Hengchow.

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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 37,26


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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Day Air attack on 77th Chinese Corps, at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 41
Ki-30 Ann x 18
Ki-51 Sonia x 25
Ki-15 Babs x 2

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on Johnston Island , at 102,74


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 24
LB-30 Liberator x 15


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
197 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Well, enemy bomber damage is certainly climbing and bomb hits on Johnson Island are falling. This is an interesting result as it confirms that the game model returns results consistent with Lanchester's law. Given that most people's complaints of the bloodiness and one-sidedness of the air to air combat model have to do with results when large numbers of planes clash, precisely the result under which force disparity would be most greatly magnified by Lanchester's law, it seems obvious that the problem probably lies in the failure to model the fact that in aerial combat one doesn't tend to get "entire force on entire force" combats ( which are assumed in most variants of the Lanchester model) but, instead, get multiple small components of each force facing off with some of these components enjoying massive numerical superiority vis a vis their opponents, others breaking even and others being outnumbered even if they enjoy a marked numerical superiority overall. This being so the fact that the various mods which deal with A2A combat etc fail to either deal with it or introduce major failures in other parts of the air combat model is no surprise. They haven't gotten to the root cause of the error in modelling and therefore in adjusting game factors to bring the model in A2A combat more into line with reality they are throwing all other aspects of the aerial model out of balance ( this is why these mods require house rules for FLaK, bombing altitudes etc etc).

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ASW attack at 116,63

Japanese Ships
SS I-17

Allied Ships
DD Aylwin

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ASW attack at 120,68

Japanese Ships
SS I-10

Allied Ships
DMS Perry
DMS Lamberton


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Ground combat at 45,31

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20178 troops, 251 guns, 6 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 445

Defending force 15193 troops, 71 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 484

Japanese max assault: 426 - adjusted assault: 338

Allied max defense: 407 - adjusted defense: 29

Japanese assault odds: 11 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
445 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

Cut off Chinese units... All of these cut off Chinese units on the southern front will take forever to attrit but so long as they can be pinned in place by minimal forces I can bypass them and move on Chungking without falling behind schedule.

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Ground combat at 48,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 101866 troops, 1162 guns, 10 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1920

Defending force 28607 troops, 186 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 673

Japanese max assault: 1799 - adjusted assault: 1251

Allied max defense: 663 - adjusted defense: 79

Japanese assault odds: 15 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
1131 casualties reported
Guns lost 39

Allied ground losses:
1539 casualties reported
Guns lost 13


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Ground combat at Rangoon

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 47095 troops, 260 guns, 10 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 659

Defending force 28326 troops, 236 guns, 273 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 628



Allied ground losses:
64 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at 23,47

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10418 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 54

Defending force 4223 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 5

Japanese max assault: 45 - adjusted assault: 45

Allied max defense: 3 - adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1


Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported

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Ground combat at 42,37

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7532 troops, 50 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 963

Defending force 5012 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 45

Allied max assault: 230 - adjusted assault: 115

Japanese max defense: 44 - adjusted defense: 29

Allied assault odds: 3 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported


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RE: Lunacy or Shrewdness?

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Rob,

Well the kink is that it isn't a single comment. It is the last in a long line of people who seem to have a problem with anyone playing a game by rules OTHER than their own highly subjective ( and occasionally questionable) ones and feel some sort of ego-dystonic NEED to post about it. I don't mind people questioning my plans or operations and critiquing them. I mean after Feinder point out the Shock Attack+ Pursue issue which I hadn't previously thought about Trey and I agreed on a house rule and I gave up a strategically decisive position in order to maintain fairness BUT I do have an issue with people labelling me as "gamey" and stating that, in effect, I'm cheating so long as I don't follow their myriad of, often, mutually exclusive, subjective "house rules". I don't cheat, I won't cheat and having to put up with various "people" ( in my mind I use a different word [:D] ) belittling my integrity and saying I am, in effect, cheating is not compatible with me having an enjoyable game.

When faced with choosing between continuing a game I am losing enjoyment of because of these denigratory and unwarranted comments or simply halting the AAR my choice is clear. If nothing else my training has certainly given me the ability to evaluate issues emotionlessly and make whatever decision delivers the required result. Given that background droping the AAR and continuing the game is the way to go.


Trey is very nice and a capable opponent and I think that given what he is facing he is doing well. I, personally, think that the only mistake he has made is in China where he allowed the phasing of my offensives to dislocate his defence to an unfortunate degree. Elsewhere he has avoided dispersal and concentrated his forces on defending that which must be defended at the expense of that which is optional. I, personally, don't buy that abandoning Palembang was an issue. Sure it fell into my hands a week or so sooner than it otherwise would have BUT my strategy of using the battleline to eliminate engineers at the various oil-producing centres before capturing them has paid immense dividends in terms of reducing damage to oil and resources. I'm already at about 2400 oil and only about 200 oil points are damaged throughout the entire DEI. So I don't think that the situation at Palembang would be markedly different had he stayed to fight there. I mean once I decided it was necessary I committed the battleline to 4 or 5 bombardment runs at Manila so does anyone really think I would have shirked from suffering damage to a couple of CAs by Singaporean airpower in order to take Palembang with little loss to its production?

Since I'm beginning to wind this up ( although I may continue posting verbatim combat reports and a monthly or bi-weekly SHORT round-up... i haven't decided yet) I will post my updated Strategic Plan ( updated with the lessons learned in my first 6 weeks of WiTP PBEM... these were substantial lessons and mainly impact my timeline as I now understand operations will take longer to conclude than initially foreseen). I'd be happy to discuss any questions or criticisms anyone has of my plan to fulfill my National Policy Objectives but amn't interested in being told they are gamey and don't conform to person A or person B's self-imposed and subjective view of reality. I don't wish to cause offence by being so blunt but it seems that hinting at things doesn't seem to communicate things sufficiently here.



National Policy Objectives:

1. Seizure of oil, resources and HI ( in that order).

2. Minimising total force committment over time and avoiding large-scale attritional combat.

3. Fighting on as few fronts as possible.

4. Minimise opportunities for enemy land-based bombers to attrit Japanese men and material.

5. Preparation for Phase V and VI operations from 7th December 1941.



1. Seizure of Oil, Resources and HI.
In order to maximise Oil, Resource and HI holdings it will prove necessary to capture the DEI as quickly as possible. If strategically advisable India, China, the Soviet Union and Austrlai should also be taken ( in that order of importance ) and their oil, industry and resources turned to our requirements. Only following the capture of the DEI and India will any thought be given to expanding HI production in the Home Islands to match what my oil facilities can support.



2. Minimising total force commitment over time and avoiding large-scale attritional combat.
Every effort will be made to minimise the enemy's ability to engage in attritional combat by concentrating all available forces on no more than 1 or 2 critical objectives during each phase of the initial expansion. While the rate of losses will be high during these decisive battles it is planned that over the first two years of war total losses will actually be lower than if a slower, more methodical offensive had been undertaken. I expect that the majority of Japanese losses in the first two years will occur in the first 9 months with the vast majority of even those losses being in the first 4 months. After those 9 months Japan will have accomplished most of its critical objectives and go over onto the strategic defensive (note this does not preclude operationally decisive and strategically influential attacks which may be given the appearance of attempts at strategically decisive actions) on all fronts except the Australian and Soviet fronts.



3. One Front War.
By knocking China and India out of the war by May 1942 it will prove possible to free the required resources to divest myself of the Soviet and Australian threats by the middle of 1943. High priority will be given to removing the threat from Pearl Harbour in the latter half of 1942 in order to prevent an American attritional strategy from drawing resources away from the elimination of the Soviet and Australian threats. Furthermore by focussing Japanese/American combat operations into one very small geographical area Japanese forces will be able to concentrate their resources in such a manner as to better withstand American attritional ploys. So, even within the One Front War doctrine it will prove necessary to shape the conflict such that American operations are encouraged to occur within one small area instead of spread out over a wide front.


4. Minimising enemy LBA influence.
By limiting the number of airbases from which American bombers can stage attacks on my forces I allow my smaller but high-quality forces to more adequately defend themselves. Furthermore the fewer airbases enemy bombers stage from the more overcrowded they will be and the more easily I can close them/cause significant losses on the ground.



Overall Strategic Plan:

Phase 1. 7th December 1941 to 1st March 1942.
Capture of DEI, Phillipines, Malaysia, Burma, China and "spokes" within the American Pacific hegemony.

Dutch East Indies.
DEI will be captured by multiple invasion TFs landing Brigade-sized forces throughout the DEI. Multipled Base Forces will also debark and set up air operations as soon as possible. Priority targets are Soerabaja and Kendari. Soerabaja is a priority in order to destroy the many ships bases there and also because taking it early will tend to dislocate the Javan defence plans. Kendari will be taken in order to facilitate the basing of naval bombers tasked with destroying any ships fleeing to Australia from either DEI or Phillipines.


Philipinnes: Every effort will be made to take the Phillipines by mid-January. With two weeks for rest and recuperation and a sailing time of roughly two weeks I should be able to invade Southern India on or about Valentine's day 1942.


Malaysia.
Malaysia will be attacked by 3 divisions of troops. 2 divisions will land at Songkhia while the Imperial Guards Division will move overland to support. Every effort will be made to trap enemy forces outside of Singapore but, in essence, the Malaysian operation is merely a holding action. Once the enemy has withdrawn to Singapore one division, 2 engineer regiments and several artillery and construction Bns will be left to garrison Johore Bahru while the Imperial Guards and the 2nd initial division will redeploy to the Phillipines and Burma as required.


Burma.
Burma is being attacked by only 2 divisions and 4 tank regiments. I suspect the Tank Regiments will be my most important units in Burma and I expect to be able to push the defenders onto the trails leading to India quite easily. Once Rangoon falls the divisions in Burma will begin prepping for India. Should my forces run into trouble in Burma they will be reinforced by the aforementioned division from Malaysia.


China:
A la Bagration careful phasing of attacks will attempt to draw forces firstly north-eastward and then eastward, denuding the Southern and Eastern flanks. Once enemy forces have been drawn to Chungking and Hengchow areas the forces from Canton will strike northward aided by airdrops onto targets of opportunity ( ideally Kunming or Yunan), preventing these forces from retreating into Chungking and aiding its defence. As the northern and southern pockets are reduced pressure will be brought to bear on Chungking with a view to securing its collapse before the units eliminated in the pockets can respawn.


Pacific:
Efforts will be made to secure the Trul-Noumea spoke, the Kwajalein-Pago-Pago spoke and the Saipan-Midway spoke. Commerce Raiding forces centred around all available AVs, 5 to 6 CL-led DD TFs and all but one CS will form a picket-line operating out of Noumea. The CVE-KB which will initially support operations against Pago-Pago etc will also aid with the creation of this picket line.

My submarine effort will be aimed at creating a cordon 240 to 360 miles from Pearl Harbour. Every effort will be made to make the cordon 120 miles wide and extend sufficiently far north and south that any attempt to go around will bring the enemy convoys within range of land-based naval bombers operating out of Palmyra and Midway.

Palmyra will be mined in the first few days after which every effort will be made to create a tempting trap for American forces at Johnson Island. All minelayers will be tasked to this mission as will AAA and CD units. The aim is not to hold Johnson but to create a sufficient speedbump that when the Americans take advantage of my committment of KB to another theatre during Phase 2 Operations they will be unable to gather sufficient momentum to retake half the Pacific.



Planned Timeline:
DEI: It is planned to take the DEI by the middle of January. Units will then load onto transports and make for Noumea preparatory to tightening the cordon around Australia.

Malaysia and Burma: All of Malaysia excepting Singapore should fall by the beginning of January. Singapore itself will only be attacked after India falls. If the war in China goes well then I will be able to divert units from China to Malaysia and Burma and complete the conquest of these areas without having to commit any further Southern Area Army forces. This would be beneficial as it will allow my ground units to rest and recuperate for the invasion of Pearl Harbour and will allow me to invade there 1 month earlier than would otherwise be possible.

China: I expect to have all of China excepting Chungking under my control by the end of February. Chungking should fall by the end of March and with the diversion of some forces to Burma and Malaysia ( requiring approximately 3 months for travel to these regions, decisive action and travel back to China) the timetable for the invasion of the Soviet Union at the beginning of August or September should be preserved.

Pacific: With all essential Phase I bases taken by the end of December actions until the end of the invasion of India will concentrate on strengthening the defences of these bases, particularly Johnson, Midway and Palmyra ( in that order).




Phase II. 1st March 1942 to 1st June 1942

DEI: Mopping up operations by a few SNLF units will occur in order to tidy up the DEI and demonstrations made against Northern Australia with a view to drawing enemy forces northward in preparation for Phase III.


Malaysia: Diversion of some resources from the China Area Army will be tolerated in order to clear Malaysia and Burma without tying up the more valuable Southern Area Army divisions.


India: From January 1942 operations will take place to shape conditions in the Indian theatre to my favour. Akyab and Andaman will be taken by paratroops. Base Forces will be flown in and recon and fighters will be based there to bolster the maskirovka of an Eastern Indian invasion. While the Eastern portion of India is being aggressively reconned in depth 1 to 2 recon runs will be made to Trincomalee. If it is weakly held then paraborne invasions basing out of Andaman will occur in mid-February. If strongly held paratroopists will be held in reserve until amphibious assault captures Trincomalee and they can be based out of it to conduct vertical envelopments into the enemy rear.

Once Trincomalee is taken a minor amphibious invasion of Manargudi, Madras or Yanam will be undertaken in order to draw forces southward and eastward while the majority of my forces move around the western edge of Ceylon and, under cover of KB make for Karachi. It is intended that by conducting easily penetrable maskirovka operations in eastern India before landing at Ceylon and the west Allied forces will believe they have penetrated my maskirovka and will not look beyond the initial misdirection at the second layer of misdirection underlying it. It is, as you can see, a variant of the "big lie" doctrine.

With Karachi taken the two provisional tank divisions committed to this operation will exploit southward and eastward with the intention of meeting any Allied counter-offensive in the region of Bombay and Delhi. If Karachi, for whatever reason, is not a feasible target then Bombay would serve equally as well, splitting the enemy forces in two and enabling my forces to concentrate overwhelming force on each sector, independently, whilst committing blocking forces to the others. It is estimated that if Manila falls on 14th January troops will be in position to land in southern India on 14th February with the landings in Karachi scheduled for 28th February. It is estimated that notwithstanding any major disasters the ground offensive in India should reach a succesful conclusion by 1st June 1942.


Soviet Union: Maskirovka operations will occur in this area at this time.


Pacific: Under cover of the CVE-Butai and CS-operated Rufes the Independent Regiments and Brigades will land in New Zealand, completing the isolation of Australia. As Dunedin is the least defended base and farthest from Noumea my plan is to invade there. As my transports leave Noumea some fast CS TFs will race into range of the New Zealand bases and launch recon of all four bases. It will completely tip my hand but I estimate that if the recon precedes the landings by no more than 3 or 4 days it will be impossible for the Allies to re-adjust their forces in time to defeat the landings. The only exception would be surface TFs from Australia but stripping the 2 x BBs and 2 x CAs from the KB prior to its committment to India should be sufficient to protect the landing beaches against whatever the Australian and British navies throw at them. Obviously if my reconnaissance flights show Dunedin to be heavily defended I may divert. If forced to divert I would prefer to divert to Auckland but when push comes to shove while this will be a recon-push operation on the strategic level at the operational level it will be recon-pull.

With the landings at Karachi/Bombay completed KB will transfer to the Central Pacific with a view to providing long-range cover for the invasion of New Zealand and, later, aiding with the isolation of the Hawaiian Islands.



Phase III: 1st June 1942 to 1st September 1942.


Soviet Union: With the crushing of resistance in China, Malaysia and Burma all Japanese forces in the Chinese and Korean theatres will be tasked with moving into their jumping off areas for the invasion of the Soviet Union.


Northern Australia: As my ground units from the invasion of India move towards the Pacific theatre of operations they will conduct drive-by landings to take Northern Australia away from the Australian defenders. It is my fervent hope that my demonstrations during Phase II will have drawn significant Australian forces into Darwin, Derby and Wyndham where I can trap them against the sea and eliminate them setting the stage for Phase V operations.


Pacific: With New Zealand taken operations will be mounted to clear enemy forces from the last island bases behind my lines they currently occupy. As this occurs my units will edge towards jumping off positions for the invasion of the Hawaiian Islands.

With Johnson, Laysan and Palmyra/Christmas Island either fully developed or recaptured air operations against Hawaii will increase in tempo and strength with a view to gaining sufficient intel to determine where my initial landings will take place and shaping the theatre of operations such that my shipping will be able to survive to land troops at the target. These operations cannot occur prior to August 1942 as the Oscar I simply doesn't have the ability to provide the necessary protection against allied bombers conducting anti-base operations. With the advent of the Tojo and Tony this problem should disappear. This is why I have upped the research on these planes to 300 each and am conducting all operations with a view to having 300 of each, with fully qualified pilots, available for operation on 1st August 1942.



Phase IV: 1st September 1942 to 1st January 1943.


Soviet Union: Continuation of the ground war in the Soviet Union. The elimination of Soviet resistance in order to secure my Western front in 1944 and 1945 will continue. The time this takes and the casualties taken during this operation are irrelevant so long as the Soviet threat is removed and yet another source of attritional loss is removed.


Pacific: As attrition takes its toll at Pearl Harbour an invasion will be attempted. Every effort will be made to allow American ground forces to ship from the West Coast to Pearl Harbour. If I cannot gain air supremacy any invasion is doomed and if I gain air supremacy the more troops the Americans have at Pearl the more quickly they will run out of supply and the more will fall into my POW camps when I take Pearl. So, in the Hawaiian Theatre enemy ground force strength is, essentially, irrelevant and will only determine how long after I gain aerial supremacy I must wait before invading Pearl Harbour.


Australia and Alaska: Small-scale "shaping" invasions of these areas will be attempted as opportunities arise and forces are available. The aim will not be to achieve decisive battle but merely to "shape" these theatres favourably for Phase V.



Phase V: 1st January 1943 to 1st January 1944.

Actions during this stage will greatly depend on how well operations in the Soviet Union proceed. If they proceed at a goodly pace I will commit the requisite forces to knock Australia out of the war and then mass everything in the east preparatory to receiving the inevitable Allied counter-attack in mid-43. So by 1st January 1944 my ideal position would be to hold everything except CONUSA. I expect, however, that Perth or even all of southern Australia will still be holding out as it will simply prove uneconomical to invade it.


Phase VI: 1st January 1944 to 1946.

Perhaps the phase I am most looking forward to. I cannot wait to get kamikazes and send them against enemy shipping. I am also looking forward to conducting large-scale commerce-raiding and submarine operations again in an operationally decisive and strategically influential manner.



Addendum:

The basics of the above were sketched out prior to beginning the game based on my reading of several AARs and the understanding they gave me of the strategic situation. I had sketched out Phases I and II as I needed to do so to ensure my tactical and operational decisions always served my strategic goals, foregoing tactical and operational victories if they failed to do so. Today on the 28th April 2006 I sketched out Phases III through VI. I have kept the information in Phase I regarding the timetable in Manila as, though it proved erroneous, it was an accurate reflection of my understanding of the possible at that time and changing it would have left my plan looking as though it had all worked out exactly as I wished when that is most assuredly not the case. I feel that to fail to convey the Allied impact on my plans would be to do Trey a disservice and I don't wish to do that.


Production:
My production plan has, whilst going against almost all advice I've read on the forum, been optimised for maximising my "throw weight" of kamikazes in 1944. Essentially I am expanding my ship production to ruinous levels ( approximately 2250 naval shipyard points) and am accelerating my most distant CVs and CVLs in favour of my more recent CVs and CVLs in order to mass the maximum number of carriers in mid-43 and early-44 at the expense of my carrier strength in 1942. The reason for this was that when I analysed the most efficient way to get the most carriers by early-44 I realised that accelerating carriers which were between Durability x 10 and Durability x 30 days away cost only Durability x 1 for each day earlier they would arrive whilst accelerating carriers which were within Durability x 10 days of arrival cost Durability x 3 for each day.

So, I could accelerate 3 carriers which were more than Durability x 10 days from commissioning for the same cost as accelerating a single carrier which was less than Durability x 10 days from commissioning. As the carriers which are accelerated move to less than Durability x 10 from commissioning the cost of acceleration will triple but with some of the earlier carriers already produced and a small naval shipyard pool built up I should be able to sustain their acceleration. I have examined the figures and it is my expectation that I can have almost all Japanese CVs, CVLs and CVEs in operation by July 1943. This is the time period in which I foresee a major American effort to retake Pearl Harbour. It is my intention to, if necessary, sacrifice the entirety of the Japanese carrier fleet in one climactic battle at that time accepting the loss of all my CVs, CVLs and CVEs in order to secure the failure of that invasion and destroy as many American CVs and invasion transports as possible.


With my naval shipyards having built the necessary carriers by mid-43 I will then shut them down and use the 180,000 HI per month thus freed up to produce engines for the massive number of kamikazes which will be required to attrit Allied invasions in 1944 and 1945. I expect to be able to produce an additional 2,000 twin-engined kamikazes per month ( 108,000 HI per month) whilst still producing auxiliaries for convoy escort. I expect that with sufficient convoy escorts to lessen Allied submarine predations, limited American carrier forces in 1944 ( relative to historical and in-game norms) and a combination of a necessarily narrow-front Allied offensive and extremely deep reserves of twin-engined kamikazes such that throw weight of kamikazes can remain extremely high over a period of many days that it should prove possible to make any Allied attacks extremely costly and limit the rate of their offensive.

I will continue my policy of a "High-Low" mix in my air units as per Soviet doctrine with my research, trained pilots and training programme being heavily weighted in favour of maintaining a small number of high-quality fighter groups ( Currently I am operating 1 front-line fighter group for every 3 fighter groups on-map and would like to expand that to 1 front-line fighter group for every 4 to 5 fighter-groups on-map in order to maintain my pilot quality for as long as possible) whilst filling out recon, bomber and patrol squadrons with whatever is available. These bomber, recon and patrol units will be trained in combat with the commensurate increase in losses. As Trey is fond of saying, "He who defends everything defends nothing". In this instance he who attempts to maintain quality across the board will see it fall sooner rather than later. He who concentrates quality in the smallest possible number of units consistent with achieving local aerial supremacy over the decisive sector ( at the expense of ceding it everywhere else) should, logically, be able to maintain pilot quality longer. I have identified fighters as that arm in which it is most essential to maintain pilot quality and have identified the need for 300 front-line Zeros ( including those on KB) and 200 front-line Oscars up until July 1942 and have committed no more than this to the front. All other fighter units are committed to training programmes. An all-out effort will be made for a short time during the invasion of Pearl when I foresee a need to triple my front-line army fighter strength but this committment will be reduced to previous levels as quickly as possible and my ideal training ratio of 4-5:1 re-established.



Ground losses will, if India, Australia and the Soviet Union can be captured, be an irrelevance until major Allied offensives commence in 1944. Those of you reading the AAR may have noticed my complete indifference to losses in China and the DEI when compared to those in the Phillipines. The reason is that forces committed to operations in the DEI and China will have ample time to rebuild before moving onto their next targets while units in the Phillipines need more careful husbanding as they will get no more than 1 to 2 weeks to recover prior to embarking for India. So their losses have relevance only insofar as they threaten the success of operations in India. Once India falls ground losses will, again, be irrelevant until 1944.



So, that's it. I will be weaker than normal in 1942 in order to be stronger than normal in the second half of 1943. Once my battlefleet is destroyed during the American re-invasion of Hawaii I will switch over to a strategy based around high-experience fighter groups escorting masses of twin-engined torpedo-carrying kamikazes into the bowels of passing American fleets.I haven't seen anything like this attempted before but my analysis ( admittedly hampered by the fact that I am largely unaware of game dynamics) appears reasonable and if I'm going to invest time in a game I'm not interested in plowing the usual furrow. To paraphrase the ancient gladiators, I may be about to die but I plan to do so in a manner which satisfies my prediliction for unusual and aggressive approaches and which I will, therefore, enjoy. I don't care about winning or losing, my enjoyment comes from conducting interesting operations against great odds.
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ORIGINAL: Nemo121
I think you could have communicated all of this in a PM without coming on here and getting into labelling me etc.
In real life I'm a psychiatrist and it really is interesting to see the pathology evinced in what some people say/are driven to say here. Instead of any maturity being shown in a live and let live attitude

greetings....

But i did sent you a PM (after you didn't respond me to my e-mail) and never got the answer. So i have to ask you in public will you keep files just for your eyes only?

As for your AAR. I would like to see your AAR continues after that. I do not understand why you are bother with comments - your opponenet and you agreed on the rules (no rules) and you are playing it. There were several "Lunacy" games but no one complains about that. So i'm encouraging you to continue this AAR.

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Oh, that's weird. I sent you a reply on Saturday ( was on call on Friday so didn't get ur mail until Saturday) saying that of course I wouldn't give out ur password and offered to give you my password for my current game ( and a turn file so you can verify that I'm telling the truth).

Hmm, I've just checked my inbox and while it shows 6 messages it shows none as SENT. Sorry about that. I must have closed the window before hitting the "send" button ;). I'm absolutely atrocious for that sort of forgetful-mindedness ;).

So, I'll say it here again. Absolutely I wouldn't mess up someone else's PBEM by giving out their password and I'd be happy to give you a sort of "hostage to fortune" by giving you my password and a turn file so you can verify it is correct and be re-assured.


As to why I'm bothered. Well I dislike cheating intensely and so to be labelled a cheat is something which detracts from my enjoyment. After the initial flurry things settled down but recently it seems to be happening again and that detracts from my enjoyment. Simple.
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hi, that is not neccessary (your password) i'm guess that i'm "old fashioned" guy (little bit paranoic too) who believe if someone gives his word. So, everything is ok and sorry for interupting your AAR.

I would say few words in Przemico defence (if he allows me) - i don't think he tried to be rude or accuse you, more likely he choose poor words. It is possible since his mother tounge isn't english. But i repeat again to all folks - this is "lunacy game" and should be treated like that (although i think i wouldn't play lunacy game ever, i'm welcomed this AAR and found it really interesting; your's plans are created to the last details and they looks they are close to perfection - now that i know you are psychiatrist it doesn't suprises me anymore[:)])

maybe it looks like i'm just flattering you, but i would be really sorry if you stop yours daily updates. Your AAR format and writting style totally suits me - i can found plans about upcoming operations, i can found combat replays (which are important to see how earlier described operation goes) and i can conclude what to do or not to do. I'm not big fan of looong narrative AARs (to easy to get lost in details)... And of course there is enough narrative form in AAR so i can train my poor linguistic skills.


But I do understand that you can lose enjoyment. It is up to you...

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I enjoy this AAR tremendously, please keep it up ! :)
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Thanks for the reply Nemo , I am truly impressed with your attention to detail and having such a long term plan. It would be interesting to see if the old maxim of plans making contact with the enemy. And such ambition too [&o].. Good luck on taking both china and india . even PzB didnt take china and afaik he's the most succesful Japanese player on an AAR at least.

Continuing on Pauks comments maybe change the title to include a 'lunacy game' tag. then i doubt you'll get nay-sayers as they just wont bother reading a lunacy game while the rest of us who have a more laisse-faire <sp> attitude can continue to enjoy your game.

I can fully understand your feelings getting hurt of 'cheat' comments I'd hate that too and in your position would consider just playing quietly and having fun without having to defend your play style.
And whatever your decision I wish you all the best for the game, sounds liek your having a real ding dong.

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Thanks for the advice guys. I've added an explanatory paragraph to the first post and changed the topic to indicate that I'm playing under what I saw being referred to as "Anarchy Rules" in one AAR. I hope this should help divert those who wouldn't enjoy this AAR. Any advice on better wording or anything else i need to add would be appreciated as I think that disclaimer might well be the solution to this issue.


Rob,
As to no plan surviving contact with the enemy... Absolutely correct. I will counter with a paraphrasing of another famous quote, "Yeah but it sure as hell provides a useful baseline to improvise from [:D] " The overall plan isn't so much a rigid series of operations I will execute at exactly the stated times but more of a framework which sets the parameters within which I can decide whether a given operation is worth the diversion of resources and time required for its completion.


Got to run as I just got a turn back from Trey. At this rate we'll hit Feb 1st today and it'll be time for my Indian invasion fleet to begin loading. Plus I'll post a "Lessons Learned" piece.
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Hi, The only person who you have to make happy with how you play is your opponent.
Most of the people who read these AAR are Grognards. Grognards don't intend to be rude but they like to compare notes and point out where they are different. They come off sounding like they are arrogant know-it-alls but they are really quite friendly once you get to know them and get used to the lack of people skills.
This game is interesting and the AAR is excellent. The vast majority of readers however would never agree to play the Allied side (but I bet you would always find at least one)
About the only house rules I will insist on before playing Allies are
1. Stay off the map edges
2. Stay out of Allied supply sources in Karach and SF

Number 1 is simply because the world is larger then the map and the Japanese cannot cut off Allied supply by sitting on transport routes that on a larger map would simply move farther out and around. It does not take a great mind to realize the Allies are going to send convoys and the path they will require. Force them to use the long route but don't exploit the map edge. I think this is a fair and reasonable request. I even allow submarines to violate this rule

Number two is along the same lines. The world is larger then the map and the Allies have bases other then Karachi. Japan could not "close" the CBI. gaining all of India except for Karachi would still be a feather in the Japanese players cap without taking too much advantage of the maprestrictions the Allied player has in defending India. (There are bases that could support him in India but are not included in stock map. I think several mod maps have them)

But then some of the rules both players in this game have agreed to are not among those I would request. (but I normally agree to anything my opponent requests and enforce restrictions on myself I don't impose on opponents)

In the end it's the enjoyment of yourself and your opponent that matters most. When you write an AAR you are only sharing your game with interested persons. Don't let the readers dictate how or why you play. If anyone causes you grief in your AAR we will request they refrain from posting in it.
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/27/42

The action is really slowing down now with the fall of Manila, the convoy action finishing and much of the fighting in China winding down for a bit. So far we've had 6 days in which the combat report was under 10 Kb. 2 of these were in the last 3 days ( the other 4 were in mid-December when there was a 2 or 3 day period of re-organising my air groups and retasking my shipping which resulted in a lull).


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Sub attack near Muntok at 21,55

Japanese Ships
APD APD-32, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
APD APD-39
APD APD-38
APD APD-37

Allied Ships
SS KXV, hits 13, on fire, heavy damage

K- XV sinks but unfortunately so does APD-32. This is a bitter blow as my APDs are having a great war so far and I plan to keep them in the DEI in their ASW role.

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48 Lily x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 113

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 7 damaged


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 156

It is interesting here to note the effect of armour and durability on my bomber losses. The Ki-48s are suffering a loss rate of approximately 6 % while the Ki-49s are suffering less than a 1% loss rate.

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 41
Ki-21 Sally x 338
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 58 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IF: 1 destroyed
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed
Martin 139: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 5 destroyed
Hudson I: 3 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed
Swordfish: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
229 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 25
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 400

Oh yeah, Singapore is CLOSED for business. A few more results like this and I will switch to Port Attacks preparatory to conducting a drive-by bombardment by the battleline in order to make it look like I may be planning an invasion of Singapore. It won't fool Trey for long but if the results from Manila are anything to go by it could greatly damage Trey's defence of Singapore and burn a hellacious amount of supplies. This will allow me to commit extra forces to Rangoon ready for my attacks there at the beginning of February.

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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 37,26


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 7


No Allied losses

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Day Air attack on 120th IJA Base Force, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported

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Day Air attack on TF, near Hilo at 114,70

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 10
G4M1 Betty x 11

Allied aircraft
P-36A Mohawk x 4
P-40B Tomahawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-36A Mohawk: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Sea Thrush
AK Sage Brush, Torpedo hits 1


OOPS. My gathering of naval land-based bombers at Palmyra is blown by my forgetting to set their naval attack range to less than 20... I have rectified this error and will set them to a range of 11 ( the same as the 60 Zeroes co-located at Palmyra). It is 660 miles from Palmyra to Johnson and thus I should be able to range on any APs and AKs while they are unloading. Certainly I will take losses to enemy LRCAP operating from carriers but hurting Trey's first major counter-invasion will force him to play more cautiously while KB is in the Indian Ocean and will save many of my Pacific holdings. As such I have brought an additional 200 Nells and Bettys as well as an additional 100 Zeroes into the area. I can only stage 50 Zeroes and 100 Bettys/Nells out of Palmyra on any given day but being able to maintain my throw weight for three massive strikes should be quite devastating to any Allied invasion of Palmyra. I also harbour no illusions as to the survival of those groups. If, after disbanding, I can muster even half of the front-line Daitais I started off with at full strength I will be surprised. Still, massive losses in a somewhat decisive battle in a small period of time favour the Japanese more than a steady rate of loss which, over time, will bleed them just as badly but for less return.

It will also closely mirror my planned methodology during 1944 wherein I plan to fly further Kamikaze groups in after the initial groups have immolated themselves in the bowels of the American fleet to maintain my throw weight over time. Everything I know suggests that doing this should allow my 2nd and 3rd waves to inflict disproportionate loss on the Americans. Again I'm trying to shape things so I can learn lessons and adopt superior solutions in coming months and years.


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Ground combat at 44,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 127370 troops, 1153 guns, 61 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1950

Defending force 59172 troops, 334 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1486

Japanese max assault: 1874 - adjusted assault: 419

Allied max defense: 1451 - adjusted defense: 1465

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
3083 casualties reported
Guns lost 96
Vehicles lost 9

Allied ground losses:
325 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

OOPS!!! Ok, so the Chinese forces holding in the mountains north of Chungking are there in strength ;). Of course any forces committed to defend these mountains will be unavailable to aid in the defence of Chungking itself. I count only nine units there at present, down from 20 just 2 weeks ago.


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Ground combat at 45,31

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 20067 troops, 244 guns, 6 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 441

Defending force 14596 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 453

Japanese max assault: 415 - adjusted assault: 163

Allied max defense: 363 - adjusted defense: 42

Japanese assault odds: 3 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
129 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
116 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

The work to attrit cut-off enemy units continues.

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Ground combat at 48,30

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 101055 troops, 1119 guns, 10 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1884

Defending force 27736 troops, 164 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 645


Allied ground losses:
190 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Rangoon

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 47259 troops, 268 guns, 10 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 667

Defending force 28417 troops, 239 guns, 272 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 625


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 23,47

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10416 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 55

Defending force 4161 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 3

Japanese max assault: 46 - adjusted assault: 39

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 16

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
81 casualties reported

This represents attacks on a Brigade and Base Force I've cut off on the Malaysian peninsula. It looks like they have run out of supply and now are extremely vulnerable to attacks resulting in losses favourable to my forces. I'm having a hard time coming to terms with the combat model governing cut-off units. It makes little sense to me that these units seem to be able to withstand heavy odds and inflict higher casualties on my own troops than they themselves suffer but every day brings a bit more understanding of likely outcomes and aids future planning. The cost of these lessons is, unfortunately, high.


I didn't realise it until I came to write the AAR of this day but today was the first time in a long time that enemy B-17s and LB-30s didn't fly against Johnson. I wonder if this is due to morale issues among the bomber groups or shows a certain sensitivity to four-engined bomber losses on the Allied side? It will be interesting to see how long it is before they fly against Johnson again and if there is an immediate naval follow-up to these 4-engined strikes.

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/28/42

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Sub attack at 96,61

Japanese Ships
AP Tazan Maru
PC Takunan Maru #2
PC Tama Maru #8
PC Toshi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Dolphin

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ASW attack at 83,66

Japanese Ships
PG Shinko Maru #3
PG Kozan Maru
MSW Toshi Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS Triton

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ASW attack at 69,112

Japanese Ships
PC Showa Maru #5
PC Showa Maru #3
PC Shonon Maru #15
PC Nichi Maru #1
PC Gamitsu Maru #1
PG Saiko Maru
PG Kantori Maru
PG Fukui Maru
MSW Tama Maru #3
MSW Shonan Maru #8
MSW Wa 19

Allied Ships
SS Porpoise, hits 3

The ASW war continue apace. Trey is really heavily investing Noumea. It looks like he may have committed over a half-dozen submarines to the area. He has obviously guessed that I'm going for New Zealand. Even a single hit on a troopship with a message that Brigade or Independent Regiment troops are being rescued would confirm this for him. I will have to try to avoid that at all costs. The ASW operation in Noumea has been helped tremendously by the arrival of an Alf Daitai and Chutai.

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Day Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 28
Ki-48 Lily x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 111

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 6 damaged


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Port hits 21
Port fuel hits 8
Port supply hits 6

Again the loss rate per sortie for Lilys is much higher than for Helens... It is almost scary to think how heavy their losses would be if committed to the air offensive over Singapore.
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
Ki-21 Sally x 319
Ki-46-II Dinah x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 6 destroyed, 39 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Catalina I: 2 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
236 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 286

This will be the last of the low-level raids over Singapore. Future air raids will take place from 11,000 or more feet. I wanted to shut down the airbase quickly and thus was willing to accept this high casualty rate for a couple of days.
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Day Air attack on Bulla , at 40,75


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


No Allied losses

Resources hits 2

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
B-17C Fortress x 11


Allied aircraft losses
B-17C Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 4

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Day Air attack on Yokosuka 3rd SNLF, at 41,35

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24

Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 4
SB-2c x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 4 destroyed
SB-2c: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet

Good work from the Zeroes. They are gaining experience rapidly from these interceptions.

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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 37,26


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

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Day Air attack on 77th Chinese Corps, at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 45
Ki-30 Ann x 20
Ki-51 Sonia x 27
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-30 Ann: 1 damaged
Ki-15 Babs: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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ASW attack at 116,63

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64

Allied Ships
AK Admiral Nulton
AK Mormacsul
DD MacDonough
DD Hull

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ASW attack at 116,63

Japanese Ships
SS RO-64, hits 4

Allied Ships
DD McCall
DD Gridley
DD Craven
DD Mugford

DD McCall scored these hits. RO-64 is damaged but will make it back to Midway where 2 x AS and a couple of ARs are waiting to create a submarine support base once the port reaches size 3. I estimate it will reach size 3 about the 1st of February.

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Ground combat at 45,35

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 51806 troops, 585 guns, 5 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 900

Defending force 89376 troops, 333 guns, 56 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 2299



Allied ground losses:
396 casualties reported
Guns lost 9


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Ground combat at 45,31

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19800 troops, 242 guns, 6 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 431

Defending force 14447 troops, 43 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 444

Japanese max assault: 409 - adjusted assault: 160

Allied max defense: 358 - adjusted defense: 17

Japanese assault odds: 9 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
103 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at 48,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 101469 troops, 1127 guns, 10 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1902

Defending force 27229 troops, 160 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 646

Japanese max assault: 1800 - adjusted assault: 1843

Allied max defense: 635 - adjusted defense: 104

Japanese assault odds: 17 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
705 casualties reported
Guns lost 20

Allied ground losses:
877 casualties reported
Guns lost 20


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Ground combat at Rangoon

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 47428 troops, 269 guns, 10 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 679

Defending force 28645 troops, 240 guns, 273 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 633



Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 23,47

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10418 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 54

Defending force 4121 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 3

Japanese max assault: 45 - adjusted assault: 45

Allied max defense: 1 - adjusted defense: 19

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 45,35

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 88757 troops, 310 guns, 56 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 2275

Defending force 51806 troops, 585 guns, 5 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 900

Allied max assault: 1190 - adjusted assault: 176

Japanese max defense: 914 - adjusted defense: 1187

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
435 casualties reported
Guns lost 12
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
1123 casualties reported
Guns lost 23


Over the last two days of my attacks on the Chinese troops forced out of Sian the 10th War Area HQ and a Base Force have surrendered. I have no experience of forcing surrenders outside of base hexes and have never come across an individual unit surrendering before. I'm interpreting it as meaning that my pressure is having an effect and that if the attacks continue I can expect actual combat units to begin surrendering in the next few days. We'll see if this appreciation is correct soon enough.

Elsewhere I was gratified to note that my forces in Manila have regained over 200 AV in just the past 2 days. When Manila fell my force which had a potential of about 4300 AV could muster only 3100 AV. It is now back up to over 3300 AV. If this rate of recovery continues I may just keep my forces in Manilla a little longer than anticipated and skip the Soerabajan stop-off altogether. It seems that the 100,000 tons of supplies I moved in in order to aid rebuilding is doing the trick. In other news 160 APs and the necessary escorts have moved to Manila. I have sufficient space to lift the entire force committed to the Philippines in one go with a little to spare.
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RE: re: China and rebuilding.

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Manilla is a good place to rest ,, keep 20k + supply here at all costs too. when damaged and replacement troops arrive combat formation gain AV quick at first then slowly level off, making the last few points take ages ( especially in support troop for some odd reason).

As learned unarmoured bombers hate flak .. they are great in china however where the AA in minimal. so if you have sallies in china, might be worth swopping them for the lilys. just a thought .. ditto with the jap dive bombers.
sorry for the spelling . English is my main language , I just can't type . and i'm too lazy to edit :)
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RE: re: China and rebuilding.

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Hi, I think the much maligned Sonia is one of the few Japanese aircraft that has armor.
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RE: re: China and rebuilding.

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Yes the Sonia, Sally and Helen are among the few armoured Japanese bombers. The range and payload of the Sonia suck though.

That's why I stopped all divebomber production and have opted for twin-engined bombers. Unfortunately I made what appears to be an error and instead of continuing the Sallys and drawing on Mitsubishi engine production I stopped Sally production and expanded Helen production to 93 bombers per month which has put tremendous strain on my Nakajima engine production ( which I've had to increase from about 400 to about 600 ).

In future I would choose to just keep producing Sallys and save all the supply which I've used in switching to Helens and creating extra Nakajima factories.
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Hi, for me the 1 great virtue of the Sonia is it only requires a size 2 airfield to fly normal missions.
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RE: Lunacy or Shrewdness?

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Don't let the bastards get you down, Nemo. You're AAR is the BEST! You're analysis of the game is superbe. Reports like this are exactly whats needed in order to Improve the game in the long run. Your rebuttles to criticism have been right on throughout and I for one am thourouly impressed with your play and your ability to provide so much material.Don't stop the AAR, I for one will miss it greatly.

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