Naval and Defense News

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Any chance of an intelligence fallout because of that? Acoustic data/sonar specs?

Technology wise, UUV gliders arent anything new for China, though.

Haiyan UUV:

http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/china-te ... -mini-sub/
http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/east ... d-mini-sub

Guessing they've had blue prints for years.

Copy and paste is easy. Its figuring out how to use the platforms meaningfully that's key. They might have captured data they didn't have the means to collect on their own.

Mike

[jtoatoktoe]

USAF F-16s to receive new NexGen mission computers from Raytheon.

http://raytheon.mediaroom.com/2016-12-16-U-S-Air-Force-selects-Raytheon-F-16-mission-computer

[Dysta]

The soon-to-be President doesn't sounds impressed. The heck?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump- ... 00932.html

"We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!"

[xavierv]

France UK to Launch Concept Phase & Feasibility Studies for Future Anti-Ship Missile in March 2017

MBDA will start working on its next gen anti-ship missile, currently known as the Future Cruise and Anti-Ship Weapon (FCASW) / in French: Future Missile Anti-Navire Future Missile de Croisiere (FMAN/FMC), in March 2017. The announcement was made December 16th in a joint statement by UK's Minister for Defence Procurement Harriett Baldwin and Laurent Collet-Billon, the head of France's defence procurement agency (DGA).

Délégué Général pour l’Armement, Laurent Collet-Billon said:
"I sincerely thank the French and British teams for the huge amount of work that has led to this achievement. Several major milestones within our equipment cooperation await us in 2017 and we will work just as hard to pass them. I am specifically thinking about the FC/ASW programme conception phase contract award in March 2017 and the launch of the FCAS programme demonstration phase at the end of the year."

The UK and France intend to jointly develop several new missiles, one of them being the FCASW. FCASW should eventually replace both anti-ship missiles used by the Royal Navy and Marine Nationale (Harpoon and Exocet respectively) as well as air-launched cruise missiles used by both countries (the Storm Shadow / Scalp). In service date is expected to be around 2030.

Contacted by Navy Recognition, an MBDA source said the studies would likely take place at MBDA France in Le Plessis-Robinson as well as at MBDA UK in Stevenage.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -2017.html

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Any chance of an intelligence fallout because of that? Acoustic data/sonar specs?

Technology wise, UUV gliders arent anything new for China, though.

Haiyan UUV:

http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/china-te ... -mini-sub/
http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/east ... d-mini-sub

Guessing they've had blue prints for years.

Copy and paste is easy. Its figuring out how to use the platforms meaningfully that's key. They might have captured data they didn't have the means to collect on their own.

Mike

After few searches on Google, it looks like this underwater glider is LBS-G, developed by Teledyne which is a company for building sea research instruments . And surprisingly, China also have WPOS (Western Pacific Ocean System) program aided with many nations, although no clear hint if Teledyne is involved with it. The Chinese UUV was developed since 2015.

While medias disregarded WPOS and presumed Chinese UUV is for military purposes, LBS-G is a project contracted by US Navy, incorporated with LBS system. So Teledyne is clearly not a victim.

https://issuu.com/reson/docs/mtr_201602__only_teledyne (issue)
http://wpos.qdio.cas.cn/jzdt/tpxw/20150 ... 99577.html (Simplified Chinese)
http://www.navaldrones.com/LBS-Glider.html

Teledyne Glider:


WPOS Glider:

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

The soon-to-be President doesn't sounds impressed. The heck?

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/donald-trump- ... 00932.html

"We should tell China that we don't want the drone they stole back.- let them keep it!"

Yes but we live in a country were we can criticize that without fear of being run over by a tank or disappeared. Do you?

Mike

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Dysta

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Any chance of an intelligence fallout because of that? Acoustic data/sonar specs?

Technology wise, UUV gliders arent anything new for China, though.

Haiyan UUV:

http://thediplomat.com/2014/07/china-te ... -mini-sub/
http://www.popsci.com/blog-network/east ... d-mini-sub

Guessing they've had blue prints for years.

Copy and paste is easy. Its figuring out how to use the platforms meaningfully that's key. They might have captured data they didn't have the means to collect on their own.

Mike

After few searches on Google, it looks like this underwater glider is LBS-G, developed by Teledyne which is a company for building sea research instruments . And surprisingly, China also have WPOS (Western Pacific Ocean System) program aided with many nations, although no clear hint if Teledyne is involved with it. The Chinese UUV was developed since 2015.

While medias disregarded WPOS and presumed Chinese UUV is for military purposes, LBS-G is a project contracted by US Navy, incorporated with LBS system. So Teledyne is clearly not a victim.

https://issuu.com/reson/docs/mtr_201602__only_teledyne (issue)
http://wpos.qdio.cas.cn/jzdt/tpxw/20150 ... 99577.html (Simplified Chinese)
http://www.navaldrones.com/LBS-Glider.html

Teledyne Glider:


WPOS Glider:

Lol. They are clearly the same and China has a long proud history of ip theft.

Mike

[Hongjian]

Type 901 AOE out for sea trials.

A big girl.

[Gunner98]

Not sure if this has been posted here or not but the link has some analysis on the Type 901 from earlier this year:

http://www.admiraltytrilogy.com/cic/Har ... ype901.pdf

B

[ExNusquam]

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yes but we live in a country were we can criticize that without fear of being run over by a tank or disappeared. Do you?

Mike

Mike, while your post made me sensibly chuckle; Dysta does have a point. POTUS-Elect's statement is a departure from 1. Current US policy on freedom of navigation and 2. his statements during the campaign about taking a harder line with the PRC.

[ExNusquam]

It appears that the F-15E is getting it's AESA upgrade this year. Per Raytheon, the AN/APG-82 is an AN/APG-79/-63(v)3 derivative. This will likely be a huge plus to the Mud Hen, improving it's ability to target PGMs at stand-off ranges.

https://www.dvidshub.net/news/217090/sj ... ar-upgrade

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: Hongjian

Type 901 AOE out for sea trials.

A big girl.

Got a name for this big guy? Think I've got it with designation in the db. Just no name. IIRC this is the first class fast enough to travel with the CV correct?

Also noticing the ciws at the corners.

Mike

[mikmykWS]

ORIGINAL: ExNusquam

ORIGINAL: mikmyk

Yes but we live in a country were we can criticize that without fear of being run over by a tank or disappeared. Do you?

Mike

Mike, while your post made me sensibly chuckle; Dysta does have a point. POTUS-Elect's statement is a departure from 1. Current US policy on freedom of navigation and 2. his statements during the campaign about taking a harder line with the PRC.

Don't blame me I didn't vote him. [:)]

I'm honestly going to be fair and give the guy an honest shot. I think there is going to be a fairly large gap between what he's said and what his policies end up being. Honestly I think he likes busting people's chops. Kinda like Dysta!

Mike

[Hongjian]

Got a name for this big guy? Think I've got it with designation in the db. Just no name. IIRC this is the first class fast enough to travel with the CV correct?

Also noticing the ciws at the corners.

Mike

Yes, the first class to be powered by gas turbines helping it to reach 25+ knots.

Name is not known, but the propable pennant number is 956.

[Kitchens Sink]

Ha! It's in the new scenario I'm working on "3 No Trump". My what a big target [:D]. But guarded by 2 Type 055 Cruiser/Destroyers, and a host of other Frigates.

That thing is a monster!

[Dysta]

Returned.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-c ... SKBN14526J
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2016- ... 913344.htm
https://news.usni.org/2016/12/18/china- ... avy-glider

[xavierv]

Australia and France Sign Future Submarine Inter-Governmental Agreement

Australia’s Minister for Defence, Senator the Hon Marise Payne and France’s Minister of Defence, Mr Jean-Yves Le Drian, today welcomed the signing of an Agreement on Australia’s Future Submarine Program. The agreement establishes the framework between the Governments of Australia and France required for the development of the Royal Australian Navy’s new fleet of submarines.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... ement.html

[Dysta]

ORIGINAL: jmax

Well the good news is that nobody wants to fight over Taiwan-...

Quoted his reply with a video directly from Chinese military journalists, just for refrence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXoPTjjCvAI (Mandarin & Simplified Chinese)

[kevinkins]

It was just revealed that when the Chinese techs opened the drone they found a box of fortune cookies. All but one cookie had slips of paper with lottery numbers. But one slip did read, and I quote:

"how much deeper would the ocean be without sponges?"

The techs ran off in a panic thinking their sub program was just set back 10 years.

Kevin

[xavierv]

Kongsberg Joint Strike Missile completes long range flight test

The Joint Strike Missile (JSM) has successfully completed a flight test in the United States. The missile was launched from an Edwards Air Force-based F-16 over the Utah Test and Training Range west of Salt Lake City.

The JSM is a unique strike capability designed for internal carriage on the F-35. The test demonstrated safe separation from the aircraft performing a number of challenging flight manoeuvres, long range while continuously alternating speed and altitude, unique capabilities for this class of strike missiles.

http://www.navyrecognition.com/index.ph ... -test.html