Rematch 4 player game (Orm, Peskpesk, jjdenver and Mayhemizer)

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Did Germany choose combined?

[Orm]

*curses*

Yes, Germany selected combined.

I was about to change it to combined (for Germany) when I muttered that Japan had nothing to do and that shifted my focus on whether go with combined for Japan or land... and in my old dotage I have no capacity to hold more than one thought at once. [:(]

[Mayhemizer_slith]

[:)]

[Orm]

Sep/Oct '41
Impulse #3 (Axis)

No strategic bombing. No Ground Strikes.

Rail Move:
Germany:
MTN Div Stettin->Pskov

Land Moves:

Germany:
MECH 25,52->24,52
HQI 23,52->22,52
HQI 38,54->Novgorod
HQA 43,52->44,52
ARM Konigsberg->45,47
ARM Div Konigsberg->46,47

Italy:
HQI (39,50) -> 39,51
HQA (59,26) -> 60,26

Japan:
CAV -> Seoul
HQI (76,136) -> 76,135
INF (Tianshui) -> 76,133


Air Rebase:

Germany:
FTR2 Konigsberg->45,53
LND3 Konigsberg->45,51'
LND2 38,52->43,53
ATR Florence->51,45
LND2 52,56->47,53

Italy
FTR2 (43,51) -> 46,53
LND3 (42,50) -> 40,53
FTR2 (St-Nazaire) -> Bordeaux

Japan:
FTR2 (Kweiyang) -> Shanghai
NAV2 (74,132) -> 75,135

No reorganization.

[Orm]

Same old rain...

[Mayhemizer_slith]

S/O 41 Allied 5

No DoW

CW and USSR combined, others pass.


Naval air
USSR FTR2 Arctic Ocean box 2.


Naval move
CW TRS with MIL from Faroes Gap enters Norwegian Sea.

Will Axis subs intercept it?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

With roll 4 intercept fails and TRS sails to Archangel.

CW returns 10 CPs from BoB to Liverpool.


Naval combat
CW pass all combat.
USSR initiates in Baltic Sea.

No more planes for Axis.

Allies 2, Axis 5.

4 points are used to choose submarine combat.
2 points to increase damage to 1D 3A.

Naval combat is over, subs dive deep.

Where do you want to abort CPs?

[Mayhemizer_slith]

CPs to Kiel.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

CW bombers miss their target in Prague.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Rail:
USSR Rostov MIL to same hex with Timoshenko.
CW HQ to Archangel.


Land move

USSR
INF 41.58 -> 39.57
MIL 40.58 -> 39.57
INF 38.57 -> 37.57
INF Smolensk -> 45.55
AT Smolensk -> 45.55

CW
GAR from Murmansk one hex SE.


Debark
CW GAR to Murmansk.
CW TERR to Kuwait.


Air rebase

USSR
FTR2 37.59 -> Adjacent to Archangel
FTR2 45.55 -> Smolensk
FTR2 47.55 -> 45.55

CW
Spitfire from Plymouth to Bristol.
Bomber in India closer to partisans.


Back to the Axis.

[cfinch]

CW HQ to Archangel....


this just always seems wrong
i can't imagine Stalin allowing 1,000 non-RU troops into RU let alone entire corps

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: cfinch

CW HQ to Archangel....


this just always seems wrong
i can't imagine Stalin allowing 1,000 non-RU troops into RU let alone entire corps

Indeed.

Although, the CW forces in USSR are now in the region of 150,000 - 200,000 men.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: cfinch

CW HQ to Archangel....


this just always seems wrong
i can't imagine Stalin allowing 1,000 non-RU troops into RU let alone entire corps

Indeed.

Although, the CW forces in USSR are now in the region of 150,000 - 200,000 men.

There are 5 HQ/GAR/MIL corps and 1 FTR corp at the moment. Stalin asked if CW can afford some more help and CW said yes...

[jjdenver]

Unfortunately WIF has many ahistorical items. This is one of them. The idea we have as allies is to send CW units that are not much good elsewhere: 4-1 GAR, 3-3 MIL, 5-3 INF, etc. Once they are all in place the truly valuable units (2 HQI's) can be withdrawn and put to better use by late 41.

The ahistorical item that bothers me most about WIF is the lack of "friction" for Germany as they advance deeper into Russia. It just feels so wrong to have Panzers running at full strength into the Urals and Astrakhan and Baku. Historically the problem with partisans, rail gauge, lack of rail engines/cars, transportation line sabotage, etc along with the wear and tear on trucks and roads made this really untenable for the Germans in 42/43. Their logistical tether was extremely stretched by late 42 just advancing to Stalingrad and to the beginning of the Caucasus mountains. This "friction" isn't modeled in WIF. In fact Soviet partisan number and frequency should probably be much higher though this wouldn't fix the "friction" problem imo.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

Has anyone ever railed CW units to East and attacked Japan using USSR rail roads to bring units to East?

[Courtenay]

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

Has anyone ever railed CW units to East and attacked Japan using USSR rail roads to bring units to East?

Yes. Me.

[Mayhemizer_slith]

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

Has anyone ever railed CW units to East and attacked Japan using USSR rail roads to bring units to East?

Yes. Me.

Awesome! [:)]

[Orm]

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

Has anyone ever railed CW units to East and attacked Japan using USSR rail roads to bring units to East?

Yes. Me.

I thought that brought supply issues due to the limit set on the length on the supply line? Maybe that limit has been changed?

[Courtenay]

ORIGINAL: Orm

ORIGINAL: Courtenay

ORIGINAL: Mayhemizer_slith

Has anyone ever railed CW units to East and attacked Japan using USSR rail roads to bring units to East?

Yes. Me.

I thought that brought supply issues due to the limit set on the length on the supply line? Maybe that limit has been changed?

No, as far as I know, those supply issues are still there. However, this was in 1945, after the conquest of Germany. The US stuck a CP in the Sea of Japan to put the units in supply. I also was railing US units through Russia, too.

[Orm]

Sep/Oct '41
Impulse #7 (Axis)

No declarations of war.

Combined: Italy, Germany, Japan

No port strikes.

Naval Air:
Germany:
FTR2 -> Arctic Ocean 2-box

Naval Movement:

Japan:
TRS (Shanghai) -> China Sea - embark CAV from Seoul
2 x CA (Tokyo) -> China Sea 0-box

Germany:
2 x BB (old) + TRS + 4 x CP -> Baltic Sea 0 box - TRS embark INF from Frederikshavn

Italy:
SUB (Bordeaux) -> Norwegian Coast 2-box
2 x SUB (Bordeaux) -> Bay of Biscay 4-box

Italy begin searching in the Norwegian Sea


Picture from Sep/Oct '41 Impulse #7 (Axis) - Naval Combat