July 20, 1943
An important day.
India-Burma border. Kalemyo.
The battered 2nd area army is trying to get out of the pit where it's been confined by the Japanese high command.
These 38,000 men are the rear guard of the 400,000 men army that, only few months back, was controlling half of the indian subcontinent.
These guys have fought from Patna down to Calcutta, then to Dimampur, keeping the exit door open for the rest of their companions to march south, to the safe plains of Burma.
The 2nd Area Army (often confused by me with the 15th Army HQ, don't ask me why) is composed by two elite divisions of the IJA: the 33rd and the 55th. 2 AT units, one heavy mortar unit and 5 AA units are supporting them.
They face the best of the best of the allied arsenal.
Several American Tank battallions, with shermans and stuarts.
Several British elite tank units.
And, among all, the 3rd USMC Infantry Division. Possibly the best unit in the theatre.
They have fought from Dimampur to Imphal, always keeping the allies at bay.
They thanked the high command for leaving enough stockpiled supplies on the way back to Kalemyo.
But now, after one month of constant fightings, those supplies are over.
From Kalemyo, they started to move out in the jungle, back to Burma.
3 miles a day. A real slog.
The AA units and the Army HQ first, the two divisions covering their back.
The 33rd was the rearguard of the rearguard. And it took the beating.
The allied tanks attacked every other day.
From 370 AVs the big and proud unit now has 7 AVs left.
But they keep on marching.
In one week the allied army has destroyed 2 levels of forts at Kalemyo, always achieving a 1-2 but always producing much more casualities on our side than on theirs.
And now that the goal was near, the high command orders the 33rd to be divided in 3 regiments and to leave the role of rearguard to the 55th which still have 180 AVs left.
The high command understands the importance of this day. The allies will surely attack today. It has been a pattern so far. Every other day a DA.
So it is ordered a massive aid from the air force.
The mission is easy to understand, not that much to accomplish: fight for the air space of Kalemyo. Cover the retreating troops and send every bomber we have in theatre to slow the allied tanks.
The point is that the Allied HC thinks the same.
The result is a massive air battle over Kalemyo.
Jugs and P-38Hs sweep from Ledo and Dimampur.
They find A6M8s, A6M5cs and KI-43 IIIa.
The battle is fierce.
The zeros down 7 P-47s and 6 P-38s. Losses on our side are obviously higher: 35 of the LRCAP planes are lost. Not bad.
Then 160 Franks sweep the nearby hex. They find some Hurricanes on LRCAP. They butcher them easily. 12 hurricanes are lost for no losses on our side.
Then the allied bombers arrive. at least 150 2Es.
There are still planes defending our troops.
20 Wellingotns are bagged, but then our fighters need to leave.
When the hordes of B25s arrive the skies over Kalemyo are clean of fighters...
The 33rd is hit again and again...but it keeps on marching...
The AA units fire their very last rounds...
Then our bombers arrive too...but the allied AA is strong and the storms don't help us...
When the allied launched their assault the 33rd is already gone. The 55th stands still, covering the retreat of the twin unit.
The allied tanks attack in waves. The 55th shivers...but doesn't give up (80 exp, 89 morale).
The supporting units are now just a shadow of what used to be... but the allied tanks don't break the lines.
Losses are horrendous...but only a 1-1 is achieved... and now only 2 miles are left to be marched... we can get there!!!!
A couple of units that couldn't get there in time will be left behind, but the 55th will be able to get out!
In the air, we lost 44 planes in A2A against 44! Amazing result considering the tactical disadvantage and what we faced.
In China, another victory for the tank divisions... need to destroy as many units as possible now...chungking needs to be starved
Allied DMSs approaching Diego Garcia...
Greyjoy(J) vs. Obvert(A) - The air war in China- DBB, SLs, PDU OFF
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RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: crsutton
ORIGINAL: Sangeli
Yes, even though Sabang has a decent fort I just don't know if defending it with 35k soldiers is the best move. Allies will have full prep for the base and the stacking limit is a lot higher than 35k. Personally I don't think the solution is to reinforce it; I think it's to pull a lot of it back. Let the Allies have Sabang and concentrate defenses further south. The initial moves of invasions are always easy to pull off and Sabang is target #1. It's the subsequent moves after you have reacted that become more difficult. Concentrate on stopping the Allies at that point.
Sabang is a base that can be built to a level 9 airfield and pretty decent port. For that reason alone you want to deny it to the Allies for as long as possible. Basically after mid 43, once the Allies get their foot in a door, it won't come out. Yes, they can take Sabang but you almost have to fight for it anyways. Edit..Oh, I see that Master GJ has already built it up. Has to be fought for now...[;)]
Sebang is surely a good place to invade for the allies, as we all know. 95,000 of SL cap is a lot, which means at least 4 divisions.
But I also do believe that, against a well defended base, even if it's in clear terrain, it's quite a gamble to make a direct assault without first having conquered any other supporting base.
I think the base is pretty safe for the moment. I worry much more about Siberoet and the other islands on the western coast. Those are much more easy to conquer and just as dangerous.
I am doing what I can. As you know forces are limited and hard choices need to be made
RE: Paoshan falls
Kwajalein (Marshalls) is now ready to fall. Roi Namur will be the very last base in the Marshalls in allied hands. Then he'll probably go north to Wake and Eniwetok and west to Kusiae.
What could be done in those places has been done. Especially Kusiae should be quite a nasty place to invade and I can efford the loss of it as long as Ponape remains a bastion in my hands.
Pretty strange that he hasn't done anything yet against Exmouth...mmm....
What could be done in those places has been done. Especially Kusiae should be quite a nasty place to invade and I can efford the loss of it as long as Ponape remains a bastion in my hands.
Pretty strange that he hasn't done anything yet against Exmouth...mmm....
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RE: Paoshan falls
I keep double checking the date of your war Nic. Its only July '43 so the Allies don't have overwhelming assault shipping to use yet. It depends how much of those pre-war and early war APs Erik was able to keep until 3/43 for their upgrades to APAs.
The conquest of the Marshalls didn't require them. A place like Exmouth probably will because he has to worry about your carriers.
Good job so far in your retreat from India into Burma. [&o] "The Art of the Retreat in AE" is difficult to master. I haven't done it enough in my games to figure it out yet. [:'(]
The conquest of the Marshalls didn't require them. A place like Exmouth probably will because he has to worry about your carriers.
Good job so far in your retreat from India into Burma. [&o] "The Art of the Retreat in AE" is difficult to master. I haven't done it enough in my games to figure it out yet. [:'(]
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RE: Paoshan falls
By July the Americans have at least 30-40 LSTs and 10-20 LCIs as well as over 100 deployable landing craft to supplement the APAs and AKAs.
Not overwhelming, but not shabby by any means.
Not overwhelming, but not shabby by any means.
Hans
RE: Paoshan falls
July 21, 1943
A tough day.
Indi-Burma border. Kalemyo.
While the 55th ID sleeps away, the 2nd area army and the whole lot of supporting troops are left behind. Hard choice to make, but a couple of more days and I could have lost 2 full experienced divisions.
While the AA units and the guns can easily bought back, a division is expensive and takes a lot of time to be rebuilt... a choice I had to make.
The support units are overrunned and two are destroyed (an AA unit and an heavy mortar unit). Will be bought back and sent to the Mariannas.
Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 21426 troops, 303 guns, 1098 vehicles, Assault Value = 789
Defending force 5193 troops, 162 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 11
Allied adjusted assault: 349
Japanese adjusted defense: 73
Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Kalemyo !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
731 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 211 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 144 (143 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 201 (201 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
762nd Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Marine Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
6th Medium Regiment
III Indian Corps
134th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
2/1st Med Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
Defending units:
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Area Army
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
54th Field AA Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
12th Ind. AA Battalion
IN SOPAC/SWPAC
At Finshhafen, Erik tries to support his two advanced units (still don't know what they are) with a supply landing operation. The ships are welcomed by the CD gun fire and by some mines... [:D]
At Buin, heavy naval bombing, followed up by air bombings, plaster the base. Erik lands the 2nd USMC regiment, but the following attack only achieve a 1-2 and forts remain at 4. Won't last long, I know, but everyday helps
Ground combat at Buin (109,131)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12191 troops, 250 guns, 163 vehicles, Assault Value = 455
Defending force 7126 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 193
Allied adjusted assault: 544
Japanese adjusted defense: 711
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
405 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
2nd Marine Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
Defending units:
18th Garrison Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
42nd JNAF AF Unit
44th JNAF AF Unit
45th JNAF AF Unit
In the Marshalls, after several days of bombings, the yanks launch another DA...and got butchered!
Ground combat at Kwajalein Island (132,115)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 4478 troops, 55 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 105
Defending force 3948 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61
Allied adjusted assault: 10
Japanese adjusted defense: 50
Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)
Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
847 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1/542nd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
Defending units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Naval Guard Unit
6th Fleet
Nimur Naval Fortress
Kwajalein Base Force
A tough day.
Indi-Burma border. Kalemyo.
While the 55th ID sleeps away, the 2nd area army and the whole lot of supporting troops are left behind. Hard choice to make, but a couple of more days and I could have lost 2 full experienced divisions.
While the AA units and the guns can easily bought back, a division is expensive and takes a lot of time to be rebuilt... a choice I had to make.
The support units are overrunned and two are destroyed (an AA unit and an heavy mortar unit). Will be bought back and sent to the Mariannas.
Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 21426 troops, 303 guns, 1098 vehicles, Assault Value = 789
Defending force 5193 troops, 162 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 11
Allied adjusted assault: 349
Japanese adjusted defense: 73
Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Kalemyo !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
731 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 211 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 144 (143 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 201 (201 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
762nd Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Marine Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
6th Medium Regiment
III Indian Corps
134th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
2/1st Med Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
Defending units:
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Area Army
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
54th Field AA Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
12th Ind. AA Battalion
IN SOPAC/SWPAC
At Finshhafen, Erik tries to support his two advanced units (still don't know what they are) with a supply landing operation. The ships are welcomed by the CD gun fire and by some mines... [:D]
At Buin, heavy naval bombing, followed up by air bombings, plaster the base. Erik lands the 2nd USMC regiment, but the following attack only achieve a 1-2 and forts remain at 4. Won't last long, I know, but everyday helps
Ground combat at Buin (109,131)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12191 troops, 250 guns, 163 vehicles, Assault Value = 455
Defending force 7126 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 193
Allied adjusted assault: 544
Japanese adjusted defense: 711
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
405 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
2nd Marine Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
Defending units:
18th Garrison Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
42nd JNAF AF Unit
44th JNAF AF Unit
45th JNAF AF Unit
In the Marshalls, after several days of bombings, the yanks launch another DA...and got butchered!
Ground combat at Kwajalein Island (132,115)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 4478 troops, 55 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 105
Defending force 3948 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61
Allied adjusted assault: 10
Japanese adjusted defense: 50
Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)
Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
847 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1/542nd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
Defending units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Naval Guard Unit
6th Fleet
Nimur Naval Fortress
Kwajalein Base Force
RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: ny59giants
I keep double checking the date of your war Nic. Its only July '43 so the Allies don't have overwhelming assault shipping to use yet. It depends how much of those pre-war and early war APs Erik was able to keep until 3/43 for their upgrades to APAs.
The conquest of the Marshalls didn't require them. A place like Exmouth probably will because he has to worry about your carriers.
Good job so far in your retreat from India into Burma. [&o] "The Art of the Retreat in AE" is difficult to master. I haven't done it enough in my games to figure it out yet. [:'(]
Erik has kept his best ships (CVs and future APA/AKA included) out of the war for 1 and half year now. He saved them all!
Thanks for the retreat. Gotta admit that there were moments in which I was very scared about not doing it... Madras...Ceylon...Patna...Calcutta... but everything went smooth and, in the end, I only lost a couple of smaller units...not bad
RE: Paoshan falls
Reinforcing the Kuriles.
I think it's about time that I get serious about the Kuriles.
The defensive plan is the following:
Paramushiro Jiima: A division plus some base forces
Onnekotan Jiima: A division + 2 base forces
Shimushiri Jiima: A division + Air HQ, 2 base forces and a SNLF unit
Etorofu: a brigade plus a base force
Hokkaido: 2 IDs + 7 base forces and 1 Air Army HQ.
36 brand new KI-61d are being moved to Hokkaido, along with 56 Dive bombers, 27 Kates, 36 Betties, 16 Mavis and 36 Oscars IIIa. Not enough to counter a full scale invasion, but this is what I can get there at the moment.
Finshhafen is a key point. If it holds, as I wish, along with Umboi Island can prevent any advance towards the NG coast. even if Lae and Nazdab gets build up to level 8 and 9, the presence of these two bastions can really slow Erik's advance.
The air alone cannot win the war. Ships needs to bring men forward. And the ships need to move through that strait...with CD units, mines, midjet subs and the danger posed by Rabaul.
Just in case I have sent some units to Saidor and Madang too, so he can't hope to bypass my bastions marching through the jungle.
His only way will be flanking Rabaul on the eastern side...thus exposing to my air and navy... my plan is to last until 1944 in this region. by that time, my rear defensive line should be ready
I think it's about time that I get serious about the Kuriles.
The defensive plan is the following:
Paramushiro Jiima: A division plus some base forces
Onnekotan Jiima: A division + 2 base forces
Shimushiri Jiima: A division + Air HQ, 2 base forces and a SNLF unit
Etorofu: a brigade plus a base force
Hokkaido: 2 IDs + 7 base forces and 1 Air Army HQ.
36 brand new KI-61d are being moved to Hokkaido, along with 56 Dive bombers, 27 Kates, 36 Betties, 16 Mavis and 36 Oscars IIIa. Not enough to counter a full scale invasion, but this is what I can get there at the moment.
Finshhafen is a key point. If it holds, as I wish, along with Umboi Island can prevent any advance towards the NG coast. even if Lae and Nazdab gets build up to level 8 and 9, the presence of these two bastions can really slow Erik's advance.
The air alone cannot win the war. Ships needs to bring men forward. And the ships need to move through that strait...with CD units, mines, midjet subs and the danger posed by Rabaul.
Just in case I have sent some units to Saidor and Madang too, so he can't hope to bypass my bastions marching through the jungle.
His only way will be flanking Rabaul on the eastern side...thus exposing to my air and navy... my plan is to last until 1944 in this region. by that time, my rear defensive line should be ready
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HansBolter
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RE: Paoshan falls
Don't overlook Hansa Bay once he breaches the Umboi line.
It is the last base along the NG coast that can be built to a level 9 airfield.
It is the last base along the NG coast that can be built to a level 9 airfield.
Hans
RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: HansBolter
Don't overlook Hansa Bay once he breaches the Umboi line.
It is the last base along the NG coast that can be built to a level 9 airfield.
I know, but Hansa Bay is too close to his main base complex (Buna, PM, Lae-Nazdab). Can't hope to hold on there and I don't wanna build up bases that I cannot really defend.
No, the strategy is to let everything un-built from Umboi up to Sarmi-Biak.
Once he breaks through Umboi he will have to build up them all but I wont' fight for those bases (Hollandia, Hansa Bay, Vanimo etc). Let him come north...
July 22, 1943
The day sees only air battles...
The Gorges sweep Lae for the first time, finding lots of juicy targets... P-38s, Spits and Kittihawks. The Australians...love to kill the Kangooros [:D]
As always the Georges arrive first (also a Frank Sentai is involved but it arrives when the battle is already over... )and do well.
6 N1K1 lost (3 KIA pilots) for 36 allied fighters downed [8D]
Unfortunately the 3 pilots KIA are my top three aces...[:o] with 8, 8 and 6 kills... oh man what a loss
Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 22 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 6 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 40
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 8
Spitfire Vc Trop x 16
Kittyhawk III x 12
P-38G Lightning x 14
Japanese aircraft losses
N1K1-J George: 2 destroyed
Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk III: 3 destroyed
Spitfire Vc Trop: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 3 destroyed
P-38G Lightning: 4 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
5 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 25000 feet
CAP engaged:
No.18 Sqn RNZAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 4 on standby, 6 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 27 minutes
No.79 Sqn RAAF with Spitfire Vc Trop (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 8 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 23 minutes
No.82 Sqn RAAF with Kittyhawk III (0 airborne, 6 on standby, 0 scrambling)
2 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 18 minutes
8th FG/80th FS with P-38G Lightning (0 airborne, 10 on standby, 0 scrambling)
4 plane(s) not yet engaged, 0 being recalled, 0 out of immediate contact.
Group patrol altitude is 25000
Time for all group planes to reach interception is 15 minutes
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Morning Air attack on Lae , at 99,126
Weather in hex: Light rain
Raid spotted at 17 NM, estimated altitude 29,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 4 minutes
Japanese aircraft
N1K1-J George x 4
Allied aircraft
Spitfire Vc Trop x 7
Kittyhawk III x 4
P-38G Lightning x 1
No Japanese losses
Allied aircraft losses
Spitfire Vc Trop: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk III: 1 destroyed
Aircraft Attacking:
2 x N1K1-J George sweeping at 25000 feet
What else?
Not much to be honest....we're almost ready to attack Wenchow in China
If I only had more than one George sentai.....[8|]
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RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Stop getting attached to your pilots! [:D]
Japanese pilots are meant to crash and burn. And they do![:D]
RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: GreyJoy
July 21, 1943
A tough day.
Indi-Burma border. Kalemyo.
While the 55th ID sleeps away, the 2nd area army and the whole lot of supporting troops are left behind. Hard choice to make, but a couple of more days and I could have lost 2 full experienced divisions.
While the AA units and the guns can easily bought back, a division is expensive and takes a lot of time to be rebuilt... a choice I had to make.
The support units are overrunned and two are destroyed (an AA unit and an heavy mortar unit). Will be bought back and sent to the Mariannas.
Ground combat at Kalemyo (59,42)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 21426 troops, 303 guns, 1098 vehicles, Assault Value = 789
Defending force 5193 troops, 162 guns, 196 vehicles, Assault Value = 11
Allied adjusted assault: 349
Japanese adjusted defense: 73
Allied assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)
Allied forces CAPTURE Kalemyo !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), preparation(-), experience(-), supply(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
731 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 211 destroyed, 5 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 144 (143 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Vehicles lost 201 (201 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 8
Units destroyed 1
Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 4 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
762nd Tank Battalion
627th Tank Destroyer Battalion
3rd Marine Division
3rd Carabiniers Regiment
754th Tank Battalion
194th Tank Battalion
150th RAC Regiment
50th Tank Brigade
6th Medium Regiment
III Indian Corps
134th Field Artillery Battalion
2nd Hyderabad Base Force
183rd Field Artillery Battalion
IV Indian Corps
2/1st Med Regiment
1st West African AA Regiment
Defending units:
1st Art.Mortar Regiment
31st Ind.AA Gun Co
36th Field AA Battalion
2nd Area Army
2nd Ind.AA Gun Co
2nd RF Gun Battalion
41st Air Defense AA Battalion
6th Air Defense AA Regiment
54th Field AA Battalion
1st RF Gun Battalion
12th Ind. AA Battalion
IN SOPAC/SWPAC
At Finshhafen, Erik tries to support his two advanced units (still don't know what they are) with a supply landing operation. The ships are welcomed by the CD gun fire and by some mines... [:D]
At Buin, heavy naval bombing, followed up by air bombings, plaster the base. Erik lands the 2nd USMC regiment, but the following attack only achieve a 1-2 and forts remain at 4. Won't last long, I know, but everyday helps
Ground combat at Buin (109,131)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 12191 troops, 250 guns, 163 vehicles, Assault Value = 455
Defending force 7126 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 193
Allied adjusted assault: 544
Japanese adjusted defense: 711
Allied assault odds: 1 to 2 (fort level 4)
Combat modifiers
Defender: terrain(+), forts(+), disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker:
Japanese ground losses:
405 casualties reported
Squads: 1 destroyed, 29 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 1 disabled
Allied ground losses:
104 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 15 disabled
Non Combat: 1 destroyed, 1 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Assaulting units:
32nd Infantry Division
2nd Marine Regiment
147th Field Artillery Battalion
131st Field Artillery Battalion
97th Field Artillery Battalion
Defending units:
18th Garrison Unit
46th Naval Guard Unit
42nd JNAF AF Unit
44th JNAF AF Unit
45th JNAF AF Unit
In the Marshalls, after several days of bombings, the yanks launch another DA...and got butchered!
Ground combat at Kwajalein Island (132,115)
Allied Deliberate attack
Attacking force 4478 troops, 55 guns, 31 vehicles, Assault Value = 105
Defending force 3948 troops, 49 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61
Allied adjusted assault: 10
Japanese adjusted defense: 50
Allied assault odds: 1 to 5 (fort level 3)
Combat modifiers
Defender: disruption(-), experience(-)
Attacker: fatigue(-)
Japanese ground losses:
102 casualties reported
Squads: 4 destroyed, 1 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 4 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 2 (1 destroyed, 1 disabled)
Allied ground losses:
847 casualties reported
Squads: 10 destroyed, 106 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 8 disabled
Engineers: 1 destroyed, 11 disabled
Guns lost 22 (2 destroyed, 20 disabled)
Vehicles lost 1 (1 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Assaulting units:
37th (Sep) Infantry Regiment
110th Cmbt Engineer Battalion
1/542nd Boat&Shore Engineer Battalion
Defending units:
Maizuru 2nd SNLF
44th Naval Guard Unit
6th Fleet
Nimur Naval Fortress
Kwajalein Base Force
My experience is that when a veteran division loses the bulk of its squads and has to be rebuilt, the flood of new infantry squads will greatly lower it's experience anyways. As it should be.
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RE: Paoshan falls
The spit V is a remarkably disappointing plane from the Allies perspective. Just too damn slow for 1943. (not to mention the lack of any range) The Kittyhawk III is a much better plane but both are bound to suffer at the hands of the George and Frank. I really avoid using the spit V in combat if I can. It just gets your pilots killed and the pool of Australian pilots is very difficult to maintain. He really needs some Jugs at Lae. The P38 is good enough but not really for base defense.
Interesting but with the change to AA in DaBabes my philosophy about defending bases with fighters has changed. I sometimes just load up key bases with AA and pull the fighters out. Unless the base if operating a lot of bombers, I don't fret too much about fighter defense. The AA makes it dangerous enough to Japanese bombers and lessen the effects of their attacks. Sometimes the best defense vs Japanese sweeps is no defense. Depends....
Interesting but with the change to AA in DaBabes my philosophy about defending bases with fighters has changed. I sometimes just load up key bases with AA and pull the fighters out. Unless the base if operating a lot of bombers, I don't fret too much about fighter defense. The AA makes it dangerous enough to Japanese bombers and lessen the effects of their attacks. Sometimes the best defense vs Japanese sweeps is no defense. Depends....
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Sigismund of Luxemburg
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RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: crsutton
Interesting but with the change to AA in DaBabes my philosophy about defending bases with fighters has changed. I sometimes just load up key bases with AA and pull the fighters out. Unless the base if operating a lot of bombers, I don't fret too much about fighter defense. The AA makes it dangerous enough to Japanese bombers and lessen the effects of their attacks. Sometimes the best defense vs Japanese sweeps is no defense. Depends....
This main reason why I give up playing on DaBabes mod
It is not fun at all.-
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RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: crsutton
The spit V is a remarkably disappointing plane from the Allies perspective. Just too damn slow for 1943. (not to mention the lack of any range) The Kittyhawk III is a much better plane but both are bound to suffer at the hands of the George and Frank. I really avoid using the spit V in combat if I can. It just gets your pilots killed and the pool of Australian pilots is very difficult to maintain. He really needs some Jugs at Lae. The P38 is good enough but not really for base defense.
Woot?! [X(] I´ve done very well with the Oz Spits! I use them defensively until the VII comes around and by that time the old V squadrons have a couple of 100 kills and loads of EXP. Some of my best pilots started in the Spit V!
RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
ORIGINAL: crsutton
The spit V is a remarkably disappointing plane from the Allies perspective. Just too damn slow for 1943. (not to mention the lack of any range) The Kittyhawk III is a much better plane but both are bound to suffer at the hands of the George and Frank. I really avoid using the spit V in combat if I can. It just gets your pilots killed and the pool of Australian pilots is very difficult to maintain. He really needs some Jugs at Lae. The P38 is good enough but not really for base defense.
Woot?! [X(] I´ve done very well with the Oz Spits! I use them defensively until the VII comes around and by that time the old V squadrons have a couple of 100 kills and loads of EXP. Some of my best pilots started in the Spit V!
Not my experience but I suppose it depends on your opponents playing style. Mine seems to have them figured out. As far as the game goes I think speed is the biggest factor for fighters. The spit V is quite slow vs mid war Japanese models. It is fine vs the Oscar and zero, but tojos, George and Franks, no way..
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RE: Paoshan falls
Can´t remember really what I did with the Vs. I do remember sending then in whenever I wanted a solid CAP. They did extremely well on defensive CAP. Might have been a EXP thing though.
RE: Paoshan falls
July 23-24, 1943
The allies finally conquer Buin, after two days of intense bombings. Several CLs and BBs bomb the base, along with every bomber (4E, 2E, DB) the allies have in SOPAC. The 32nd ID and the 2nd USMC regiment attack and get a 6-1 which allows them to overcome the 4 forts i have there.
Now they are one hex closer to Rabaul...only 6 hexes... found an SST sub moving to Green Island...hope to catch him on his way before he drops the men...
At Finshhafen Erik sends two MArines regiment and a Indipendent Inf US regiment...but they find here more than what they hoped for[:D]
Ground combat at Finschhafen (100,126)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 7723 troops, 86 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 399
Defending force 21214 troops, 303 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 563
Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Assaulting units:
138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
1st Marine Regiment
7th Marine Regiment
Defending units:
1st Guards Division
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
Combined 8th SNLF
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
15th AA Regiment
107th JAAF AF Bn /1
51st Base Force
9th Field Const Bn /1
Finally we are able to catch something inthe indian Ocean from Diego....
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Addu at 16,52
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 31
G4M1 Betty x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
DD Thracian
DD Le Triomphant, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAP Takliwa, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Chilka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Talma
xAP Khedive Ismail, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Good...this should slow him down a bit there...
In China we bombed Wenchow with 2 BBs and 3 CAs, but the following DA doesn't achieve what we hoped...1-2 and forts still up to 3.... but we will get there!
He also have dropped 2 Indian brigades and 2 indian artillery units at Chungking....mmmmm....need to starve that damned place!
Heavy recon at Wake island... i have a couple of presents for him when he decides to invade here...
The 12th ID (a good one) is moving to Biak, while the 16th is reaching Sarmi. Setting up my second defensive line in the pacific.
The 5th ID reached Singapore from Rangoon. Now it will go to Padang (Sumatra western coast). The 36th ID has reached Benkoleng.
2 SNLF Units are moving to Little Adaman, along with 2 Engineer regiments. Building forts and setting up the defences there.
Another SNLF unit from China is moving to Cocos Is.. More small units are moving to Christmas I.O.
Setting up an anti sub defensive line in the DEI. too many subs are moving from Perth and infiltrating in the DEI...
KI-61 KAI is under RnD from today. 5 factories working with the engine bonus. Have 4 sentais being able to upgrade to it. A very good interceptor (394 mhp and 2x20mm CL). Unfortunately it has a SR of 4, so it needs to be stationed ONLY in very good bases (Rabaul, Rangoon or Port Hedland at the moment).
The allies finally conquer Buin, after two days of intense bombings. Several CLs and BBs bomb the base, along with every bomber (4E, 2E, DB) the allies have in SOPAC. The 32nd ID and the 2nd USMC regiment attack and get a 6-1 which allows them to overcome the 4 forts i have there.
Now they are one hex closer to Rabaul...only 6 hexes... found an SST sub moving to Green Island...hope to catch him on his way before he drops the men...
At Finshhafen Erik sends two MArines regiment and a Indipendent Inf US regiment...but they find here more than what they hoped for[:D]
Ground combat at Finschhafen (100,126)
Allied Bombardment attack
Attacking force 7723 troops, 86 guns, 29 vehicles, Assault Value = 399
Defending force 21214 troops, 303 guns, 73 vehicles, Assault Value = 563
Allied ground losses:
140 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 10 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 2 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Guns lost 3 (1 destroyed, 2 disabled)
Assaulting units:
138th(Sep) Infantry Regiment
1st Marine Regiment
7th Marine Regiment
Defending units:
1st Guards Division
Maizuru 3rd SNLF
Combined 8th SNLF
Botanko Hvy Gun Regiment
15th AA Regiment
107th JAAF AF Bn /1
51st Base Force
9th Field Const Bn /1
Finally we are able to catch something inthe indian Ocean from Diego....
Afternoon Air attack on TF, near Addu at 16,52
Weather in hex: Overcast
Raid spotted at 20 NM, estimated altitude 14,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 7 minutes
Japanese aircraft
G3M3 Nell x 31
G4M1 Betty x 32
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed by flak
Allied Ships
DD Thracian
DD Le Triomphant, Torpedo hits 1, heavy damage
xAP Takliwa, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk
xAP Chilka, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
xAP Talma
xAP Khedive Ismail, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
Allied ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Squads: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Non Combat: 11 destroyed, 12 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 0 disabled
Vehicles lost 8 (4 destroyed, 4 disabled)
Good...this should slow him down a bit there...
In China we bombed Wenchow with 2 BBs and 3 CAs, but the following DA doesn't achieve what we hoped...1-2 and forts still up to 3.... but we will get there!
He also have dropped 2 Indian brigades and 2 indian artillery units at Chungking....mmmmm....need to starve that damned place!
Heavy recon at Wake island... i have a couple of presents for him when he decides to invade here...
The 12th ID (a good one) is moving to Biak, while the 16th is reaching Sarmi. Setting up my second defensive line in the pacific.
The 5th ID reached Singapore from Rangoon. Now it will go to Padang (Sumatra western coast). The 36th ID has reached Benkoleng.
2 SNLF Units are moving to Little Adaman, along with 2 Engineer regiments. Building forts and setting up the defences there.
Another SNLF unit from China is moving to Cocos Is.. More small units are moving to Christmas I.O.
Setting up an anti sub defensive line in the DEI. too many subs are moving from Perth and infiltrating in the DEI...
KI-61 KAI is under RnD from today. 5 factories working with the engine bonus. Have 4 sentais being able to upgrade to it. A very good interceptor (394 mhp and 2x20mm CL). Unfortunately it has a SR of 4, so it needs to be stationed ONLY in very good bases (Rabaul, Rangoon or Port Hedland at the moment).
RE: Paoshan falls
ORIGINAL: JocMeister
Can´t remember really what I did with the Vs. I do remember sending then in whenever I wanted a solid CAP. They did extremely well on defensive CAP. Might have been a EXP thing though.
In the DBB air mode, the spit V is too slow to be able to stand the N1K1. However it is a good fighter and, against the Zeros, can be very effective.
For what concerns CAP, Erik is very meticulous not to let me catch with my sweeps his leaking CAP...so, 3 times out of 4, my sweeps find only thin air...