I like that there is still plenty hidden under the hood, such as pilot training. Allows for more varied styles of play.
Enjoying the AAR DOCUP. Keep up the good work.
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Zulu, yes we shot down 12 zeros but at a cost of around 30 of ours. I'm not happy with that ratio. Try to do a mass fighter ambush. That's what mine was.
Gray
I didn't think you were being authoratative in any way.
Grunt welcome and thanks. Yes I agree with you about the hidden games or mini games, that AE has. I would like to
have a little bit of control of production. Maybe the next one.
As to all thanks for posting, keep it coming.
So Im at work it's a little slow. I'm thinking about were I want to put those P38s. My thoughts are as followed.
DEI
Reasons: make him really pay for it. The Dutch will get some P40Es and Hurris in 2 months. I will also be able to push in some Am P40s. There are RRs around so I can move them around if I have to. When the end comes I can bring them down to Oz.
Burma
reason: I think a safer area for them, with just as much oppurtunity to kill Japs. RR are all over the place for rapid movements. There will be
Hurris and what not in the AO. When the time comes fall back to India. Cons the only Am sqd in the area is slated for china, with half baked pilots. I can pull them back to the oven and cook them longer but I would be taxing my reserves then. I can send a sqd over now and it will take 40 or so days to get to Cape Town.
Just found out today that my best ASW pilots are in the Indian AF and they don't have much to work with in the way of planes. I do have a few Kiwis that are good in ASW they are now heading to a sqd with Hudson LRs at Suva. By the time I get some naval vessels with decent ASW assets, I should have some well trained pilots.
FYI I have converted 10 DDs into APDs. I will convert the rest to DEs. I really hate his subs, i do have to say his subs haven't been that bad.
Gray
I didn't think you were being authoratative in any way.
Grunt welcome and thanks. Yes I agree with you about the hidden games or mini games, that AE has. I would like to
have a little bit of control of production. Maybe the next one.
As to all thanks for posting, keep it coming.
So Im at work it's a little slow. I'm thinking about were I want to put those P38s. My thoughts are as followed.
DEI
Reasons: make him really pay for it. The Dutch will get some P40Es and Hurris in 2 months. I will also be able to push in some Am P40s. There are RRs around so I can move them around if I have to. When the end comes I can bring them down to Oz.
Burma
reason: I think a safer area for them, with just as much oppurtunity to kill Japs. RR are all over the place for rapid movements. There will be
Hurris and what not in the AO. When the time comes fall back to India. Cons the only Am sqd in the area is slated for china, with half baked pilots. I can pull them back to the oven and cook them longer but I would be taxing my reserves then. I can send a sqd over now and it will take 40 or so days to get to Cape Town.
Just found out today that my best ASW pilots are in the Indian AF and they don't have much to work with in the way of planes. I do have a few Kiwis that are good in ASW they are now heading to a sqd with Hudson LRs at Suva. By the time I get some naval vessels with decent ASW assets, I should have some well trained pilots.
FYI I have converted 10 DDs into APDs. I will convert the rest to DEs. I really hate his subs, i do have to say his subs haven't been that bad.
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Doc, thanks for the feedback on pilot training was good to know. As for the P38's, my thoughts (as scattered as they are, LOL), would be the burma theatre using them to harrass and cover the retreat to India.
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Xnavy: your welcome, I'm leaning more towards Burma also. What does the ET1 (SS) stand for?
16th Jan
KB between Ambon and Kendri
MKB just left Solomon area
PI
I guess my guys fell asleep on guard duty. He did a bombardment attack to wake them up. Mac spilt his coffee all over his freshly pressed shirt and was pissed.
Singers
A sad day. Singers fell today. It was a brave fight they inflicted 2,300 casualties before being overran.
DEI
Kendri and Bolea was invaded. KB sent a 103 val raid on Ambon. Wish I would of had my 3 fighter flying for that one. I guess I messed up his Zeros a little. I had O19 send a fish at one of the DDs in the KB TF. So DEI will soon be cut off from Oz and only chance of anything will come from the Indian Ocean. Supplys will be the only thing if any is sent here. I will prob try and evac the air units at the last second possible.
Nothing else is really going on besides logistic stuff.
16th Jan
KB between Ambon and Kendri
MKB just left Solomon area
PI
I guess my guys fell asleep on guard duty. He did a bombardment attack to wake them up. Mac spilt his coffee all over his freshly pressed shirt and was pissed.
Singers
A sad day. Singers fell today. It was a brave fight they inflicted 2,300 casualties before being overran.
DEI
Kendri and Bolea was invaded. KB sent a 103 val raid on Ambon. Wish I would of had my 3 fighter flying for that one. I guess I messed up his Zeros a little. I had O19 send a fish at one of the DDs in the KB TF. So DEI will soon be cut off from Oz and only chance of anything will come from the Indian Ocean. Supplys will be the only thing if any is sent here. I will prob try and evac the air units at the last second possible.
Nothing else is really going on besides logistic stuff.
RE: Want some candy, come inside
1. O-19 and O-20 are the Dutch minelaying subs. You might want to carefully assess whether they are best used dropping mines or trying to torpedo the enemy and in turn be subjected to a much higher risk of being sunk by Japanese ASW efforts.
2. The Lightnings are best employed in sweep missions. Hence move them to the theatre where you will be conducting the bulk of your sweeps.
3. Better to err on the side of evacuating your air from DEI early rather than late.
4. Try to save one of your Dutch fighter squadrons to allow for fighter pilot training. One of the 1943 Dutch bomber units which actually arrives under RAAF command can actually be converted to use the Australian Kittyhawk IV fighter.
Alfred
2. The Lightnings are best employed in sweep missions. Hence move them to the theatre where you will be conducting the bulk of your sweeps.
3. Better to err on the side of evacuating your air from DEI early rather than late.
4. Try to save one of your Dutch fighter squadrons to allow for fighter pilot training. One of the 1943 Dutch bomber units which actually arrives under RAAF command can actually be converted to use the Australian Kittyhawk IV fighter.
Alfred
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I lost three Dutch subs riding anchor in port, just a word from the effected, time the re arms carefully[;)]
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Alfred, you are right about the minelaying subs. I took a chance. So sweeps are best for the P38s. Hmm. Ok I will pull them out before it's to late and I was going to try and keep a sqd or 2 alive. While I'm talking about I'm goin to try and pull out the BFs with the 100 av support. Thanks as always Alfred.
Zulu oh do I know what a port strike can do to subs.
17th Jan
KB next to Ternate
MKB location unknown
DEI
Kendri and Boela fell today. Subs (Dutch and S boats) are all around the KB.
China
shock attack at the dot base above Chengchow. We lost 365 to his 1200. He has 3 ID and 1 IR there. My forts are down to 1.
Quiet turn.
Zulu oh do I know what a port strike can do to subs.
17th Jan
KB next to Ternate
MKB location unknown
DEI
Kendri and Boela fell today. Subs (Dutch and S boats) are all around the KB.
China
shock attack at the dot base above Chengchow. We lost 365 to his 1200. He has 3 ID and 1 IR there. My forts are down to 1.
Quiet turn.
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ORIGINAL: Alfred
1. O-19 and O-20 are the Dutch minelaying subs. You might want to carefully assess whether they are best used dropping mines or trying to torpedo the enemy and in turn be subjected to a much higher risk of being sunk by Japanese ASW efforts.
another sticky note.
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ORIGINAL: Alfred
1. O-19 and O-20 are the Dutch minelaying subs. You might want to carefully assess whether they are best used dropping mines or trying to torpedo the enemy and in turn be subjected to a much higher risk of being sunk by Japanese ASW efforts.
2. The Lightnings are best employed in sweep missions. Hence move them to the theatre where you will be conducting the bulk of your sweeps.
3. Better to err on the side of evacuating your air from DEI early rather than late.
4. Try to save one of your Dutch fighter squadrons to allow for fighter pilot training. One of the 1943 Dutch bomber units which actually arrives under RAAF command can actually be converted to use the Australian Kittyhawk IV fighter.
Alfred
That I could see Alfred the Dutch are static restricted .. where to evacuate them to? I did find that the fact the Dutch subs torps actually work to cause my IJ opponet to really slow down his operations. It only took a couple of hits and every movement had to be screened. .. Just a thought ..
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"
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18th Jan
KB Ternate
MKB Rabual
Solomons
Japs landed on Rabaul and Shortlands. I am sending a small CL TF in at nite to hit his ships if they are still there.
Else where nothing. Just moving stuff along. More later when I wake up.
KB Ternate
MKB Rabual
Solomons
Japs landed on Rabaul and Shortlands. I am sending a small CL TF in at nite to hit his ships if they are still there.
Else where nothing. Just moving stuff along. More later when I wake up.
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Damn in my sleepyness, I accidentlly went into Koniu's thread. I sent him an email telling him of what I did and that I didn't look. I panicked and xed out of the screen. So thats a heck of an update for you all. My stupid screw up. I will keep you all updated with what he says. I will now go to bed.
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Ok, talked to Koniu and he is cool with what happpened.
19th Jan
KB Kendri
MKB Rabaul
Solomons
Rabaul and Shortlands fall.
DEI
I must of scared him during the night phase. Three Hudsons on nav att at night targetted one of his carriers, but they all missed.
Wake
Best single day of the airwar for the Allies. Seven P40Bs engaged 24 Nells and shot down 14 and 2 more down ops. Love it
Bombardment attacks all over. He lost close to 600 to my 5 at Bataan. He did do a delib attack at the dot base north of Chengchow both lost around 1,000 men each.
19th Jan
KB Kendri
MKB Rabaul
Solomons
Rabaul and Shortlands fall.
DEI
I must of scared him during the night phase. Three Hudsons on nav att at night targetted one of his carriers, but they all missed.
Wake
Best single day of the airwar for the Allies. Seven P40Bs engaged 24 Nells and shot down 14 and 2 more down ops. Love it
Bombardment attacks all over. He lost close to 600 to my 5 at Bataan. He did do a delib attack at the dot base north of Chengchow both lost around 1,000 men each.
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Lets talk about my plans.
China
Defensive war. I am pulling back to cities or rough hexs around the cities. I am fighting for Chengchow, Dot base above Chengchow, and Kukong. I will prob lose the dot base soon. I have no hope of keeping Chenchow or the surrounding bases. I want to make him earn his victories. I do see atleast one unit leaving the Chengchow hex. I am looking weak spots in his lines that I can drive thru and cause trouble. At this point I am only looking for hit and run ops. Unless I feel that I can come out ahead of a nasty battle. HMM will that happen in China. But I am doing recon of areas to see whats in certain bases.
So I have alot of troops around Changsha, and Chengchow. I am moveing more towards Sian and in the general are of Nanning.
I just traded in the modified P40Bs for actual P40Bs in the 3 AVG sqd. So the other squadron will get those airframes and be able to come back online. Soon I will have some P39s and B26s. I don't know if I will leave them in Burma/India or move them into China. I might move them in and out. To much bombing from China will eat up alot of supply.
Speaking of which I am trying to push some towards China from Rangoon and its not doing so well. More later its time to spend time with the FU oh I mean the Finance Unit.
China
Defensive war. I am pulling back to cities or rough hexs around the cities. I am fighting for Chengchow, Dot base above Chengchow, and Kukong. I will prob lose the dot base soon. I have no hope of keeping Chenchow or the surrounding bases. I want to make him earn his victories. I do see atleast one unit leaving the Chengchow hex. I am looking weak spots in his lines that I can drive thru and cause trouble. At this point I am only looking for hit and run ops. Unless I feel that I can come out ahead of a nasty battle. HMM will that happen in China. But I am doing recon of areas to see whats in certain bases.
So I have alot of troops around Changsha, and Chengchow. I am moveing more towards Sian and in the general are of Nanning.
I just traded in the modified P40Bs for actual P40Bs in the 3 AVG sqd. So the other squadron will get those airframes and be able to come back online. Soon I will have some P39s and B26s. I don't know if I will leave them in Burma/India or move them into China. I might move them in and out. To much bombing from China will eat up alot of supply.
Speaking of which I am trying to push some towards China from Rangoon and its not doing so well. More later its time to spend time with the FU oh I mean the Finance Unit.
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20th Jan
KB West of Kendri
MKB Rabaul area
Wake
My P40s get 11 more Nells with no losses.
DEI
KB hits a CL TF. I figure he will try and finish it off next turn. He didn't have any zeros flying with his strike package. I find that weird. I broke th TF down to ships with the same speed and I'm sending out some useless TFs to try and draw off some of his planes. I will try and LRCAP the withdrawing ships. I will try night nav and torpedo attacks if he comes within range.
China
He delib attack the dot base above Chengchow again. He lost 1,000 to my 500. Forts are back to 1. I am trying to send reinforcements here now.
PI
Koniu attacked my base (I will get the name for you all when I get home) on Mindinaou (sp). He lost 500 to my 4.
I am pleased with my ground troops. I will post more later.
KB West of Kendri
MKB Rabaul area
Wake
My P40s get 11 more Nells with no losses.
DEI
KB hits a CL TF. I figure he will try and finish it off next turn. He didn't have any zeros flying with his strike package. I find that weird. I broke th TF down to ships with the same speed and I'm sending out some useless TFs to try and draw off some of his planes. I will try and LRCAP the withdrawing ships. I will try night nav and torpedo attacks if he comes within range.
China
He delib attack the dot base above Chengchow again. He lost 1,000 to my 500. Forts are back to 1. I am trying to send reinforcements here now.
PI
Koniu attacked my base (I will get the name for you all when I get home) on Mindinaou (sp). He lost 500 to my 4.
I am pleased with my ground troops. I will post more later.
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22nd Jan
KB Makassar
MKB Woodlark Is
Interesting turn for subs. I sunk an AK he sunk a TK and xAP. Seawolf attacked 3 diffent ships this turn. But nothing went boom. I 57 attacked 3 differnt ships also but sunk 2 of them. Never seen one sub attack 2 ships in one turn let alone 3.
DEI
No follow on attacks from the KB.
SoPac
MKB might be heading towards Oz to do some raiding. I have 65 P40Es with green pilots waiting. I kinda hope he does. I don't expect much from the green P40s but I do have 2 CV TFs moving around in that area. It wouldn't take much for me to get them into range. I can even produce 2 small SAGs as bait. If he continues towards Oz next turn I will bait the trap. Before you ask Intel has this TF with 33 fighters 50 bombers and 50 aux with 9 ships. Will stand by and wait for things to develop.
Quiet turn.
KB Makassar
MKB Woodlark Is
Interesting turn for subs. I sunk an AK he sunk a TK and xAP. Seawolf attacked 3 diffent ships this turn. But nothing went boom. I 57 attacked 3 differnt ships also but sunk 2 of them. Never seen one sub attack 2 ships in one turn let alone 3.
DEI
No follow on attacks from the KB.
SoPac
MKB might be heading towards Oz to do some raiding. I have 65 P40Es with green pilots waiting. I kinda hope he does. I don't expect much from the green P40s but I do have 2 CV TFs moving around in that area. It wouldn't take much for me to get them into range. I can even produce 2 small SAGs as bait. If he continues towards Oz next turn I will bait the trap. Before you ask Intel has this TF with 33 fighters 50 bombers and 50 aux with 9 ships. Will stand by and wait for things to develop.
Quiet turn.
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My thoughts on Burma
Rangoon has lv 3 forts at 13% with 780 AV. I plan a fighting withdraw in the area. I am worried that he will be able to flank me or drop troops behind Rangoon. I combat troops in all the bases but those in open terrain he can bomb to death. I have 2 more Hurri sqds coming in, when those get operational, I will move the 3 Hurri sqd to Rangoon and open up the air war again.
I have supply everywhere but where I want it. I still haven't figured out how to push it to China. But its not all a bad thing the bases up north in the jungle have 2 or 3k of supply. I will need this when I start to fall back so I will leave it and stockpile more.
He is reconing all the bases in the area. He hasn't made it to Tavoy yet, but he is ground bombing open terrain bases.
Rangoon has lv 3 forts at 13% with 780 AV. I plan a fighting withdraw in the area. I am worried that he will be able to flank me or drop troops behind Rangoon. I combat troops in all the bases but those in open terrain he can bomb to death. I have 2 more Hurri sqds coming in, when those get operational, I will move the 3 Hurri sqd to Rangoon and open up the air war again.
I have supply everywhere but where I want it. I still haven't figured out how to push it to China. But its not all a bad thing the bases up north in the jungle have 2 or 3k of supply. I will need this when I start to fall back so I will leave it and stockpile more.
He is reconing all the bases in the area. He hasn't made it to Tavoy yet, but he is ground bombing open terrain bases.
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Have you gone through each Chinese city and turned off factory repairs? Will save your supply for combat ops.
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even if not damaged?
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Grunt, yes I turned all of it off on the first turn. It's a PITA.
Zulu, I don't know.
23rd Jan
KB between Makassar and Kendri
MKB unknown
PI
Bombing Bataan
DEI
Pburg, AV 484[:D] Nice air battle over Pburg today. Koniu swept with Zeros, my guys were having tea at the time. He came in later with Zeros and Sallys, 8 Sallys went down. PM phase he came in with Zeros and Lilly's, 5 of them didn't make it home. I lost 3 B339s and 1 Buff. I have a new ace today. I now have 5 of them[&o].
SoPac
Lost the MKB. I am looking for it with everything I have in the area.
Singers
I see an amphib fleet forming up now. Is he coming to Pburg, Burma or somewhere over the rainbow.
Zulu, I don't know.
23rd Jan
KB between Makassar and Kendri
MKB unknown
PI
Bombing Bataan
DEI
Pburg, AV 484[:D] Nice air battle over Pburg today. Koniu swept with Zeros, my guys were having tea at the time. He came in later with Zeros and Sallys, 8 Sallys went down. PM phase he came in with Zeros and Lilly's, 5 of them didn't make it home. I lost 3 B339s and 1 Buff. I have a new ace today. I now have 5 of them[&o].
SoPac
Lost the MKB. I am looking for it with everything I have in the area.
Singers
I see an amphib fleet forming up now. Is he coming to Pburg, Burma or somewhere over the rainbow.
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Go get 'em Docup!
One thing I did was to establish bases in India and prepared my LB's to hit him once Ragoon fell. Those open terrain hexes are murder on armor moving in teh open. It slowed the Burma advance considerably and although Burma fell ... he had to comitt more troops and the delay set into the Monsoon season where next year the roles will be reversed.
The other thing .. have you thought about where to draw the line and where you will engage yet mid '42?
One thing I did was to establish bases in India and prepared my LB's to hit him once Ragoon fell. Those open terrain hexes are murder on armor moving in teh open. It slowed the Burma advance considerably and although Burma fell ... he had to comitt more troops and the delay set into the Monsoon season where next year the roles will be reversed.
The other thing .. have you thought about where to draw the line and where you will engage yet mid '42?
"What gets us into trouble is not what we don't know. It's what we know for sure that just ain't so"