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F9F-2 should not able to do supercruise.

Its max speed should smaller than 500kt.

http://www.joebaugher.com/navy_fighters/f9_2.html
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I don't think TGC Yavuz/SMS Goeben ever had radar, perhaps a search set but not the elaborate fire control suite it has here.
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F-84B/C/E/G should not have same maximum speed as F-84F. (Straight-wing vs Swept-wing)
And they should not have afterburner. (Since F-94 is the first one with afterburner.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_F-84_Thunderjet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_F ... nderstreak



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F-80 should not able to do supercruise. (590kt = 1.03M)

F-80A/B should < 485kt
F-80C should < 515kt

http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p80_4.html
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/p80_6.html
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F-89D/H/J should be not able to fly over 1 Mach. (F-100 should be the first one?)

Max speed should be smaller than 552kt.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northrop_F-89_Scorpion
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F4D has too fast max speed (900kt.)
Its max speed should smaller than 627kt.

400kt loiter speed is also strange. (Same as SR-71 in CMANO.)


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_F4D_Skyray
http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F4D-1_ ... y_1954.pdf
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F7U should have afterburner.
And it maximum speed and loiter speed also need some modification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F7U#Specif ... 8F7U-3M.29
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Operator of Buccaneer S.2A should be RAF instead of FAA.

Mig-15Bis should not have afterburner and its maximum speed need modification.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gu ... G-15bis.29
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20mm M3 Single mount on new A-1 Skyraiders
20mm M3 Single [20 rnds] -> Typo? Should be 200 rnds per mount.

20mm MG-151 on Avia S-199, Hispano Aviacion HA-1112, and Messerschmitt Bf 109 G-6 should not use weapon record "20mm M197 Burst [25 rnds]"
At least, 30x burst is too much. 20mm MG-151 should have 200 round per mount, so it has 8x 25 round burst.

"20mm Cannon" on LaGG-3, MiG-3, Pe-2M Buck has 30x "20mm M197 Burst [25 rnds]"

LaGG-3 use 20 mm ShVAK Cannon with 120~160 round, that is 6~8x 20rnd burst.
http://www.ww2warbirds.net/ww2htmls/lagglagg3.html
http://www.battle-fields.com/commscentr ... k-LaGG-MiG

Mig-3 should use 1x 12.7mm + 2x 7.62mm
http://mig3.sovietwarplanes.com/mig3/guns.html

Pe-2M should use 3*20mm B-20 520rpg
http://www.ctrl-c.liu.se/misc/ram/pe-2m.html


RF-84 has 45x "12.7mm/50 MG x 4 Burst [100 rnds]"
I don't have exact number, but 300rpg is more reasonable.
So, it should be 12x "12.7mm/50 MG x 4 Burst [100 rnds]"

CF-100 Mk 3 has 45x "12.7mm/50 MG x 4 Burst [100 rnds]"
It should be 200 round per gun. So, 8x burst.
http://books.google.com.tw/books?id=DM5 ... nd&f=false

SUU-23/A on RAF Phantom II should have 12x 100rnds burst instead of 24x 100rnds burst
http://www.harpoondatabases.com/encyclo ... y2417.aspx
http://books.google.com.tw/books?id=sOp ... nd&f=false

SUU-16/A on F-4C has 225x 100rnds burst. (!)
Should be 12x 100rnds
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F9F-2 should not able to do supercruise.

Its max speed should smaller than 500kt.

http://www.joebaugher.com/navy_fighters/f9_2.html
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ORIGINAL: fool12342000

F-84B/C/E/G should not have same maximum speed as F-84F. (Straight-wing vs Swept-wing)
And they should not have afterburner. (Since F-94 is the first one with afterburner.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_F-84_Thunderjet
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_F ... nderstreak



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One aircraft that was around until 1949, was the B-19 (well, XB-19). It was never put into production, but it might have been. It was by far the largest aircraft in existence until the B-36. It would be interesting to see it in the CWDB.[;)]
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MiG-9's max speed should smaller than 494kt instead of 565kt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-9


MiG-3's max speed should smaller than 346kt instead of 410kt.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-3

(kt/mph conversion ?)
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MiG-17 should equip VK-1 engine. (No afterburner)
Only after MiG-17F introduced, it got VK-1F with afterburner.
And it is not a supersonic fighter. Need to lower max speed.

Mig-17 should be Fresco A instead of Fresco B.

http://www.mig17.com/Specifications.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mikoyan-Gurevich_MiG-17
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MiG-19's military speed should be 520kt (To match J-6's specs in DB3K.)
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F3D's maximum speed should smaller than 460kt instead of 900kt.
And it has no afterburner.

F-10A/F-10B should be Fighter instead of Electronic Warfare

http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/F3D-2_ ... y_1952.pdf
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FJ-1 should not able to do supercruise.
Its max speed should smaller than 510kt

http://www.alternatewars.com/SAC/FJ-1_F ... y_1949.pdf

It seems FJ-1 have same spec with FJ-2 in CWDB400. (Length, height, and weight)
But they are different plane. (Straight wing vs Sweep wing.)
FJ-1 should not have same agility as FJ-2(2.5).
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F3H is not a supersonic jet.
So, its max speed should be much lower. (<563kt instead of 900kt.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_ ... 28F3H-2.29
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The B-70 has a tail gun that I've never seen any mention of in actual proposals, and it should be removed.
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