Can an Allied Player Win the Game?

[Platoonist]

We must all be lonely men....we're hanging out here aren't we? [:D]

I'm wondering if anyone has every heard of a gal named 'Topsy'? That code name just throws me.

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

ORIGINAL: Feinder

You know, because of WitP I can never date a girl named Kate, Betty, Val (Who the Hell is named Val these days), Sally, or Nell. Oh well.

Why wouldn't you?! You know they go down alot...[:D]

Did I say that? That was uncouth. Shhhhh.

-F-

You know, I never thought of that. So, I guess I should date a girl named Betty, and be a Wildcat with her? [:D]

I crack me up.

Every girl I've dated with the name Cindy/Cynthia/Cindie has never "FAILED TO PLEASE"! Try it out!! Weird but true. I always have a sort of knowing smirk show on my face when a women is introduced with that name.[;)]

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: Platoonist

We must all be lonely men....we're hanging out here aren't we? [:D]

I'm wondering if anyone has every heard of a gal named 'Topsy'? That code name just throws me.

She is the big breasted sister of Tipsy, the slut of the family.

[ColFrost]

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I don't think the game is bad, I love it. But my main gripes with it (teleporting troops, leader bugs, etc) cannot be fixed by modders, without the source code.

PLus, I do think its a little odd the the people trying to sort it all out aren't even paid (pry, Mogami, Mr. Frag, Nikademus, etc), whereas the guys that made the game and can fix the problems the quickest are silent.

I love WitP. I just want to make sure it gets fixed, so that I can keep loving it. None of us have made it into '45 yet. I'd hate to think they pull the plug, then we all get to '45, and nothing works (We already know they shipped the game with the Ohka not working, what else is broken?).

Everyone has done an immense job on the game, and I for one (who has also done a lot of work on it, with modding) don't want to see there labor wasted because everyone gets to the point where they can't/won't play the game with bugs.

Simply put, they had better suck it up and fix what modders can't fix or release the code. We are well beyond the days of travelling snakeoil salesmen who sell snot touted as oysters and skedaddle out of town before the duped realize it. In a niche market like this there are not enough one horse towns which can be screwed and still draw a crowd in front of your gawdily painted wagon.

Mr. Saueracker,

Are you that dismayed with the product?

[RUPD3658]

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

Now that you mention it, I did have a crush on a girl named Valerie... Maybe if I said "My lovely Type 99 Carrier attack plane, will you go out with me?"

I am alonely man.... [:D]

Now if she replies "Oh my big strong Avenger.. is that a torpedo in your bay or are you just glad to see me"? you are doing well. [X(]

[Tankerace]

Hrm.... looks lie I'm now armed with some good pickup lines. I'd laugh myself to death if one of them actually worked.

[freeboy]

did thios thread stay on track for any pages? just curious.. I have played dec 7 both sides pbem, and after 10 42 the odds go way over to the allies, so my thoughts are .. yew the allie4s can win.. if the Jap doesn't win out right in 42 by taking china or oz or india

[Tankerace]

WTF are you doing... this isn't a thread about Witp, its about dating chics named after bombers [:D]

[Platoonist]

Interesting piece of trivia. The convention at the time was to give male names to fighters and female names to bombers. The male name "Francis" was originally assigned to the Kugisho P1Y1. The aircraft was at first reported to be a nimble and fast twin-engine heavy fighter. When it was realized that the P1Y1 was actually a bomber, the spelling of the name was changed to the more feminine spelling of "Frances".

Of course, anything with the word 'France' in it deserves to be blown out of the sky. [:D]

[Ron Saueracker]

ORIGINAL: ColFrost

ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

I don't think the game is bad, I love it. But my main gripes with it (teleporting troops, leader bugs, etc) cannot be fixed by modders, without the source code.

PLus, I do think its a little odd the the people trying to sort it all out aren't even paid (pry, Mogami, Mr. Frag, Nikademus, etc), whereas the guys that made the game and can fix the problems the quickest are silent.

I love WitP. I just want to make sure it gets fixed, so that I can keep loving it. None of us have made it into '45 yet. I'd hate to think they pull the plug, then we all get to '45, and nothing works (We already know they shipped the game with the Ohka not working, what else is broken?).

Everyone has done an immense job on the game, and I for one (who has also done a lot of work on it, with modding) don't want to see there labor wasted because everyone gets to the point where they can't/won't play the game with bugs.

Simply put, they had better suck it up and fix what modders can't fix or release the code. We are well beyond the days of travelling snakeoil salesmen who sell snot touted as oysters and skedaddle out of town before the duped realize it. In a niche market like this there are not enough one horse towns which can be screwed and still draw a crowd in front of your gawdily painted wagon.

Mr. Saueracker,

Are you that dismayed with the product?

At the moment, yes. I really hope they realize that WITP is huge and needs more support than anything they may have worked on in the past. Simply, and this is my opinion, it is not a completed product and was released prematurely. Finish it, work with the community to tweak it, and then all is well. No biggie.

[hithere]

[quote]ORIGINAL: dtravel

All of the following is IMHO:

I don't think it is so much that WiTP was released early. I think that Mr. Grigsby had basically written the game some years ago (others have compared it to a slightly spiffyed up PacWar) and was not willing to let anything get changed.



Funny you should say that…there was a game released in the mid 90's that looked EACTLY like Uncommon Valor. I believe it was called "south pacific" but I am at work now and can not look for the box. same map, same unit symbols, same screens. It was un canny. I showed it to a friend of mine who had UV also because he did not believe me (hi E8flier). I believe it even had GG in the credits.

[hithere]

ORIGINAL: hithere

ORIGINAL: dtravel

All of the following is IMHO:

I don't think it is so much that WiTP was released early. I think that Mr. Grigsby had basically written the game some years ago (others have compared it to a slightly spiffyed up PacWar) and was not willing to let anything get changed.

Funny you should say that…there was a game released in the mid 90's that looked EACTLY like Uncommon Valor. I believe it was called "south pacific" but I am at work now and can not look for the box. same map, same unit symbols, same screens. It was un canny. I showed it to a friend of mine who had UV also because he did not believe me (hi E8flier). I believe it even had GG in the credits.

[mlees]

I was impressed with this advice and am goin to try it in my game vs the AI. My Dakotas need to fly from Ledo to reach the nearest Chinese city. I currently have 60 Dakotas there moving about (I'm guesstimating) 10 supply points per aircraft that fly. I have more Dakotas on the way from Australia and the U.S. I expect to have, eventually, 100 more transports based there.

The problem I foresee, is that Ledo runs out of the supplies I want to give China. When I started, Ledo had 12,000 on hand. It's now down to 7,000 after a week of operations. If the computer doesn't send supplies forward to Ledo, I don't know what to do, as I can't send a supply TF to Ledo. I have 150,000 supply points in Chandpur, and 999,999 in Karachi, all connected to Ledo via rail. Comments?

[tsimmonds]

Put your area command HQ in Ledo. It will draw supply in an effort to keep an additional 25,000 supply in the hex.

[mlees]

(Smacks forehead)

[2ndACR]

No the Allies can not win the war. They will be ground to dust under the ever victorious Japanese forces.

All the ships, troops, aircraft they recieve will not help them in the end. They are doomed from the start to be destroyed.

The REAL Japanese were just stupid people who did not understand how to wage war.[:-]

[mlees]

I have only hung around this forum for about two months, or so, but I've come to respect some of the posters, who's names/avatars I see repeatadly as being experienced players.
Yours is one of them. You seem to prefer playing the Japanese.

Who do you think is among the better Allied players?

(PM if you think naming names and leaving out others is too rude...)

[mogami]

Hi, If I ever lose a game of WITP as the Allies I will shave my butt. I don't think there is a single historical scenario that the Allies can lose. The fun of being Japan is not winning the war it's causing the Allied player moments of doubt.

[2ndACR]

You have to try real hard to lose as the Allies. Of course now that Russia has been proven as winable in the short term, all those divisions freed up in Manchuria will cause some problems.

[mogami]

Hi, OK it is well known I have been away so I am not up to date in all matters. I think before I left I pointed out that under then current rules it was better for the Japanese to make a major effort against the Soviets and then release forces against China. (rather then attacking in China to free forces)

I don't really want more code that restricts the Japanese but if people forget the game is really about the USA versus Japan and allow the Japanese to ignore this then the game gets screwy.

In testing I had games where Japan attacked the Soviets and the USA sent airgroups and land units to Russia and not the South Pacific. While the Allies were hard pressed what occured was USA bombers in range of Japan in 1943. There are no magic stratey that win for Japan. The Allied player as always just has to refrain commiting forces before he understands the Japanese plan. As the Allies you just have to remain calm, take your time and not allow the Japanese to overwhelm you. Of course the fun a Japan is doing this in spite of the odds.