Banzais Don't Make Victories - Anachro (A) vs John 3rd (J) BTS 5.7

[JohnDillworth]

ORIGINAL: Bearcat2

I am not sure what the 4 Aso class CVL's are supposed to represent; all the CVL's built by the Japanese had little deck armor. The Aso's get armor[75-50-0], 36 planes, 33kt at 12,000t, the Zuiho's get no armor[5-5-0] with 31 planes, 28kt at 11262t.

I think that is an excellent question to ask of John III over in the mod section. BTW, I believe they convert to full size CV's, keep the deck armor, and sprout another 30 aircraft for a total of 60

[BBfanboy]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

ORIGINAL: Bearcat2

I am not sure what the 4 Aso class CVL's are supposed to represent; all the CVL's built by the Japanese had little deck armor. The Aso's get armor[75-50-0], 36 planes, 33kt at 12,000t, the Zuiho's get no armor[5-5-0] with 31 planes, 28kt at 11262t.

I think that is an excellent question to ask of John III over in the mod section. BTW, I believe they convert to full size CV's, keep the deck armor, and sprout another 30 aircraft for a total of 60

They just put a huge canvas tent over the flight deck and keep a full strike of 30 aircraft on deck at all times. Pilots have to be trained in tunnel landings.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: BBfanboy
Pilots have to be trained in tunnel landings.

Sounds kinky. [X(]

[Bearcat2]

ORIGINAL: JohnDillworth

ORIGINAL: Bearcat2

I am not sure what the 4 Aso class CVL's are supposed to represent; all the CVL's built by the Japanese had little deck armor. The Aso's get armor[75-50-0], 36 planes, 33kt at 12,000t, the Zuiho's get no armor[5-5-0] with 31 planes, 28kt at 11262t.

I think that is an excellent question to ask of John III over in the mod section. BTW, I believe they convert to full size CV's, keep the deck armor, and sprout another 30 aircraft for a total of 60

Different carrier, those are the G6's [140-60-100] 30planes, 35kts at 14,500t that convert to CV's [140-65-50] 63planes 32kts at 15900

[obvert]

ORIGINAL: Anachro

Surely the CVL Aso is very heavily damaged, right? It's taken quite the punishment the last few days.

Even though the hits didn't penetrate, the fires may continue to burn, and that will affect system damage significantly. The size of port and amount of naval support will influence too how much it burns and for how long.

Bring more subs in to retreat paths while your CVs refuel and keep recon on the base if you can. Even some night strikes by long range aircraft could be useful.

[Anachro]

Did I mention I have a Chinese army in India? [:D] I won't post much on future invasion plans here until they happen as I worry about opsec given the attention this thread has gotten. We also have our heavy bombers in India systematically bringing airfields in Burma up to 100% damage to affect John's supply there. We haven't struck Rangoon yet given its heavy CAP and our fighters not yet being in range to sweep.

[JohnDillworth]

Has that Chinese Army upgraded to1943 squads? If so that is a formidable army, if not that is a paper tiger

[Chickenboy]

621 AV? Ugh...[:(] (from a JFB perspective)

ETA: Why haven't you crushed Akyab like a little Japanese bug yet? You've got a land route leading there, beaucoup supply and so forth. Seems like low hanging fruit at this stage of the game.

[4 masked figures burst into Chickenboy's office. Two of them hold him down while one duct tapes his hands together behind his back and another slips a hood over his face. He's roughly brought to his feet and dragged out of the room backwards]

SORRY! SORRY! Was this an OPSEC violation?

[;)]

[Anachro]

Yes, they are all upgraded 1943 squads. We plan to take Akyab soon. They aren't even max strength yet as the theoretical TOE is something like 800+ squads.

Here's the 1st New Corps TOE. All the devices are fully filled out except for support and '43 squads.

[Capt. Harlock]

SORRY! SORRY! Was this an OPSEC violation?

Not unless you had revealed something about the Japanese strength at Akyab. You haven't told Anachro anything he couldn't see for himself.

[Chickenboy]

ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

SORRY! SORRY! Was this an OPSEC violation?

Not unless you had revealed something about the Japanese strength at Akyab. You haven't told Anachro anything he couldn't see for himself.

Capt. Harlock,

Perhaps I wasn't obvious enough with my 'winking' emoticon, but I never suspected that my posting the (relatively obvious) observation about Akyab would constitute OPSEC violations. I was merely stating the profoundly obvious.

[Anachro]

We have good DL there. Akyab has one division with some ancillary units. Still waiting for the next turn. John said he was gonna be busy yesterday, but haven't heard anything yet today.

[Anachro]

Aug 30-Aug 31, 1943

CVs are a day away from being re-fueled and will move back towards Kwajalein next turn, but it looks like John is slowly vacating the port at Kwajalein, with only 3 CAs seen there this turn (FoW and everything). We do manage to put another torpedo into CA Myako on its way to Truk, but we don't do enough damage to sink her. Moreover, it seems that CL Agano will survive. We'll see next turn. Johh bombards Manus with BB Yamato, etc. to little effect this turn.

My CVs have been undetected for two days. John's search east of Kwajalein is spotty.

[Anachro]

Forgot to include:

Afternoon Air attack on Kwajalein Island , at 132,115

Weather in hex: Clear sky

Raid spotted at 7 NM, estimated altitude 11,000 feet.
Estimated time to target is 2 minutes

Allied aircraft
PB4Y-1 Liberator x 1

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AG Daido Maru, Bomb hits 1, heavy fires, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x PB4Y-1 Liberator bombing from 5000 feet *
Port Attack: 5 x 500 lb GP Bomb

[BBfanboy]

With both the CA and CL torpedoed, that TF only has a DD, a PB and a PG that could fight well in a surface engagement. A TF of 4 DDs could probably sink most of the TF.

[ITAKLinus]

Just to inform you, Anachro, I posted a relatively detailed analysis of BTS and Scen1 differences in the relative topic in MOD section.

Maybe there are few interesting things for your match. I wanted to post it here but I thought it was more appropriate to go there.

[Anachro]

I'll give an update next turn. Been a few days with little action. My CV's returned to Kwajalein, but John has made an effort to get his boats out of port, I'm guessing they fled to nearby dot hexes or ports. We sink an AS and AG in Kwajalein harbor. Meanwhile, John is concentrating on Manus again and looks to me like he plans to try and take it. We'll see. In India, a CVE or CVL force appears in the Bay of Bengal and we might try and strike at it depending on what recon shows next few days. We have three CVLs at Ceylon, as well as numerous surface ships.

[Cheesesteak]

ORIGINAL: Anachro

I'll give an update next turn. Been a few days with little action. My CV's returned to Kwajalein, but John has made an effort to get his boats out of port, I'm guessing they fled to nearby dot hexes or ports. We sink an AS and AG in Kwajalein harbor. Meanwhile, John is concentrating on Manus again and looks to me like he plans to try and take it. We'll see. In India, a CVE or CVL force appears in the Bay of Bengal and we might try and strike at it depending on what recon shows next few days. We have three CVLs at Ceylon, as well as numerous surface ships.

What's your feeling on Manus? Concerned? Confident? Somewhere in-between?

[Anachro]

On a side note, I have gotten John's permission to work on a slightly modified BTS, though I haven't decided yet whether I'll wait for his next version with the conversion to BigB's mod or work off the existing DBB variant. In it, the goal will be to fix the glaring issues I think some of us have noted in relation to the economy, air force, and navy. Based on my observation of the editor, most of these changes shouldn't be too hard, with the most laborious and potentially complex being changes to resource/fuel production.

[Anachro]

ORIGINAL: Cheesesteak


What's your feeling on Manus? Concerned? Confident? Somewhere in-between?

Very confident. There's no way he's taking it. To expand, essentially with the destruction of 2 Akagi-class CVs and 2 Hiryu-class CVs, as well as potentially an Aso-class CVL, I have the preponderance of carrier air strength to now meaningfully impose my will on operations. We can start carefully moving up Guinea over the next few months once my ships are back in place.

In the short term, we will take Horn Island and Lae, or try to.