THE THREAD!!!

[Symon]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

No Steve, it's just a whacko. When I was going to MIT, I often went for a pint at the Plough and Stars at the corner of Mass Ave and Hancock. And yeah, I knew where some of my pennys were going, but I'm Irish, after all, so ... The Nation of Ireland has been attempting to unify for decades. The time of the gun is over, the time of incorporation is upon us. With all due respect to my friends in the UK, Ireland will be Ireland; North, South, whatever: Ireland.

Your suggestion the the Boston bombings had some sort of genesis in the Irish conflict is so bizarre as to defy logic. I ain't some IRA puke, and I ain't some RPP puke either. But you have your head up where the sun don't shine.

JWE

[Kwik E Mart]

ORIGINAL: Symon

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

No Steve, it's just a whacko. When I was going to MIT, I often went for a pint at the Plough and Stars at the corner of Mass Ave and Hancock. And yeah, I knew where some of my pennys were going, but I'm Irish, after all, so ... The Nation of Ireland has been attempting to unify for decades. The time of the gun is over, the time of incorporation is upon us. With all due respect to my friends in the UK, Ireland will be Ireland; North, South, whatever: Ireland.

Your suggestion the the Boston bombings had some sort of genesis in the Irish conflict is so bizarre as to defy logic. I ain't some IRA puke, and I ain't some RPP puke either. But you have your head up where the sun don't shine.

JWE

...gents, please...[:-]

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Symon

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

No Steve, it's just a whacko. When I was going to MIT, I often went for a pint at the Plough and Stars at the corner of Mass Ave and Hancock. And yeah, I knew where some of my pennys were going, but I'm Irish, after all, so ... The Nation of Ireland has been attempting to unify for decades. The time of the gun is over, the time of incorporation is upon us. With all due respect to my friends in the UK, Ireland will be Ireland; North, South, whatever: Ireland.

Your suggestion the the Boston bombings had some sort of genesis in the Irish conflict is so bizarre as to defy logic. I ain't some IRA puke, and I ain't some RPP puke either. But you have your head up where the sun don't shine.

JWE

Symon my friend, you been doing the ganja too much! [:D] Re-read what I said. I was talking about irony. IRONY. Remember that? Apparently English lit at MIT skipped over that that . [:D] I wasn't attacking the Irish (I'm partly contaminated with that type of blood myself). So I'm assuming you started the John Jameison too early this afternoon and didn't finish reading my post before you started singing "The men behind the wire". Re-read my post again. PLEASE. And see if it's more like, "Wow isn't it IRONIC", than whatever you seemed to think it meant. My head is firmly in the sunshine (in fact I'm seeing it for the 1st time this year and I'm about to mow the lawn and take advantage of it!). [:D]

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: Chickenboy



That's irrelevant. I couldn't care less what pseudodrationalization he had for his actions. Chechen filth should be fed to the hogs. Alive.

Makes me wonder where that laudable sentiment was a decade ago during the "Chechens are fighting for their freedom from the Russian oppressors" circle jerk.

It is my understanding/indocternation This all really starts to come to an International head when the "Islamic Spring" i.e. Iranian Revolution threatens the area. It is my understanding of the Soviet Docterine that the contagion would be held at the Afgan border rather than continuing the threaten the heart of Soviet oil and cotton resources. We [The US] on the other hand in a strange set of circumstances in 1980 with the Soviet Union seen as the evil empire .. thought that aligning ourselves with the enemy of my enemy would somehow endear ourselves to this radical scurge. Well after they were through with the Soviets and continuing to terrorize Chechnya .. and the Soviet Union falls ... "Zionism" became the target and Jewish Uzbek's made it to our shores escaping the "Religion of Peace". Soon thereafter ... 3 decades later find outselves dealing with the consequinces ..

My own viewpoint .. what might seem quite ignorant and harsh .. but I think the Soviets had it right ..It is unfortunate that whole groups of people with religious fevor threatens us but letting the war come to our shores only means tolerating more bombings and terror .. of course we lack political will to settle this question .. so we shall continue to find an answer ... Maybe the balance between cilvilization and religious fevor played out as terrorism is accepting evil in the world and simply reacting with measured force afterwards. ... the alternative is premptively killing them all ....

I was referring to Beslan, NordOst and a dozen other incidents which were every bit as horrific, soulless and unforgivable, which happened in Moscow and other parts of Russia that are every bit as urban and civilized as Boston and NY (which is to say that it was by no stretch of the imagination some spat in a village with fuzzy-wuzzies fighting amongst themselves). As I recall, the general western reaction to those events was something along the lines of "the f*****g Russkie commies had it coming for oppressing the poor Chechens". Maybe now the western public will begin to understand what we're dealing with here.

As for the other stuff, you are absolutely correct. What's more, the Russians have hundreds of years more experience with "warriors of Islam" then we do. They had successfully put down extreme islamist movements in the past. I'll let you guess how.

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

warspite1

Steve - it appears this had nothing to do with the Irish question - but the fact that Boston was the site of a terrorist act was not lost on some commentators/pressmen over here. Blowing the arms and legs off innocent women and children is never funny is it - no matter the cause. The existence - and real purpose - of Noraid was well known this side of the pond - and not appreciated.....

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

I'm sure theres a very fine line between Irish and Fuzzie-wuzzie terrorists. I'm not sure what it is myself, but I bet there are people who can explain it.

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: Crackaces

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo




Makes me wonder where that laudable sentiment was a decade ago during the "Chechens are fighting for their freedom from the Russian oppressors" circle jerk.

It is my understanding/indocternation This all really starts to come to an International head when the "Islamic Spring" i.e. Iranian Revolution threatens the area. It is my understanding of the Soviet Docterine that the contagion would be held at the Afgan border rather than continuing the threaten the heart of Soviet oil and cotton resources. We [The US] on the other hand in a strange set of circumstances in 1980 with the Soviet Union seen as the evil empire .. thought that aligning ourselves with the enemy of my enemy would somehow endear ourselves to this radical scurge. Well after they were through with the Soviets and continuing to terrorize Chechnya .. and the Soviet Union falls ... "Zionism" became the target and Jewish Uzbek's made it to our shores escaping the "Religion of Peace". Soon thereafter ... 3 decades later find outselves dealing with the consequinces ..

My own viewpoint .. what might seem quite ignorant and harsh .. but I think the Soviets had it right ..It is unfortunate that whole groups of people with religious fevor threatens us but letting the war come to our shores only means tolerating more bombings and terror .. of course we lack political will to settle this question .. so we shall continue to find an answer ... Maybe the balance between cilvilization and religious fevor played out as terrorism is accepting evil in the world and simply reacting with measured force afterwards. ... the alternative is premptively killing them all ....

I was referring to Beslan, NordOst and a dozen other incidents which were every bit as horrific, soulless and unforgivable, which happened in Moscow and other parts of Russia that are every bit as urban and civilized as Boston and NY (which is to say that it was by no stretch of the imagination some spat in a village with fuzzy-wuzzies fighting amongst themselves). As I recall, the general western reaction to those events was something along the lines of "the f*****g Russkie commies had it coming for oppressing the poor Chechens". Maybe now the western public will begin to understand what we're dealing with here.

As for the other stuff, you are absolutely correct. What's more, the Russians have hundreds of years more experience with "warriors of Islam" then we do. They had successfully put down extreme islamist movements in the past. I'll let you guess how.

Were there Cossacks? lot's of big, ugly cossacks? [:D]

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

I'm sure theres a very fine line between Irish and Fuzzie-wuzzie terrorists. I'm not sure what it is myself, but I bet there are people who can explain it.

I don't think there is any line between terroist and terroism. Or "Freedom fighters". If a "freedom fighter" has to resort to killing innocents , he's a terroist. And if you can't hold a revolution without resorting to terroism , your cause is doomed. [:(]

Did the "Founding fathers " resort to terroism? Vandalism , yes. Tar and feathers (a fraternity prank that got out of hand![:D]), yes. But not terroism.

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Were there Cossacks? lot's of big, ugly cossacks? [:D]

Give that man a cigar! Although to be fair, Cossacks are generally ugly, and usually big.

I'll give you one more. The big, ugly Cossacks were also in Georgia in the when the Georgians begged for Russian protection against the "warriors of Islam" and agreed to be annexed. An interesting tidbit which the western media conveniently forgot not that long ago when they were having that circlejerk about the mean, nasty Russian Commies oppressing the freedom-loving Georgians. Incidentally, I didnt see a lot of outrage about the more recent events in Georgia. I guess we only care when the Russkie Commies are involved.

[jeffk3510]

Wife (in the middle of the night)- "Matt (our oldest) has a boner, what should I do about it"

Me - "Do what you do to mine. Ignore it" (rolls over and goes back to sleep)

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

warspite1

Steve - it appears this had nothing to do with the Irish question - but the fact that Boston was the site of a terrorist act was not lost on some commentators/pressmen over here. Blowing the arms and legs off innocent women and children is never funny is it - no matter the cause. The existence - and real purpose - of Noraid was well known this side of the pond - and not appreciated.....

Belive me, I know. I spent some time there in 1979, and on 17 December 1983 when I was a student there I became aware of it 1st hand when the Harrods bomb nearly went up in my (then) fiances and my face as we came up from the tube's exit on our way to a little last minute shopping. [:(]

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Did the "Founding fathers " resort to terroism? Vandalism , yes. Tar and feathers (a fraternity prank that got out of hand![:D]), yes. But not terroism.

No fair! Foul! Terrorism hadnt been invented yet. Even the Spanish during the Napoleonic wars didnt do anything that could be called terrorism, and they were a lot more p*ssed than we were. [:D]

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Were there Cossacks? lot's of big, ugly cossacks? [:D]

Give that man a cigar! Although to be fair, Cossacks are generally ugly, and usually big.

I'll give you one more. The big, ugly Cossacks were also in Georgia in the when the Georgians begged for Russian protection against the "warriors of Islam" and agreed to be annexed. An interesting tidbit which the western media conveniently forgot not that long ago when they were having that circlejerk about the mean, nasty Russian Commies oppressing the freedom-loving Georgians. Incidentally, I didnt see a lot of outrage about the more recent events in Georgia. I guess we only care when the Russkie Commies are involved.

I think when a lot of people heard about Georgia and the Russian invasion , there 1st thought was "Russians?In Georgia? What did they do, fly into Jacksonville then cross the border?" [:D] Sad, but hey. They are public school graduates. [X(][8|][:D]

[Onime No Kyo]

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

In a strange sort of bizarre way it's kind of Ironic that Boston , of all US cities should be the one to suffer a horrendously brutal terroist bombing attack from a "liberation terroist group". In the 1970's and early 80's south Boston was a major fund raising location for the IRA which at the time was conducting a terroist bombing campaign in the UK. My 1st thought when I heard/saw the news coverage of the attack was "is this some kind of twisted revenge bombing because of Boston's IRA support?" [:(]

warspite1

Steve - it appears this had nothing to do with the Irish question - but the fact that Boston was the site of a terrorist act was not lost on some commentators/pressmen over here. Blowing the arms and legs off innocent women and children is never funny is it - no matter the cause. The existence - and real purpose - of Noraid was well known this side of the pond - and not appreciated.....

Belive me, I know. I spent some time there in 1979, and on 17 December 1983 when I was a student there I became aware of it 1st hand when the Harrods bomb nearly went up in my (then) fiances and my face as we came up from the tube's exit on our way to a little last minute shopping. [:(]

Congrats on the INP, spambot, but dont you have a turn to run? [:D]

[Kwik E Mart]

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Wife (in the middle of the night)- "Matt (our oldest) has a boner, what should I do about it"

Me - "Do what you do to mine. Ignore it" (rolls over and goes back to sleep)

[X(]...does someone need a trip to a certain type massage parlor with a happy ending?

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

Did the "Founding fathers " resort to terroism? Vandalism , yes. Tar and feathers (a fraternity prank that got out of hand![:D]), yes. But not terroism.

No fair! Foul! Terrorism hadnt been invented yet. Even the Spanish during the Napoleonic wars didnt do anything that could be called terrorism, and they were a lot more p*ssed than we were. [:D]

I'd say that terroism was begining in the Napoleonic wars. But hey, that was 1800's. We're talking 1770's and 80's. So there! [:D]

[Kwik E Mart]

...off to the links, lads...be nice! and have a great weekend!

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve

ORIGINAL: warspite1


warspite1

Steve - it appears this had nothing to do with the Irish question - but the fact that Boston was the site of a terrorist act was not lost on some commentators/pressmen over here. Blowing the arms and legs off innocent women and children is never funny is it - no matter the cause. The existence - and real purpose - of Noraid was well known this side of the pond - and not appreciated.....

Belive me, I know. I spent some time there in 1979, and on 17 December 1983 when I was a student there I became aware of it 1st hand when the Harrods bomb nearly went up in my (then) fiances and my face as we came up from the tube's exit on our way to a little last minute shopping. [:(]

Congrats on the INP, spambot, but dont you have a turn to run? [:D]

Actually a lawn to mow.....but I'm stalling. [:D] I need to take my time on this turn. Big plans, big plans. [:D]

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Kwik E Mart

...off to the links, lads...be nice! and have a great weekend!

Enjoy! [:D]

[AW1Steve]

ORIGINAL: Kwik E Mart

ORIGINAL: jeffk3510

Wife (in the middle of the night)- "Matt (our oldest) has a boner, what should I do about it"

Me - "Do what you do to mine. Ignore it" (rolls over and goes back to sleep)

[X(]...does someone need a trip to a certain type massage parlor with a happy ending?

Should we all chip in? [:D]