Banzais Don't Make Victories - Anachro (A) vs John 3rd (J) BTS 5.7

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Sep 15th, 1943

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Sep 15th, 1943

A bit of an annoying day as despite 3-4 bombardments our troops fail to reduce the forts at Lae from 2 to 1. Moreover, John's ships are nearby and we can anticipate some potentially massive bombardments over the next few days and local Japanese air superiority with John's KB on the way. Nonetheless, this is tempered by some nice activity by our subs plus the good performance of our Thunderbolts in the air. An American sub puts two more torpedoes in the beleaguered CV Taikaku near Eniwetok, but despite that ship being hit by four torpedoes now, she still hasn't sunk. A French submarine puts an additional torpedo in the BB Tosa at Madang. Subs additionally sink an xAP and an xAK.

The real interesting thing is what to do with my CV's. They can head by way of Tahiti and Palmyra back towards the SoPac undetected, they can take a more direct route through the Marshalls, they can also attempt to come from the north and hit John's damaged ships and the CV Taikaku near Truk while his KB is down by Lae (recent intelligence puts some of his damaged CA's near Truk with the CV Taikaku heading there before it was hit again one hex out of Eniwetok). I'd imagine John would need to put CV Taikaku back into Eniwetok and we could potentially sink it at port there with our CVs. Decisions.

Meanwhile, our forces at Lae are okay for now and can be reinforced by more troops later on if needed. As stated, the 1st Marine Division (412 AV) at Buna is 100% prepped, there's also an additional 100 AV at Milne Bay.

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RE: Sep 15th, 1943

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The two North Carolina-class fast BBs have finished their refits at Brisbane and are available for duty. The BB South Dakota will be available tomorrow with the BB Indiana still having 8 days in port for refit. These will help for any potentially future surface engagements as right now John has the preponderance of surface naval power in the South Pacific. Additional fast BBs and BCs are at Pearl repairing and will join as soon as possible.

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Sep 17th, 1943

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Sep 17th, 1943

John is evacuating Lae; air battles in the skies over Lae and while we clear the CAP, a number of transports are still shot down in the afternoon. Paratroopers of all things manage to bring down Lae's forts to 1. In China, Chungking falls, but this is because we have just extracted 2500 AV to head west. The major portion of the Allied fast carrier fleet is undetected by Wake Island. Should we try a hit on Truk? CV Taikaku didn't sink, but it's unknown if it continued to Truk or went back to Eniwetok.

I was a bit worried this turn as my CVEs on the 16th were still set to Remain on Station (I'd forgotten) and didn't move south towards Townsville like they were supposed to, ending up only 14 hexes from KB. I was worried John was gonna do a flank jump down, but he didn't.

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RE: Sep 17th, 1943

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Where did John lose more Lizs?
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RE: Sep 17th, 1943

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John has tried a few ineffectual night raids on Calcutta the last few turns. In addition to Calcutta, John tried a night port raid on Colombo last turn.
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RE: Sep 17th, 1943

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With four total torpedo hits, my bet is that Taikaku had to duck into Eniwetok to get flooding stabilized and maybe stay long enough to bring down system damage.
Eniwetok is sort of isolated from the other islands in the area and about 18 hexes from Truk. Perhaps a limited Port strike there would answer the question without revealing that all your CVs are nearby? I think Eniwetok's AF max size is 3, so barring heavy AA your strike should do OK.
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Sep 18th, 1943

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Sep 18th, 1943

@BB The CVs will hit Eniwetok and then move south, the situation requires their immediate support around Lae.

First we get this confirmation:
CV Soryu is reported to have been sunk near Ontong Java on Aug 24, 1943

Contrary to what I thought last turn, John reinforces Lae! So, for now my forces will sit and wait and build forts. John can't stick around forever, especially once he knows my CVs are closing on the area. Unfortunately, they shock attack this turn despite being set to Deliberate and this might have been from my Paratroop unit being forced to shock attack, I don't know. Anyways, this means I will have to land the first Marine division eventually, which is nicely located nearby at Buna and 100% prepped. I have 200-300 more AV I can throw at the battle; once my carriers are in position, I can sustain bombardments with cruisers and fast BBs on Lae to reduce it and hopefully bag a few divisions.

However, that isn't the nice thing about this turn. The nice thing about this turn is one Mk. 6 mine manages to sink a Nagato-class battleship! We had seen an N1K1 Rex destroyed on the ground and thought it strange, but only belatedly discovered this when reading the combat report. I had placed a lot of mines at Lae and just outside of it, putting my DMs in great danger and losing a CM in the process. I had thought I'd get some DDs and xAK/xAPs - never would I have though I'd get so lucky as this. Never doubt the prowess of a Mk. 6 mine again, for it can make a battleship's magazine explode! We can only assume poor ammunition storage practices on the part of the Japanese...

Port Moresby becomes a level 9 airfield tomorrow, Milne Bay will soon be level 8, we can then station ships right next to Lae with LBA protection, even from Japanese carriers. Coupled with CVEs, this can be potent fighter protection. CV Bunker Hill arrives at the Panama Canal.

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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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If your units were set to deliberate attack, that's what they did. If you forgot to stand down the transports, so that they carried more paratroops to the hex, then the 'chutes executed a shock attack. But that doesn't affect the setting of your other units. If 100,000 men deliberate attack and 5 crazy guys shock attack, the Combat Report will list it as a shock attack. But only those 5 guys did so, the rest went deliberate.
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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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Don't doubt these boys! They may be small, but they can pack a punch!

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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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If your units were set to deliberate attack, that's what they did. If you forgot to stand down the transports, so that they carried more paratroops to the hex, then the 'chutes executed a shock attack. But that doesn't affect the setting of your other units. If 100,000 men deliberate attack and 5 crazy guys shock attack, the Combat Report will list it as a shock attack. But only those 5 guys did so, the rest went deliberate.

No transports, there was a small bit of support units in the para left in the hex last turn and they were set to shock, which I couldn't change. The rest were on deliberate, which as you said, is probably what they did.
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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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Given that it was BB Mutsu that sank, here's a factoid from the real life Mutsu. She sank in an accident while in port back in Japan at Hashirajima:
On 8 June 1943, Mutsu was moored at Hashirajima when the magazine of her No. 3 turret exploded at 12:13, cutting the ship in half. The forward section capsized almost immediately, but the rear section remained afloat until the early morning of the next day. Nearby ships were able to rescue 353 survivors from the 1,474 crew members and visitors aboard Mutsu, meaning that 1,121 men were killed in the explosion. To avert the potential damage to morale from the loss of a battleship, Mutsu's loss was declared a state secret. To further prevent rumors from spreading, many survivors were reassigned to various garrisons in the Pacific Ocean.

The IJN convened a commission three days after the sinking to investigate the loss. It issued its preliminary conclusions on 25 June, well before the investigation of the wreck was completed, and decided that the explosion was the result of a disgruntled seaman. The commission failed to consider the possibility of fire, which historian Mike Williams considers to be a possible cause, as a number of observers noted smoke coming from the vicinity of No. 3 turret. The truth, however, will never be known.
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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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So the Mutsu was a ticking time bomb ready to explode and the mine was just the needed spark to set it off.
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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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Edit: Oops, I meant this post for Anachro's other game, so I moved it there. Thanks, Cheesesteak, for the heads-up.
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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

Edit: Oops, I meant this post for Anachro's other game, so I moved it there. Thanks, Cheesesteak, for the heads-up.



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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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In the next turn, 2 Japanese DDs are sunk near Lae, one by a mine and one by a sub torpedo. We launch a strike against Eniwetok, but find a CAP of 60 planes that easily gets through my 110 escorts to hit my bombers. 2 bombs only placed into CV Taikaku in port with one bouncing off the deck or belt armor if I recall. We lost ~100 planes to Japans 60 (John loses planes in sweeps over Lae). Shameful.
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RE: Sep 18th, 1943

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Don't be so hard on yourself. It was a worthwhile gamble to finish off a stricken Japanese CV and also served as a reminder that even the Allies can get a little over their skis after a heady victory like you've just had. [8D]
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Sep 20th, 1943

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Sep 20th, 1943

Given that John might pull back with his KB towards Eniwetok and that my own CV's were low on fuel, I split off my carriers from my BBs and some destroyers and send them back east where they will soon meet up with some AO's for refueling. I elect to send my BBs in to bombard Eniwetok, but due to fueling issues perhaps, they don't travel very far, but can potentially hit Eniwetok next turn. The issue to me is that KB has disappeared and is most likely heading towards the vicinity and could potentially strike next turn if he moves in at flank speed. It might be more prudent to also withdraw my battleships instead of going in towards Eniwetok. I was hoping they'd be a bit closer to the island and the DD escorts are still low on fuel. So that's a big decision for the next turn.

The nice thing though is what happens near Lae at Finschhafen; seeing "CM's there last turn and knowing John had 5 CMs in the area, I elect to sweep Finschhafen and then port strike it while also sending P-40's to sweep Lae. The P-40's suffer at the hand of Mr. Frank at Lae, but my Thunderbolts and Lightnings easily sweep away Jacks and A6M5s at Finschhafen, leaving clear skies for a port strike there. We don't find CMs, but we do find an xAK and 4 DDs - all are sunk.

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RE: Sep 20th, 1943

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Taikaku will be in Eniwetok for a while. No need to risk your BBs right now. I assume once your CVs return you are prepared to take on KB? That could be the time to bombard Eniwetok to suppress the airfield and hope for a hit on the CV.
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RE: Sep 20th, 1943

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Taikaku will be in Eniwetok for a while. No need to risk your BBs right now. I assume once your CVs return you are prepared to take on KB? That could be the time to bombard Eniwetok to suppress the airfield and hope for a hit on the CV.

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RE: Sep 20th, 1943

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Bump for an update. Nothing in 23 days? C'mon man...[:-]
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