Test run on BoB

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RE: Test run on BoB

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Another question, now regarding the load/bombload. Several planes, especially fighters, have a load of 0/zero. Are they in any way negatively affected by this if load is used for guns and bombs ? Or is this value ignored for planes not carrying bombs ? 
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RE: Test run on BoB

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I will have to double check with Harley, but it was my thinking that it only effected planes with a bomb load
 
but if it effect drop tanks or weapons, I will have to add a total here just to make sure
 
 
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another run on BoB

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okay, made some changes and corrections

so, well this run was bloody, it was done to see if it worked


Stukas are leading the charge, going after two ports and a radar station




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hmm strange reaction, the southern front reacts HARDly at all

but, the ones who do, do well (lost 2 109s on the first pass, even worse, spent over a hour digging up all the info on the GE pilot who was shot down and Captured)



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Hmmm, Stukas and Balloons and Flak and cables and fighters, they do not match up well



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the other raids have HARDly took off and it is looking like a bleak morning



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but the war is not always about one battle or one part of a battle

the raids in the north fair better

the 109s are busy and have there hands full trying to protect there stukas, but it pays off when the other raids slip though



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those 90 skill pilots should not be in there, I am not finished with there units or have gotten to them yet

all in all, a toss up day, hit what I wanted to hit, but took a lot of pain in return (for the test it worked great and learned what I wanted to see)





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wish them pilots could count, make it much easier to see what was going on



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two units got honorable mention in the dispatches today

and I bet they are not the ones you would expect





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and (oh, never mind, they are not really here, I just using them)



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RE: another run on BoB

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I thought the G50 should have a shorter range the the Bf109 ?

The reason that the Italians used the Cr42 biplane over the UK may have been that it could fly further than the G50.

...though I've just realised that you have "escort" and "real" radius, where the real looks OK. Strange.
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RE: another run on BoB

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I showing 420 to 620 for the G.50
 
the CR.42 shows 488 and 630
 
now, assumeing the 2nd rate is slow cruise for the 50 and the 2nd for the 42 is with drop tanks
 
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RE: another run on BoB

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Some small errors again :
1) Italian planes use a 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT gun, in short usually only called SAFAT (and not SAFA).
2) Please use MG FF and not MG-FF, starting with Bf 109 E-4 they used the MG FF/M (more explosive load with the HE mine shot, slightly higher RoF (540 instead of 520) and much higher muzle velocity (700 m/sec instead of ~585). Projectile had a reduced weight thus degrading speed somewhat faster. I'm not that sure since when the Bf 110 used this gun but I think the C-3/C-4 already got it.
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RE: another run on BoB

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ORIGINAL: Denniss

Some small errors again :
1) Italian planes use a 12.7 mm Breda-SAFAT gun, in short usually only called SAFAT (and not SAFA).

Typo on my part, my bad, corrected to SAFAT, also the 7.7mm


2) Please use MG FF and not MG-FF, starting with Bf 109 E-4 they used the MG FF/M (more explosive load with the HE mine shot, slightly higher RoF (540 instead of 520) and much higher muzle velocity (700 m/sec instead of ~585). Projectile had a reduced weight thus degrading speed somewhat faster. I'm not that sure since when the Bf 110 used this gun but I think the C-3/C-4 already got it.

changed MG-FF to MG FF

the MG FF/M is in ? but think I used a lower case m, have changed to upper case, I see other docs also using it as upper case now

if you can find when it was issued, used by the 110s I will add it to them, right now, I only have it on the 110C-4/B and 110D

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RE: another run on BoB

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@Hard Sarge
Maybe a bit troublesomely but how about posting all the plane screens so the othere "gurus" can check them out and correct some minor things(spelling etc.)
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RE: another run on BoB

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:P

one hassle is they are still changeing (which is where some of the errors kick in)

but, will try and post up a list when I can, I am in the middle of some other work right now


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RE: another run on BoB

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Cool

Maybe I wrong but didn't we have almost all original planes and plane versions in the original Bob?
All Italians missed of course.

So do we see a new plane or a new version of a plane beside the Italian planes?
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RE: another run on BoB

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not sure I follow your question, but will post this in case I do follow your meaning

(long day and all)

and as in all, this can and may and will change

some planes are waiting to see how they would work, if added




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RE: another run on BoB

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ahhh, guess you would some of the other ones too then :)


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