
Slightly OT - Real Aircraft from the Game
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Nice photos Carl ..... You trying to tempt me into a BtR game.... ?
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Nice photos. Of course, there is a mini game to introduce people to the system - Malta![:)] How's about it HS?
Failing that, there is a new game at a lower level (Flighter Controller) in Malta, wouldn't that be fun.
Failing that, there is a new game at a lower level (Flighter Controller) in Malta, wouldn't that be fun.
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Excellent pictures of Malta Goodboyladdie. Did you notice that the Spitfire is the exact same airacraft as in my first post? Here's a picture of it showing its serial number.


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While the battles the British fight may differ in the widest possible ways, they invariably have two common characteristics – they are always fought uphill and always at the junction of two or more map sheets.
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A very nice man called Chris Mifsud from Malta took them and sent them to me after I had sold him a model. All I did was to share them.
Scott, you have enough on your plate with me kicking your arse at WitP. Any news on taking me on at CHS?
Scott, you have enough on your plate with me kicking your arse at WitP. Any news on taking me on at CHS?

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RE: Slightly OT - now it is really OT LOL
sorry screwed up, these are from a game that should be coming out soon, called Forge of Freedom
Now this battle is a odd one, I had 3 VHs, I left two open and defended the last one, I short of troops
but my one unit has 2 Digger skills, so guess who got to do most of the work at making my line
were this one is going to be fun, is 3 of my units have Lorenz's and the digger has a Withworth, my 2 garrison troops have a Milie and a shotgun !
my troops above the VH have IW
now to be honest, this one should be a no brainer, a slaughter, the Union has to come into me, I am dug in, and I have better range

Now this battle is a odd one, I had 3 VHs, I left two open and defended the last one, I short of troops
but my one unit has 2 Digger skills, so guess who got to do most of the work at making my line
were this one is going to be fun, is 3 of my units have Lorenz's and the digger has a Withworth, my 2 garrison troops have a Milie and a shotgun !
my troops above the VH have IW
now to be honest, this one should be a no brainer, a slaughter, the Union has to come into me, I am dug in, and I have better range

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Dagnabit
the cowards run too fast
that was brutal
enjoyable though

the cowards run too fast
that was brutal
enjoyable though

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here is a screen shot of the Union Seiges at work and why I say they are bloody


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and all I had there was a Fort with IW weapons, and 2 Garrison troops with IWs
if the Union comes back next month, they will be sorry, forts can be upgraded

if the Union comes back next month, they will be sorry, forts can be upgraded

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so that is a "cheap" big weapon, the top upgrade makes my troops do 50% more damage, the lower one makes me take 25% less damage
but if you look at the manpower icons, those troops are pretty shot up, so my Div will not be leaving anytime soon !!!!
but if you look at the manpower icons, those troops are pretty shot up, so my Div will not be leaving anytime soon !!!!

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Dang
sorry to ruin the nice pictures, but I guess I will leave this up in case anyone is interested in Forge of Freedom
this was suppost to be part of a AAR I was asked to do
sorry to ruin the nice pictures, but I guess I will leave this up in case anyone is interested in Forge of Freedom
this was suppost to be part of a AAR I was asked to do

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Here is the Me 262’s British counterpart. This particular Meteor was the first F9/40 prototype manufactured and is now at RAF Cosford. Production Meteors differed very little.
Meteors were deployed to the continent first on 4 Feb 1945 when a detachment of four Welland-powered 616 squadron aircraft arrived at Melsbroek. They were painted white overall to distinguish them from German jets and avoid friendly fire. Bad weather and poor servicability hampered operations.
On 31 March 17 improved Derwent-powered Mk. IIIs arrived to replace them. On 3 April they flew their first scramble and intercepted what turned out to be two friendly aircraft, and on 9 April they were stopped by a congested runway from intercepting what was probably a German jet leaving a contrail at 30,000 ft.
They did, however, participate in numerous ground attack sorties before the end of the war, destroying dozens of vehicles and damaging aircraft on the ground – for example on 2 May sections of four Meteors operated throughout the day, claiming 22 vehicles destroyed and 83 damaged, a locomotive and four wagons damaged and an Fi 156 Storch destroyed on the ground.

Meteors were deployed to the continent first on 4 Feb 1945 when a detachment of four Welland-powered 616 squadron aircraft arrived at Melsbroek. They were painted white overall to distinguish them from German jets and avoid friendly fire. Bad weather and poor servicability hampered operations.
On 31 March 17 improved Derwent-powered Mk. IIIs arrived to replace them. On 3 April they flew their first scramble and intercepted what turned out to be two friendly aircraft, and on 9 April they were stopped by a congested runway from intercepting what was probably a German jet leaving a contrail at 30,000 ft.
They did, however, participate in numerous ground attack sorties before the end of the war, destroying dozens of vehicles and damaging aircraft on the ground – for example on 2 May sections of four Meteors operated throughout the day, claiming 22 vehicles destroyed and 83 damaged, a locomotive and four wagons damaged and an Fi 156 Storch destroyed on the ground.

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Here is Me 163 B-1 Werk-Nummer 191461, originally of JG 400 and captured at Husum. It is now at RAF Cosford (with an Avro Lincoln heavy bomber behind it).
The landing skid is has the strengthened, deeper front end introduced on B-1 series aircraft. The small hatch on the port side of the aircraft just below and in front of the thick armoured glass covers the gun camera.
The large port just above the front of the skid is for a towing bar, and I have seen pictures of Me 163s being towed by a single harnessed ox, though a purpose-built tractor was produced to recover aircraft which had landed on their skids. This was known as a Scheuch-Schlepper and had a Y-shaped rear which would fit round the front of an aircraft and under its wings to allow it to be jacked up and towed.

The landing skid is has the strengthened, deeper front end introduced on B-1 series aircraft. The small hatch on the port side of the aircraft just below and in front of the thick armoured glass covers the gun camera.
The large port just above the front of the skid is for a towing bar, and I have seen pictures of Me 163s being towed by a single harnessed ox, though a purpose-built tractor was produced to recover aircraft which had landed on their skids. This was known as a Scheuch-Schlepper and had a Y-shaped rear which would fit round the front of an aircraft and under its wings to allow it to be jacked up and towed.

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ORIGINAL: Howard Mitchell
Excellent pictures of Malta Goodboyladdie. Did you notice that the Spitfire is the exact same aircraft as in my first post? Here's a picture of it showing its serial number.
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This particular aircraft has a history!!! Checkout this link http://www.historicaircraftcollection.ltd.uk/spitfire/
The Hurricane in the Malta shots is a Canadian 12 gun Mk XII. Details at http://www.historicaircraftcollection.ltd.uk/hurricane/
Cheers,
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Thanks for the link Reg, I didn't know about it. Very interesting reading. I must admit I'm a bit ignorant about the Hurricane - time for some research I think!
I did see the same Hurricane on the day I photogrpahed the Spitfire Vb. Here it is at the end of its display.

I did see the same Hurricane on the day I photogrpahed the Spitfire Vb. Here it is at the end of its display.

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And now for some bombers.
This is the nose turret of the B-17G at RAF Duxford.
The nose turret derived from a ventral, electrically-driven, periscopically-sighted Bendix turret intended for both the B-17 and B-25. It was not a success, with one of its worst features being that the target was only seen upright if in front of the aircraft; if the turret rotated so did the image the gunner saw until it was inverted when the turret was pointing rearwards. Gunners easily became disoriented and even nauseous.
To salvage some of the effort and equipment which had gone in to the programme the turret was converted to the one seen here, fitted to late production B-17Fs and B-17Gs. The earliest turrets on the B-17F still used the remote sighting head and were nearly useless, but when fitted with a direct site the turret became an effective part of the defensive armament.

This is the nose turret of the B-17G at RAF Duxford.
The nose turret derived from a ventral, electrically-driven, periscopically-sighted Bendix turret intended for both the B-17 and B-25. It was not a success, with one of its worst features being that the target was only seen upright if in front of the aircraft; if the turret rotated so did the image the gunner saw until it was inverted when the turret was pointing rearwards. Gunners easily became disoriented and even nauseous.
To salvage some of the effort and equipment which had gone in to the programme the turret was converted to the one seen here, fitted to late production B-17Fs and B-17Gs. The earliest turrets on the B-17F still used the remote sighting head and were nearly useless, but when fitted with a direct site the turret became an effective part of the defensive armament.

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This is a Consolidated A-6 hydraulically-driven tail turret on the RAF Cosford B-24M.
The turret used an ingenious rotation mechanism which used a cable on a drum rather than a ring gear. This was much easier to manufacture but in use had serious weaknesses. Wear and temperature variations on the cable led to erratic control. The mount was not steady enough for accurate firing and vibrations from the guns were transmitted into the sighting system. It is notable that the British replaced it with a Bolton Paul tail turret with 4x.303 machine guns in their aircraft, even though they were aware of the greater range and hitting power of 2 x0.5”
The turret was gradually improved and widely used, but was never very popular. The USN replaced the nose turret with an ERCO 250SH-3 in its Pb4Y2 Privateers.

The turret used an ingenious rotation mechanism which used a cable on a drum rather than a ring gear. This was much easier to manufacture but in use had serious weaknesses. Wear and temperature variations on the cable led to erratic control. The mount was not steady enough for accurate firing and vibrations from the guns were transmitted into the sighting system. It is notable that the British replaced it with a Bolton Paul tail turret with 4x.303 machine guns in their aircraft, even though they were aware of the greater range and hitting power of 2 x0.5”
The turret was gradually improved and widely used, but was never very popular. The USN replaced the nose turret with an ERCO 250SH-3 in its Pb4Y2 Privateers.

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While the battles the British fight may differ in the widest possible ways, they invariably have two common characteristics – they are always fought uphill and always at the junction of two or more map sheets.
General Sir William Slim
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RE: Slightly OT - Real Aircraft from the Game
Not enough sleep Hard Sarge????????? [;)]

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