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RE: Roster Size Limits

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Vick Winnek at Allexperts.com has this to say about this subject:

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Date: 10/31/2006

Subject: Roster limits - D1

Question: I don't believe there's a roster limit for home games, but is there a limit as to the number of players a team may travel with and suit up for away games?

Answer: The NCAA Football Rules do not address this issue as it is an NCAA administrative regulation not a playing rule. At one time it was 48 squad members as the limit for the traveling team. I have a call into the NCAA to verify the travel limit. There is a roster limit for suiting up at home games. I will verify this number as it has changed over the years from unlimited to 100 to 80.

NCAA Football Rule 1-2-4(b) limits the number of non uniformed personnel in the team area to 60 for both teams.

Follow up answer: I was just advised it is done on a conference by conference basis the vast majority limit travel squads from 60-70 squadmembers and many limit the number of dressed home game squad members. NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11 governs the size per my contact at the NCAA.

D-1A Squads are imited to 105 squad size amd D-1AA is limited to 90. As far as travel only 56 squad members can travel the D-1AA level (63 for D-III). I still do no have an answer for D-1A.
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RE: Roster Size Limits

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[font="Courier New"]Maybe he is right, just seems like if the conferences' determined it, Ty would have at least told me that, when I asked him for the contact information for those who knew.[/font]
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RE: Roster Size Limits

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GW, your contact stated it was not part of the NCAA rules, and that is correct.
 
Like many things, the divisions and conferences have their own rules.  That is why trying to put all of them into the game would be such a daunting task.
 
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RE: Roster Size Limits

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Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:45:34 -0500

From:
"Halpin, Ty" <THalpin@ncaa.org>&nbsp;

To:
"Great White"

Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:45:34 -0500


"Halpin, Ty" <THalpin@ncaa.org>&nbsp;&nbsp;


"Great White" <>
It is left to each team. We do have scholarship requirements, but that has nothing to do with how many players may be dressed. We limit the number of people in the team area, but in theory, those could all be players.
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[font="courier new"]When you read the entire post, you notice what is bold, does not say that. It is even more individualized; however, even with the more individualized to letting the programs decide (harder than the conferences, no one even mentioned divisions) makes it easy. Just pick a number, I like 100-players and allow MF's USAn college&nbsp;teams to use from 85-players to up to 100-players.[/font]
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I was just advised it is done on a conference by conference basis the vast majority limit travel squads from 60-70 squadmembers and many limit the number of dressed home game squad members. NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11 governs the size per my contact at the NCAA.
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[font="courier new"]I have thought of one-point that makes the above unlikely and another point that makes the above impossible. [/font]
[font="courier new"][/font]&nbsp;
[font="courier new"]First, Ty works for The NCAA and I asked him[/font]
Then which department and who, in that
department, do I contact
?&nbsp;Or is there no regulation (by The NCAA) of Div. 1A FootBall Programs' home game and away game rosters? Left to each program?
[font="courier new"]if it was a
NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11
, then he would have at least put me incontact with The NCAA Admin. Just as if it was conferences who determined the limits, then&nbsp;he would have at least put me incontact with one the conferences representatives.[/font]
[font="courier new"][/font]&nbsp;
[font="courier new"]Second, Independents (like Notre Dame) would have a huge recruiting (dress how many people on the sideline you like)&nbsp;and etc advantage; because
NCAA Admin. Rule 17.11
only gives conferences the power to set the limit and Independents have no conferences. Maybe away games, the Programs' conferences they play can set it; but for Notre Dame home games they do what they like.[/font]
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