Round1 2vs2 MrQuiet/Avatar47 vs MarshallArt/mikemcmann

[MrQuiet]

Winter 1941

The Allies have decided to stockpile any aircraft they can find in Crete.
Well we can not have that now can we?
The order was given to hit the Island Airfields at Dawn Jan1 when it was expected the Allied Pilots would be completely hung-over from the New Years Eve Festivities.

This may not have been the case.
Brittish Huricanes got there buts up in the air and put up a hell of a fight, even with there under-teked aircraft damageing many BF-109s.

The WA CAG may have been still drunk from the night before. They were bested by 2 squadrans of Stukas both scoreing hits in air to air with the wooosy CAG pilots. Scratch 1 Carrier Air Group, good job Stuka boys.[;)]

After the air 2 air defenders were taken care of the real death from above came roaring in damageing several groups of aircraft still on ground (pilots sleeping it off??)

Medals should have been handed to all involved but I am sorry report there must be a major shortage of medals in the german inventory [&:] Not star for anyone.

Turn Sent to Avatar47 (Japan)

[Avatar47]

Japan is glad to see a successful Germany in Asia, as this occupies the colonial imperialists further.... Strikes are made against chinese factories this turn, all but 1 are out of production. Major forces have been moved from the chinese coastal provinces to Manchuria, along with the corresponding supply. Mostly supply has been built this turn thusfar, no losses. Waiting to see what germany does...

[Marshall Art]

Winter 1941 - Stalin was notified of extensive movements along the borders with both Germany and Japan - attacks may be imminent! The 5-year plan for Soviet military build-up was halted and an emergency plan was drafted that will assure that any invasion will be swiftly repelled!

Due to excellent Intelligence the WA were supplied with some valuable information in exchange for the hope for Lend-Lease supplies in the event of a world war... Japan seems to have some uprisings to deal with in the occupied Chinese provinces - just the beginning of a liberation movement...?

Turn sent to mikemcmann.

[MrQuiet]

Spring 1941

The big news in the world in Barbarosa has started.
It started off pretty well but part of it turned to crap real quick.
I'll explain.

In the first battle you can see my apparently untrained Armor Division rolls a 12 with 8 dice.
That comander has been removed.

Let me set the scene for the next battle.
Karkov is protected by 2fighter squadrans and only 2 fighter squadrans.
Should be very easy pickins for a armor unit 97% chance of victory.
Well I am a magnet for enemy auto hit the dam fighters damage my armor.

A couple curses later I try again also with 97% chance of victory.
The fucking fighters damage another armor unit.... huh WTF?

Then the fun continues as I proceed to lose a few Heavy Bomber to flacks and Heavy fleets Oh Joy not my day I guess.

Turn sent to Japan (avatar47)

Situation Map to follow:

[MrQuiet]

This is the situation on the East Front at the End of the German turn.
Not terrible but I should own Karkov.
Odessa should have been surounded and troops destroyed.
Instead they punished 2 of my milita and one of the inf escaped to Karkov. Drats!

[Avatar47]

Japan invades Siberia! The decision by the high command was taken on the advice of Foreign Minister Matsuoka that an attack on Siberia is more vital right now, and that the attack on the western powers can and must be delayed 6 months.
 
Unlike the previous conflict with the Soviets in 38, the Japanese have thus far proven very organized and destroyed all of Red Army units in Siberia.... We shall see that Japan gives any aid to their German partners as possible, or else what is the point of the Anti-Comintern pact?

[Marshall Art]

Spring 1941 - Russia faces invasions on all fronts - but its soldiers will defend every inch of Russian soil!! All Russian warriors look up to the stubborn stand of the 1063th Fighter Squadron, they repulsed two attacks by German tanks! The commander of the squadron was awarded the Medal "Hero of the Soviet Union". In all provinces Militias were called to arms, the Axis will soon realize that they awoke the sleeping Russian Bear!!
 
Turn sent to mikemcmann.

[MrQuiet]

Summer 41

The sleeping Russian Bear retreated into its cave and took its factorys with it.
Germans take advantage of there speed and firepower moving on Lenningrad with ease.

In the South Karkov was finaly won over now that the Secret Russian Weapon (incredibaly lucky fighter squadrans) had flown away. All sectors have been reinforced and resupplied to continue the party in the Fall.

Huge build up of men and machines in the Capital City of Moscow. Hmmm... How will I deal with that??[&:]

In other German News.
Our Grand Battleship Bismark has taken to the seas on a very successfull maiden voyage intercepting Allied lend lease on its way to the sleepy Russian Bears. Some live gunnary practice was in order and all hands on deck have gained VET status overnight. Good news indeed.

As a matter of fact the German Army recieved more medals this turn fighting mostly milita then they have the entire war.

Now down there in the hottly contested Med grand battles of air and naval units clashed until one side could fight no more. We are happy to report that there is not a Allied vessal floating in the Med this summer. Considerable allied air power sitting in Crete though, I guess they just cant get enough of that warm Med sun.

Also of note Intel indicates Allied Carrier Fleet(s) based in South Africa either on their way to the Med or India.

Turn sent to Japan (Avatar47)

Screen Shot shows Sattalite View of Bismarks Maiden Voyage
and the 30 supples sitting at a damaged rail head in North Russia, Archangel I believe.

[Avatar47]

The Japs continue their advance into Siberia. 13 ground units ready to assault western Siberia next turn, the Russkies have 1 flak and 2 fighters there at the moment, so hopefully even with a full reinforcement there I'll still take it. I also have 84 supply stockpiled, and with more in the next 2 turns coming, I should have enough to contemplate a full attack on the DEI in Sp-Su42, maybe coinciding with a successful german attack on Moscow to get that AV....

[Marshall Art]

Summer 1941 - Stavka reports continued attacks by enemy forces but is confident that the Red Army will hold out until Winter when the time will come for a payback... Despite the Japanese Propaganda the Soviet Intelligence could not detect all of the 13 Land units opposite the Soviet defensive perimeter, unless the Japanese intend to use their Air force crews as cannon fodder on the ground? Either way they will be repulsed, as the cream of the Red Air Force has arrived in Siberia to fend of any air strikes - remember 1063th Fighter Squadron... [;)]
 
The first Lend-lease supplies were received emphatically and more than one bottle of Vodka was toasted on the donors...
 
China asks for the Burma Road to be opened.
 
Turn sent to mikemcmann.
 
 

[MrQuiet]

Fall 41

The Gods were against us this season.
Nothing went right.

2 7/7 German Infantry could not defeat 2 surpressed Scottish Milita that had no Artillary support.
6 dice each came up with a 10 and a 14, dam it!


Enemy Flack has no troube with my bombers, why does my flack not score???
I rolled the dreaded 1 bombard evasion roll twice in a row, getting really anoying.[:@]

Sent to Japan

[Avatar47]

Unhappy to see our German allies stumble on the East Front, Japan decides that to not continue into Siberia would mean certain doom for its ally. A major attack (with combined arms bonus) is launched on Central Siberia, with a withering attack. Only the lack of sufficient fighter support (4 against my 2) prevented a complete victory. Nevertheless, because Japanese screenshot powers are weak, more details are unavailable. Russia had to withdraw, and has only 4 units left east of the Urals. European reinforcements will definitely be brought in to defend against our onslaught, hopefully taking pressure off of Germany and buying them time to set things right...
 
I wonder in real life how much the Japs could have really the Germans. Considering they bungled it up in Mongolia in 38, I fail to see how they could do much better in 41, a scant 3 years later. I would imagine had they decided upon taking the 'Northern Solution', they would have amassed some, what, 25-30 divisions with which to attack the russians? Even had Vladivostok fallen and a large chunk of Siberia gone, would that have really made the 'difference'? My vote is most likely not.

[WanderingHead]

ORIGINAL: Avatar47
Considering they bungled it up in Mongolia in 38, I fail to see how they could do much better in 41, a scant 3 years later.

Could not much the same things be said about the Russians after the Winter War?

[Avatar47]

Yes, and the russians did bungle it up, and bungle it up badly. They lost 3+ million men before their strategy/tactics slowly started to change in 42-43. The Japs didn't decide to risk a similiar outcome in the Far East is my guess.

[Petiloup]

ORIGINAL: Avatar47

I wonder in real life how much the Japs could have really the Germans. Considering they bungled it up in Mongolia in 38, I fail to see how they could do much better in 41, a scant 3 years later. I would imagine had they decided upon taking the 'Northern Solution', they would have amassed some, what, 25-30 divisions with which to attack the russians? Even had Vladivostok fallen and a large chunk of Siberia gone, would that have really made the 'difference'? My vote is most likely not.

I think the question is more to wonder if the IJA would have been able to cross Siberia to attack the Urals from behind. The would be immense logistical work should surely say "no way". Japan should be limited to attack Coastal regions and Mongolia this would be more realistic.

[Forwarn45]

Don't want to hijack your AAR (enjoying all the new AAR's by the way - thanks MrQuiet)! But I think a Japanese attack through Siberia was viable if the Japanese committed to it - particularly after the German invasion and the commitment of some of the Soviet Siberian forces. But the Japanese would have had to commit the bulk of their production, resources, and manpower to the IJA to the expense of the IJN. I don't know how feasible this would have been as I think there was some political competition between the two. The Japanese certainly could have obtained air superiority after the German invasion, which in my view would have been key from a logistical standpoint.

[christian brown]

Something a great many folks don't think about much:
The IJA always had the majority of funding to the detriment of the IJN, not surprising considering that the Samurai class had always been soldiers, not sailors. Tojo was a General, not an admiral, as were his successors. This is why, even in 1945, you had literally hundreds of thousands of Japanese troops still in China (the fact that by that point they were hopelessly cut off and couldn't get back to the home islands didn't help either! [8|])

[Marshall Art]

Fall 1941 - surprisingly no further Attacks on Russia in the West - Is the Wehrmacht tired from the long march into Russia? A welcome rest for the hard pressed Red Army, time to put a stop on Japan's expansion. The commander of the Gorki AA regiment was promoted after his stunning success against enemy marauders. Germany researching Sub Evasion, more Uboats to come?
 
China - nothing happended.
 
turn sent to mikemcmann.

[Avatar47]

I think the right decision by the japanese would have been to withdraw from China in 40-41 as the Americans asked (but not manchuria), and invest those forces against the ussr in 41 along with barbarossa.

[Petiloup]

True if Germany and Japan had a common goal and strategy it could have benn but they both had their own agenda. Hitler did even declare war to the US hoping for Japan to declare War to Russia but that was another blunder.