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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41





And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the
heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back
to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) ..

also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being
routinely ignored by the ground commanders

Just an observation here -
I noticed the game date is Dec 15, 1941. The main Japanese landings on Luzon (at Lingayan) didn't even take place until Dec 22.
There is a lot in the Philippines (they held off the Japanese for 6 months)... perhaps you are getting a bit ahead of yourself and going too quickly?

Good luck,
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/15/41





And would you believe it disater at clarke field .. the infantry and artillery arrive BUT the
heavy division failed to make it ! it did on day 2 and will now almost certainly be forced back
to san marcelano (the PI is proving a disaster for japan right now ) ..

also jap tanke leap ahead at johore baru .. sent packing .. follow orders are being
routinely ignored by the ground commanders

Just an observation here -
I noticed the game date is Dec 15, 1941. The main Japanese landings on Luzon (at Lingayan) didn't even take place until Dec 22.
There is a lot in the Philippines (they held off the Japanese for 6 months)... perhaps you are getting a bit ahead of yourself and going too quickly?

Good luck,
Brian

Hi big B .. many thanks first up for all your hard work.

We both went into this mod blind, i.e without loading up as the other side. So frankly i went
ahead with the only model i had (stock) for invasion planning etc. the sheer number of new
units at clarke was a suprise i admit BUT IF all my troops had arrived at the same time then
i think i'd have held off a 2-1 and retreat (albeit it might have been tricky , depending
on whats left in manilla) .. Naga's well defended too ..
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 40
G3M Nell x 34
G4M1 Betty x 27

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 33
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-35A: 2 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 15 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 4 destroyed
Hi Rob,

Just curious about this air battle - were all of those P-40s destroyed A2A or were some killed on the ground?
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And - yeah, the stock game dosen't prepare you well for what to expect. Learning by experience is the school of hard knocks to be sure.

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air as the raid was against the port only .. seem too high to you ?
being used to stock its way down by that measure. some had also flown
over clarke on a smaller (not reported ) raid so they might be tired .
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air as the raid was against the port only .. seem too high to you ?
being used to stock its way down by that measure. some had also flown
over clarke on a smaller (not reported ) raid so they might be tired .
It seemed on the high side to be sure - but here is what I said on Aztez's AAR:
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As for your question all those losses were air to air combat related.
Ahh, well - a couple of observations about the game engine I found from testing many many hours:
1) He currently has max benefit of the Zero Bonus (as we all know).
2) His Zero squadrons are around 70 experience (if they are land based) to your likely 55 experience.
3) He probably came in two groups of around 20 Zeros each - to I am guessing - your 3 squadrons of about 11 each and one squadron of 6 P-40Bs. That would mean in combat he takes them on individually with at least two to one odds (yuch).
4) the game engine has a BIG random factor per air battle - that about 18% of the time delivers a good whipping to one side (I have never found a way around that one, don't think it can be done without re-writing the hard code).
5) I have no idea how fresh each sides pilots were - but that really weighs in, (and also - LOW Morale can be your friend when at a disadvantage in air combat because your guys won't stick around to be slaughtered).

Put all those factors together... and occaisionally everyone gets spanked pretty hard.

Sigh... Carry on!

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Big B , my fighters were pretty tired to be honest. iirc.

Khota baru is starting to be a bit of a pain. the BB's rolled up and started to shell the place
with good results imo.

Naval bombardment of Khota Bharu, at 24,45

Japanese Ships
DD Murakumo
DD Isonami
DD Asashio
DD Michishio
DD Arashio
CA Suzuya
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
391 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 35
Port hits 4
Port supply hits 2

I've landed some small NLF to bump up the AP a tad .. also diverting a division to songhika
(from burma) to support the 50th in its southerly drive.


Think i also got my 1st submarine kill .. plenty of ineffective ASW and dud torps (allied).

ASW attack at 47,46

Japanese Ships
PG Tamo Maru #7
PG Tamo Maru #6
PG Takunan Maru #8
PG Takunan Maru #3
APD APD-38
APD APD-35

Allied Ships
SS Sargo, hits 8, heavy damage

The reduced KB found by chance the very best of whats left of the allied ships in the DEI.
Marblehead sank instantly after 4 torp strikes and CA houston went down soo after . BANZAI


Day Air attack on TF at 21,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 42
D3A Val x 32
B5N Kate x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 3 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Houston, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
CL Marblehead, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Bulmer
DD John D. Edwards

Follow up attacks heavily damaged 2 more DD's .. recon reporting a lot of allied CA's ? at
batavia . KB to move up and see whats happening (kates on 2ndary port attack at 16k alt).

Day Air attack on TF at 21,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
D3A Val x 21
B5N Kate x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Whipple
CA Houston, on fire, heavy damage
DD Parrott, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD John D. Edwards, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Japanese sub blockade of the west coast nets a 2nd laden tanker . [:D]

Sub attack at 28,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-158

Allied Ships
TK Empire Unity, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground attack on khota baru .. why ? oh well we will attack tomorrow to take advantage
of the allied disruption, heavt attacks from sallies from thailand have badly damaged the
indian brigade and definatel stopped its recovery from this !

Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 11208 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 218

Defending force 32146 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 505

Allied max assault: 103 - adjusted assault: 9 [&:]

Japanese max defense: 524 - adjusted defense: 1005

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
591 casualties reported
Guns lost 4


many attacks on chinese guerillas have, i think, eliminated one .. otherwise the annoying gits
are retreating all over the place as japan tries to clear up its lines of communication. i am
persuing these annoyances all over china .. see piccie .

As just so japan does not think im asleep in the SW Pacific :-

Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami
CL Kiso
CL Tama
CL Kashima
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 41
Port supply hits 1

Japanese fighter sweep over manilla fails miserably .. should have been 40 odd oscars and 40
some zeros , only 12 oscars make it , and die horribly .

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 28
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 6 damaged


Sub attack at 142,53

Japanese Ships
SS I-21

Allied Ships
TK Alfred Clegg, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage Another tanker

Also had a bit of a scare when allied torpedoes hit the CA Maya (duds) phew !

Sub attack near San Marcelino at 43,50

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
DD Inazuma
DD Asagumo

Allied Ships
SS Pike, hits 1


Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 2333 troops, 10 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 56

Defending force 1356 troops, 3 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 17


Deliberate attack tomorrow ! Guam is proving an annoyance



Allied AV in hong kong looks way down .. also no counter fire today. attack tomorrow to try
and reduce the forts another level .. Canton seems safeer for now ..

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1746 troops, 45 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 509

Defending force 12943 troops, 102 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 233



Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

all for now ..

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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/23/41

Once again the oscars fly to Manilla , but this time in much better numbers and the results
reflect it.


Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 37
Ki-21 Sally x 18
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 5
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 5 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 6 destroyed, 10 damaged [:)]
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP President Madison, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Its difficult to decide what to do at manilla, Aztez has ships in port and at sea so its
way too east for some high morale units to fly into the jaws of P40 death. just see how well
nates cope :)


Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 7
Ki-30 Ann x 17

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 7 destroyed [:@]
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Latouche, heavy damage
AK Kanlaon II, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage


annoying i admit . humm not sure what to do , except go onto 100% naval search and hope for the
occasional bomb hit ? .. then again when they target somewhere out side manilla its results
as expected.

Day Air attack on TF, near Bataan at 42,51

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 17
Ki-30 Ann x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Far Far better.. have to think on this .

anyhoo . allies are regretting the khota baru attack yesterday as japan takes advantage
of the allied mistake.


Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32347 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 515

Defending force 9998 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Japanese max assault: 522 - adjusted assault: 392

Allied max defense: 87 - adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!

Guam finally fell too .. at long last [:D]


Ground combat at Guam

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 2421 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 59

Defending force 1376 troops, 3 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 17

Japanese max assault: 56 - adjusted assault: 60

Allied max defense: 15 - adjusted defense: 25

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Guam base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
730 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

also kuala lumpur falls to the 5th divisions drive down the malayan west coast. although the
brits took alor star back (however briefly)


Ground combat at Khota Bharu

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 32347 troops, 208 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 515

Defending force 9998 troops, 33 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 121

Japanese max assault: 522 - adjusted assault: 392

Allied max defense: 87 - adjusted defense: 65

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Khota Bharu base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
223 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Guns lost 7


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


Japanse arent upto taking johore baru yet . about even on AV .. but the jap shelling (with 4
artillery brigades ) is taking its toll on the defenders.


Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 28209 troops, 448 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 606

Defending force 31366 troops, 255 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 720



Allied ground losses:
221 casualties reported [:D]
Guns lost 8

Unfortunately the fly in the ointment was hong kong. losses were light however but no forts taken
down .. sigh .. might be here for a while


Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 28445 troops, 269 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 512

Defending force 12923 troops, 104 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 232

Japanese max assault: 517 - adjusted assault: 411

Allied max defense: 251 - adjusted defense: 1581

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 7)


Japanese ground losses:
152 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
162 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Meanwhile KB and betties from malaya damage and sink about 7 AK's and AP's
seemingly doing something on the sumatran west coast ? wonder what ?
and KB Kates hit batavia port losing 4 to flak and finding the harbour empty.
We can be consoled that the zeros decimated the defending buffs and wirraways.

I suspect there is a large allied airforce in soerbaja so we'll give it a wide berth
for now (CV's anyway). and as we have already got the best of the dutch and now the
US surface units its only the boise on the loose and i think shes damaged (lightly).
KB to be on invasion duty and lesser KB to head to the pacific after the landings at
kendari . KB will frobably cover the next step which is a leap to timor.

KB location


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RE: How to mess up japan, course 101

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Sorry for not updating for the 25th and 26th od december, both sides seem to have given the men
time off for christmas and nowt happened much.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/27/41

Periodic shelling of rabaul will hopefully prevent fort building and does cull the odd a/c


Naval bombardment of Rabaul, at 61,88


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CL Kitakami
CL Kiso
CL Tama
CL Kashima
CA Kako
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
BB Mutsu
BB Nagato


Allied ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 60
Port hits 1

In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi.
Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few.

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 44
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 26
P-40B Tomahawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 17
P-40B Tomahawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 10 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 2 destroyed

KB's coming here to drive the final nail in manilla harbour and decimate the allied a/c too.
I'd like to catch some damaged allied subs in port too. killing the AS would be a huge bonus.


Malacca falls to the 5th divisions drive south and the BF's retreat to kuantan, nice POW camp for
now [;)]. The allied get driven out of alor star by a pir of NFL units . these will block
the allies in georgetown for now.

Allied are over optomistic on ground assault and they try to remove the japs from moulmein,
all they have achieved is to guarantee a japanese assault next turn (2 divs +tanks +hq)

Ground combat at Moulmein

Allied Deliberate attack

Attacking force 21253 troops, 220 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 553

Defending force 47467 troops, 546 guns, 119 vehicles, Assault Value = 1048

Allied max assault: 475 - adjusted assault: 126

Japanese max defense: 1034 - adjusted defense: 524

Allied assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
460 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 2

Allied ground losses:
829 casualties reported

KB i.e Kaga/agaki/hiryu and soryu will strike manilla port and will have port attack as primary
mission to try and avoid unescorted strikes. fingers crossed .. several SS reported in port.

Confirmed sunk the 1st allied sub tody too APD's hammered S-37 in the china sea. the japanese ASW
is slowly getting better. sallies and nells fly ASW have spotted many subs and even hit a few.



Guns lost 39
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In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi.
Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few.

Something you may want to consider....

Zeros are (obviously) much better than IJAAF fighters, especially with the Zero bonus. Put Zeros on sweep over Manila. Use Oscars to escort the bombers. Keep Nates out of combat as much as possible and upgrade them to Oscars. The Zeros will knock down the CAP each day and allow the Oscars to survive that much better vs. the remaining Allied fighters.
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ORIGINAL: Rob Brennan UK
In an effort to cull the P40's at manilla , fighter sweeps ordered from san marck and legaspi.
Oscars seem to do 1-1 vs the dreaded allied plane while the zeros downed quite a few.

Something you may want to consider....

Zeros are (obviously) much better than IJAAF fighters, especially with the Zero bonus. Put Zeros on sweep over Manila. Use Oscars to escort the bombers. Keep Nates out of combat as much as possible and upgrade them to Oscars. The Zeros will knock down the CAP each day and allow the Oscars to survive that much better vs. the remaining Allied fighters.

good plan. KB failed to launch in both turns I've ramped up oscar production but its mostly
still repairing . nates are occasionslly doing the odd ground attack run in china. never seem to
have enough zeros to do everything yet .. still its early days and i will eventually fill out
the nome islands fighter groups and move them else where.

Anyhoo on with the story :-

Johore baru got its first taste of the sally today and runways badly damaged. he has no a/c
there but it will prevent fort construction.

Day Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 90

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 56

Japanese 1st attack failed miserably too. this is a big stack of commonwealth units and
will be hard to shift. although 3 more divs are in malaya mopping up/advancing etc. so
i should eventually have punch come mid january i guess. meanwhile the jap artillery
does hurt the brits.

Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 66933 troops, 865 guns, 241 vehicles, Assault Value = 1379

Defending force 30047 troops, 216 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 647

Japanese max assault: 1309 - adjusted assault: 699

Allied max defense: 618 - adjusted defense: 1127

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 5)


Japanese ground losses:
1151 casualties reported
Guns lost 56
Vehicles lost 3

Allied ground losses:
592 casualties reported
Guns lost 30


Ground combat at Johore Bahru

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5225 troops, 181 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1297

Defending force 29227 troops, 185 guns, 6 vehicles, Assault Value = 614



Allied ground losses:
145 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Hong kong was a similar story .. also getting runway atacks for the same reason. 1st attack at
least took a fort level down .. 2nd was bad [:@], but thats 2 day turns for you.

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 28673 troops, 275 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 519

Defending force 12652 troops, 92 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 225

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 6

Japanese max assault: 1042 - adjusted assault: 1658

Allied max defense: 225 - adjusted defense: 875

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 6


Japanese ground losses:
292 casualties reported
Guns lost 14
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 28301 troops, 266 guns, 11 vehicles, Assault Value = 500

Defending force 12648 troops, 93 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 222

Japanese max assault: 928 - adjusted assault: 334

Allied max defense: 185 - adjusted defense: 1063

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 6)


Japanese ground losses:
479 casualties reported
Guns lost 26
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
52 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

heres a list of japanese losses so far. about 2-3 not on the screenie and thay are AK's so no great
loss.




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Allied top losses so far .. plenty of surface combat kills.



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quick update ..

As december comes to a close KB finally launched on the annoying ships both in and out of
manilla harbour . :-

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 50
B5N Kate x 89

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 2
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 5 destroyed

Allied Ships
AP President Madison, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Capillo, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Corregidor, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sagoland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Otus, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Finch, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Bisayas, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Anakan, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
867 casualties reported
Guns lost 8
Vehicles lost 7

Port hits 5

lets hope the AS sinks, I'll try and hit it from a differant position tomorrow ..

Fighter sweeps with both Oscars and zeroes killed off about 14 more P40's and the vals
that flew unecorted faced no oposition.

Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25

Allied aircraft
P-26A x 1
P-35A x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-26A: 1 destroyed
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 8 destroyed


Val attacks sink all targets so far for no loss.

Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 22

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Don Jose, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 19

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Paz, Bomb hits 14, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 12

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Kanlaon II, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Latouche, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 38
Ki-15 Babs x 1

Allied aircraft
P-35A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-35A: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged

In china a second gueriila brigade surrenders near Peking ! hoorah these annoyances can
be stamped out, although its taking a lots of units to do it. the tank units in particular
have been excellent operation on the open plains.

Ground combat at 54,30

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 4859 troops, 81 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 94

Defending force 279 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 10

Japanese max assault: 122 - adjusted assault: 114

Allied max defense: 7 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 114 to 1



Allied ground losses:
592 casualties reported SURRENDERED

We'll go for another attack on johore baru tomorrow as a full division arrived and it appears
Aztez is pulling back from here. Gerogetown days are numbered too. He's been trying to recaptur
and block the north malayan bases. 2 NLF started the clearance and 2 tank units will ensure
that no more allied units try and recapture resources etc. 1/2 ing them over and over . so far
only alor star has been retaken and that doesn't have any to lose.



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Start of january has seem the fall of george town , now its a race between the new jap div that
reduced georgetown and the escapees from khota baru to kuala lumpur. to impede the allies 4
jap BB's will shell kuantan to kill off as much supply as possible.

Japanese are persuing the allies toward rangoon while 2 jap subs and several nells have sank over
6 TK's trying to evacuate oil and fuel from rangoon .. I boats in particular have been out standing.

Sub attack at 28,34

Japanese Ships
SS I-122

Allied Ships
TK Empire Onyx, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Meanwhile in malaya the japanese sallies have been putting both johore baru and singapore under
heavy air attack in an attempt to impede supply and in johore barus case to start hurting the
allied infantry based there. reduced forts by one so far, really do need the extra 2 divs to
reduce the forts and take singers.

HK gets bombed weakly but the allied levels are slowly going down .. now canton has been opened
up to roads from the east the clearing div will definately stop any chinese attempts to take canton.
HK is taking much longer than expected.(no matter though).

another CCP guerilla unit surrenders near shanghai. and 3 more routed by tanks back to chinese lines.
the guerillas it seems have been dealt with rather well imo. some extra support has been
sent to china from manchuria , tanks and artillery mainly, the armour is v v useful vs
partisans and the arty will help any attempts to try and drive into china. although i have no idea
if thats even possible with the mod .. advice here would be appreciated.


Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 21923 troops, 255 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 499

Defending force 3912 troops, 27 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 61

Japanese max assault: 990 - adjusted assault: 455

Allied max defense: 55 - adjusted defense: 73

Japanese assault odds: 6 to 1 (fort level 5)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0


Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
278 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Ground combat at Georgetown

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 21887 troops, 252 guns, 16 vehicles, Assault Value = 499

Defending force 3581 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 53

Japanese max assault: 990 - adjusted assault: 1772

Allied max defense: 46 - adjusted defense: 85

Japanese assault odds: 20 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Georgetown base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
72 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
5122 casualties reported
Guns lost 17

In the PI .. NLF units hoovering up the northern bases while 2 divs hold back from manills for
now. more men and material arriving at san marcelano .. will move into clarke soon (hopefully
all in one go) ..

just a quick update today .. next ops

Timor (div +CV's)
Rangoon then invest mandalay.
Singapore then ? maybe ceylon ? definately some to sumatra then squeeze java from 3 sides.
I'll have to start working on the SW Pacific and to that end engineers and BF's are unloading
at truk , just need MEN ! .. When HK falls one div is freed up .. PI or Rabaul (maybe even
port moresby as a fast slash and grab).

bye bye




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Rob,
Do you have any idea of how far you want to expand the Japanese Empire before you dig in and prepare for the Allied counter attacks??
India??
Northern Australia??
All of New Guinea??
Eastern Pacific Islands??
New Zealand??
Hawaii??
Russia??
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Rob,
Do you have any idea of how far you want to expand the Japanese Empire before you dig in and prepare for the Allied counter attacks??
India??
Northern Australia??
All of New Guinea??
Eastern Pacific Islands??
New Zealand??
Hawaii??
Russia??

I'm so new to japan i hadnt thought about 'limits' yet [;)]

India - possible if singers falls in jan/early feb . will almost certainly at least take ceylon.
I know the mod adds in a lot of 'india only' units but no idea as to thier size.


north aussie . not worth it imo on standard map with the rail road and the australia command units.
as allies i look forward to japan attacking the mainland .

all of NG .. definately on the radar . will be doing it backwards though .. (as an experiment)
i.e PM 1st then gili/lae etc. might leave rabaul to rot till NG is secure. will go for
lunga too.

NZ -nope

Hawaii - nope .. I'm in no position to go into the pac yet .. I had toyed with ignoring the PI
and hitting midway early on (aka nemos game). but im just not aware of what the allies have
anywhere as i have never loaded up the mod as allies (added FOW or stupidity ? take your pick [;)])


Russis is a definate no go zone , with china being a LOT bigger i think my hands will be full
trying to hold there rather than a russia adventure that i dont have enough troops to do.

Thanks for the comments .

Rob

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hm Rob, i'm happy to have Northern Oz in my hands... the truth is, enemy can try to counter attack you via railroad but you have plenty of time to bring reinforcements - all you have to do is to keep an eye on railroad (infamous hiting ZOC key)... also, didn't tested yet but i'm not sure that supplying units far away from the bases are so easy?

As Amiral well put it - Northern Australia has to be considered as island... and if Allies want to retake it they must use his CVs otherwise they are without air support...

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hm Rob, i'm happy to have Northern Oz in my hands... the truth is, enemy can try to counter attack you via railroad but you have plenty of time to bring reinforcements - all you have to do is to keep an eye on railroad (infamous hiting ZOC key)... also, didn't tested yet but i'm not sure that supplying units far away from the bases are so easy?

As Amiral well put it - Northern Australia has to be considered as island... and if Allies want to retake it they must use his CVs otherwise they are without air support...



True about the air support part bar some 4E that i think can reach from alice springs ( i always build this base as allies just in case).. australia might be an option once i have timor and have good recon on the 3 main bases there , darwin is sure to be well guarded but can be cut along the rail line and reduced . wyndam would make a good 1st call imo. so would thingybob . the one closest to Koepang if its badly garrisoned .. albeit unit numbers could be decieving as he might evac dutch bits and bobs here .. we will see. I still have to take sumatra and java 1st .. and i dont think thats as easy as it sounds .. [;)]

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 01/06/42

anyhoo new day .. exactly one month we have been at war and i'm happy to report the brits are
running , suprisingly he left johore baru ? im sure thats a level 4 fort and he could have delayed
here for a few days. also he's legging it in burma. rangoon is down to the fort unit by the
looks of it and hes withdrawing back to mandalay . banzai.

FYI he abandoned north phillipines so i have been hoovering up the bases with an NFL unit.
However ive been carful about not atacking the ones with resources as they change sides
without a fight and i believe are NOT halved by capture .. wonder if JB will do the same.
I'll attack anyway so if im lucky it'll fall before the ground attack phase and i get
all the goodies at 100% .. sneaky [;)]

singapore also drops 2 fort levels to a 4 but the 2nd day attack did nothig bar hurt japan.
rest bombard and repeat. sallies stop the forts rebuilding .

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 27373 troops, 223 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 454

Defending force 12346 troops, 74 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 213

Japanese max assault: 892 - adjusted assault: 939

Allied max defense: 195 - adjusted defense: 377

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1 (fort level 6)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 4


Japanese ground losses:
637 casualties reported
Guns lost 11
Vehicles lost 4

Allied ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Ground combat at Hong Kong

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 26630 troops, 206 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 416

Defending force 12208 troops, 68 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 210

Japanese max assault: 648 - adjusted assault: 183

Allied max defense: 159 - adjusted defense: 343

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 4)


Japanese ground losses:
406 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
244 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

Oscars encoutered 1/3 of the AVG in china and did rather well considering [;)]

Day Air attack on Changsha , at 47,36

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Curtis H81-3A x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Curtis H81-3A: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

I am fighter short in china , the 1st claude home defence unit has recieved Zeroes and will be
transferred to china as i need to tame the AVG as oscar production still needs 2 more months to
really ramp up .


Heres the usual daylight air raids , obviously the jhore baru missions will be switched to singapore
with 2 chutai on ground attack and 4 on airfield attacks. oscar escort provided. once the base
force reaches johore baru the sallies can be sent to much closer airfields.

Day Air attack on Hong Kong , at 43,42

Japanese aircraft
Ki-21 Sally x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
10 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on Johore Bahru , at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18
Ki-21 Sally x 90
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 70

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
18 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 17
Ki-15 Babs x 1

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 21000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 21000 feet
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Day Air attack on 12th CCP Guerilla Brigade, at 49,38

Japanese aircraft
C5M Babs x 1
Ki-49 Helen x 8

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
37 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 16th CCP Guerilla Brigade, at 48,42

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 8
Ki-27 Nate x 20

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet

I consider it important to try and train up as many ASW units as fast as possible . many have been
operating 6 ship TF's around the north philipines and experienced sallies have hit several.
2 more today ! ..

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Java can be a very tough nut, so can Timor but the speed your taking Malaya at Aztez shouldnt have much time to build up fortresses here.

Good job so far :).
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Thanks Joe , full division heading to koepang for an early grab .. covered by baby KB and some
heavy surface combat shipping too in case the allies have scraped a surface force together
somehow down here.


Made a typo in the last post it was hong Kong that was cracking not singapore .. sorry ..
Even so, Kuantan fell today and we have trapped 3 units between here and malacca .
3 more allied units made it to malacca but its not undefeneded, 2 tank units will
hopefully repel any unsupported allied attack .


Ground combat at Kuantan

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 20759 troops, 220 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 422

Defending force 1097 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 8

Japanese max assault: 764 - adjusted assault: 384

Allied max defense: 6 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 384 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Kuantan base !!!



Allied ground losses:
1619 casualties reported FMSV brigade surrenders


capture 10k supply here too, now thats useful. I will await all combat troops for singapore
before crossing that darn river , is that the best thing to do ? certainly will prevent
multiple shock attacks. Sally hammer i now hitting the fields at singapore , will do better
with more recon attached (i hope )


Day Air attack on Singapore , at 23,50

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 21
Ki-21 Sally x 86
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Catalina I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 20
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 51

Hopefully bagged another sub near san marcelano . ADP-1 did the dirty :-

ASW attack at 42,49

Japanese Ships
MSW W.9
MSW W.8
MSW W.7
APD APD-39
APD APD-2
APD APD-1

Allied Ships
SS S-36, hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

HK will get another shock attack tomorrow , fall ? doubt it but should tear a few fort levels
down. it'll fall soon i hope .

Japanese forces are now marching on clarke field in strength ( also hopefully in one lump)
should arrive next turn . Both tuagretaro and begulia have fallen intact in the north PI as
i'd hoped , both have 100 resources which i believe are the standard levels and not 1/2'd
from being attacked. so thats the north PI secured .

In the south PI 2 full divs and engineer and tank unit advance on manilla to siege the place
and prevent a withdrawl from clarke to here, also should stop all free supply production
with the hex contested.

Several invasions forces launched in the SW Pac and new guinea . shortlands and lunga are targetted
by 'expendable' SNLF units while the north NG oil centeres should fall to NFL units. Well they
do in stock and recon shows nothing.

I am collecting air droppable paras and the air capable SNLF units at victoria point for a potential
massed air attack on akyab ? if its weakly held . i havnt sent in recon yet so no idea but also
not tipping my hand yet either. IF its well held then they can all be used to secure north sumatra
and i will be building up sabang as a forward air base (its too useful imo) and allies
can build it anyway later on so no loss. should be a great betty base to intercept aussie
bound convoys.

japanese bombers harass the retreating allied troops in burma

Day Air attack on 2nd Burma Brigade, at 31,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
42 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

I made a error with KB and it went to a base with no bloody fuel ! situation sorted out
and she'll sail to truk to hunt in the S and SW Pac. [8|]

also many many AVG planes spoeed in china, 2 zero datai now tasked with heading here to
try a wrest air control back.

Aztez commented that the guerilla brigades i have killed off will return ? can anyone confirm
if they will come back in chungking ? (good) or behind my lines (bad). should hopefully kill
3 more i have trapped and surrounded tomorrow. i love the wee jap tank units in china for
anti-partisan duty , they rock ! (pinched 2 more from kuantan army to help)

for some odd reason the burmese army stalled at the river line and despite 2 attempts at follow
the leader i gave up and have sent them over independantly , dont have much luck with ground
movement [:D]



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Aztez commented that the guerilla brigades i have killed off will return ? can anyone confirm
if they will come back in chungking ? (good) or behind my lines (bad).

Hi Rob,

YES - the destroyed Gurerilla units will come back.

I don't think it would be right for me to say where they come back (Aztez may not want me to say)...so you'll just have to see. But the destroyed Chinese units come back.

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