Bloody shambles !

[Scott_USN]

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

User Hostile Interface, ALL THOSE DAMN COUNTLESS CLIKS ON THOSE DAMN SMALL SCREENS!!!!! DAMN!!!! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CLIKS just to make all plane transfer from ONE air base to another base or 20 out of 40 LCUs to move somewhere, ALL, ALL THOSE HUNDREDS CLICKS JUST TO GATHER SOME INFO FROM ALL OF THOSE SMALL SCREENS!!!!


I love this game.

[:D]

That was funny and true but I do love this game also.


Oh and I can see a dead mouse before 1944.[:'(]

[Vladd]

Some British / Australian pilots preferred the Buffalo over the Hurricane, having flown both types (See Hurricanes over Singapore and Buffaloes over Singapore  by Brian Cull). The Buffalo could certainly turn tighter than the Hurri, but was deficient in some other respects.
 
On the whole, there does't seem to be much in it between the two types. But the Buffs had the misfortune to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, whereas when the Hurris arrived the Allies had a better idea about what they were up against and what not to do when taking on a Ki27 or Ki43... 

[Rafael Warsaw]

ORIGINAL: Scott_USN

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

User Hostile Interface, ALL THOSE DAMN COUNTLESS CLIKS ON THOSE DAMN SMALL SCREENS!!!!! DAMN!!!! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CLIKS just to make all plane transfer from ONE air base to another base or 20 out of 40 LCUs to move somewhere, ALL, ALL THOSE HUNDREDS CLICKS JUST TO GATHER SOME INFO FROM ALL OF THOSE SMALL SCREENS!!!!


I love this game.

[:D]

That was funny and true but I do love this game also.


Oh and I can see a dead mouse before 1944.[:'(]

Well, Man, This is SERIOUS to me. I mean its not about a mouse its about a DAMN Time issue. I have an observation - 60% of time I spend playing this game is WASTED by HOSTILE and RIDICILOUS INTERFACE. Its just stupid, its like to put a great engine into a car You cant drive just because some of the designers put a damn triangle /\ seats into. Its ridiculous. Its STUPID beyond all recognition SBAR. DEV TEAM - FORGET ABOUT machine gun ranges or even a leader bug, DO SOMETHING WITH AN INTERFACE.

Jeeez, its like a talking about a mosquito bite when tiger took Your damn leg.

If You wont it is simple - no matter how hard You will work on different other aspects of this genius game (like a leader bug) it will die. You cant attract new players in 2007 with this type of approach. Sorry, You cant.

[bradfordkay]

The GUI in this game is far, far superior to it's spiritual predecessor, Pacific War.

This long after the release of the game system (with Uncommon Valor), you will not see any changes to the GUI, so you'd best learn to live with it and find something else to gripe about.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

You cant attract new players in 2007 with this type of approach. Sorry, You cant.

And yet... Somehow... It continues to attract new players with no problems whatsoever...

If this was an FPS, then you'd be right, but it isn't...

[wdolson]

Real time games are fashionable right now because the technology is there.  Not every gamer wants to play those sorts of games.

This board is the biggest on the Matrix site.  It's almost busier than every other game combined.  Even if you factor out The Thread, the volume here is still huge.  The second busiest forum on this site is for Steel Panthers, which is a fossil of the gaming world.

Few high school kids are going to take an interest in a game that could last longer than the rest of their school career.  Most of the people buying the game have an interest in the subject and want to explore it.

The trick to making a good long term profit is to find a new niche and serve it well.  Matrix is doing that.  Their most popular games aren't full of high tech goodies, they cover something in a way no other game does. 

There are things I'd like to see improved with the game.  When I was learning the game, I groaned at all the micromanaging.  As I learned the interface, I learned some tricks to reduce the micromangement and for the rest, I learned a pattern of what to check in which order during a turn.  It works.

Bill

[m10bob]

Hmmm..Thread went from the Brewster plane to an "interface problem"?
What problem?
Having to move individual units manually is not an "interface problem".
This is a monster wargame, with tens of thousands of individual units on a mapboard covering maybe a third of the earth?
Maybe a game of checkers would be more desired?

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: m10bob

Hmmm..Thread went from the Brewster plane to an "interface problem"?
What problem?
Having to move individual units manually is not an "interface problem".
This is a monster wargame, with tens of thousands of individual units on a mapboard covering maybe a third of the earth?
Maybe a game of checkers would be more desired?

YEAH!!!!...A GAME OF "CHECKIES"!!!!!

[DSwain]

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

ORIGINAL: Scott_USN

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

User Hostile Interface, ALL THOSE DAMN COUNTLESS CLIKS ON THOSE DAMN SMALL SCREENS!!!!! DAMN!!!! HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF CLIKS just to make all plane transfer from ONE air base to another base or 20 out of 40 LCUs to move somewhere, ALL, ALL THOSE HUNDREDS CLICKS JUST TO GATHER SOME INFO FROM ALL OF THOSE SMALL SCREENS!!!!


I love this game.

[:D]

That was funny and true but I do love this game also.


Oh and I can see a dead mouse before 1944.[:'(]

Well, Man, This is SERIOUS to me. I mean its not about a mouse its about a DAMN Time issue. I have an observation - 60% of time I spend playing this game is WASTED by HOSTILE and RIDICILOUS INTERFACE. Its just stupid, its like to put a great engine into a car You cant drive just because some of the designers put a damn triangle /\ seats into. Its ridiculous. Its STUPID beyond all recognition SBAR. DEV TEAM - FORGET ABOUT machine gun ranges or even a leader bug, DO SOMETHING WITH AN INTERFACE.

Jeeez, its like a talking about a mosquito bite when tiger took Your damn leg.

If You wont it is simple - no matter how hard You will work on different other aspects of this genius game (like a leader bug) it will die. You cant attract new players in 2007 with this type of approach. Sorry, You cant.

All that said, it's a heck of a lot sleeker than the old counters and maps of WG's "Pacific War"; about to deliver an Allied coup de grace against the Empire and here comes the cat and WHOA there goes several months of work

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: DSwain

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

ORIGINAL: Scott_USN



[:D]

That was funny and true but I do love this game also.


Oh and I can see a dead mouse before 1944.[:'(]

Well, Man, This is SERIOUS to me. I mean its not about a mouse its about a DAMN Time issue. I have an observation - 60% of time I spend playing this game is WASTED by HOSTILE and RIDICILOUS INTERFACE. Its just stupid, its like to put a great engine into a car You cant drive just because some of the designers put a damn triangle /\ seats into. Its ridiculous. Its STUPID beyond all recognition SBAR. DEV TEAM - FORGET ABOUT machine gun ranges or even a leader bug, DO SOMETHING WITH AN INTERFACE.

Jeeez, its like a talking about a mosquito bite when tiger took Your damn leg.

If You wont it is simple - no matter how hard You will work on different other aspects of this genius game (like a leader bug) it will die. You cant attract new players in 2007 with this type of approach. Sorry, You cant.

All that said, it's a heck of a lot sleeker than the old counters and maps of WG's "Pacific War"; about to deliver an Allied coup de grace against the Empire and here comes the cat and WHOA there goes several months of work

Not to mention screwing up your counters with those magnetic counter clips..

[Rafael Warsaw]

Yeah, I love this game too but I think that everyone I know was using ctr+click or ctrl+shift+click for a multiple selection for some time now. User interface is not user friendly but hostile and it really sucks. Face it.

[DuckofTindalos]

So? What's that got to with anything?

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

Yeah, I love this game too but I think that everyone I know was using ctr+click or ctrl+shift+click for a multiple selection for some time now. User interface is not user friendly but hostile and it really sucks. Face it.

Interface with the Brewster Buffalo???.
I think you are looking for the Tech Support thread, pilgrim?

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: Rafael Warsaw

User interface is not user friendly but hostile and it really sucks. Face it.

Damn hostile I tell you...why can't I use a joystick?[;)]

[DuckofTindalos]

And rudder pedals... And a throttle... And maybe one of those IR headbands that lets you control stuff by looking at it...

Sheesh...[8|]

[rtrapasso]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

And rudder pedals... And a throttle... And maybe one of those IR headbands that lets you control stuff by looking at it...

Sheesh...[8|]

It's in the new forthcoming upgrade - you have to fight each airplane action as the CO - if your plane gets shot down, your chair bursts into flames! [X(] [:'(]

[niceguy2005]

ORIGINAL: Vladd

Some British / Australian pilots preferred the Buffalo over the Hurricane, having flown both types (See Hurricanes over Singapore and Buffaloes over Singapore  by Brian Cull). The Buffalo could certainly turn tighter than the Hurri, but was deficient in some other respects.

On the whole, there does't seem to be much in it between the two types. But the Buffs had the misfortune to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, whereas when the Hurris arrived the Allies had a better idea about what they were up against and what not to do when taking on a Ki27 or Ki43... 

The main advantage Hurris had over Buffs was armament and survivability, which goes to the suggestion, don't try to dog fight with a Zero.

Buffs are often maligned and nearly as often over praised. The truth about Buffs is that they performed exactly as designed (when properly produced). They were, as someone else said, the first "modern" navy fighter. A quantum leap ahead of its predessor. It would perform well compared with most any other fighter with the same basic design characteristics.

However, it was vastly inferior to the Zero in terms of air superiority and it showed. Even with skilled pilots and proper maintenace there is no way these fighters were going to hold their own with Zeros, or even Oscars.

IMO witp actually models the early war fighters and that situation pretty well. Yes, there are a few inaccuracies in the data and what not. However, now that I am getting some expeinces with mods, I don't find them much better. They simply trade off one inaccuracy for another.

[m10bob]

Niceguy sez: "Attention!
<-------The aliens have come to take away all the sexy good looking people. I just wanted to say goodbye. "



Isn't that nice?....Niceguy is saying goodbye to those of us who are leaving![:D]

[Dixie]

I wonder how much of the RAF problems in the Far East were caused by a 'reversal' of capabilities.&nbsp; In Europe the RAF fighters were, in the main, better able to out-turn their opponents in dog fights with German types being more capable of high speed dives etc.&nbsp;

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: niceguy2005


However, now that I am getting some expeinces with mods, I don't find them much better. They simply trade off one inaccuracy for another.

BAAH!! A pox on your home....[:)]