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Good luck. Best not tell me about it though  [X(]

Thanks, Mart. Look, when we take a smokebreak, we have to go outside, and a security guard must accompany us. Believe me, security in a federal building is airtight. It is quite impressive.

Amenities like coffee, soft drinks and pastries are also provided to the jurors. They take care of us, but keep a close watch on us. However, I don't feel intimidated at all. To be completely honest, I'm enjoying the experience.
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Gee, me too.  I just got a letter threatening me with jail if I don't show up at the county courthouse on May 29.  The pay is twelve, count 'em twelve, dollars a day.[8|]  And no, your employer is not required to pay your regular salary if you end up on jury duty for months.  They don't pay shit for mileage, or even a bus ticket.  How you get there is your problem.  It's your duty as citizen to just suck it up and get thrown out on the street when you can't pay your rent.

And this while blood sucking lawyers are pulling down eight hundred dollars an hour.  No, not just eight hundred bucks an hour for every hour they actually spend in the courtroom boring the jurors to death, but eight hundred bucks an hour for every hour they claim they spend thinking about the case, even when they're out on the links.  They spend billable hours dreaming about the case, too.[8|]

My last jury duty is pretty much the same, only I thought it was the low rate it was for your stay altogether and not per day (Texas). In any event in the current system, making sure to think of poor third shifters like myself, they have enabled this fabulous call-in system. They give you like a full week you have to cover. Every day of that week you call in after 1600 to get a recorded message as to whether you have to serve a mere 16 or so hours later. Isn't that lovely? So basically I would get up at 1600 and call. If they said I had to come in I would call work and say I wasn't coming in that night, as there wouldn't be enough time for me to get off from there and still make it to court on time. Then of the 16 hours before I would have to be there, I would have to try to figure out some way to get some sleep (even though I just got up), because the jury duty would be right smack dab in the middle of the hours I would normally start sleeping.

Let's say that the first day they made me come in. When I got back from the duty I would then have to be at work perhaps as short as 6 hours after the jury duty, trying to figure out how to get more sleep again, simply because I would then have to stay up till approximately 830 again at work. And that's only the beginning. From what they told me, the perspective juror is responsible for the WHOLE WEEK. So if your case lasted only a day, you still have to call in the rest of the week and could be assigned again. Can you imagine in my situation how that would cause bedlam at my job? Sheesh, and to think that 40% of the days I work it is by myself. You would either have me asleep at work or asleep on jury duty.

The thing that really galls me is they are giviing you a mere 16 hours notice. I have only had to go through that process once so far, and to my delight they didn't end up using me. At least with the old system you had a set date weeks in advance and they might use you and they might not, but at least work knows not to count on you for any number of days in a row and there isn't any of this possible bouncing between work and jury duty in the same week.
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Well, folks, the trial's over, and we took another crack dealer off the streets of Charleston. We found the defendant guilty on two counts of possession of cocaine-base (crack) with intent for distribution.

We will have no idea of the sentencing, but I suppose that some mandatory sentencing in regards to the amounts of crack seized will have some bearing on it.

I'm proud of the folks I served with. We deliberated for nearly two hours, as we were required to reach a unanimous decision. There was no rush to judgement, which I thought was commendable.

PS as for the relevance of this topic, let me just say that another small battle was won in an ongoing war against this particularly insidious and addictive drug.

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From what they told me, the perspective juror is responsible for the WHOLE WEEK. So if your case lasted only a day, you still have to call in the rest of the week and could be assigned again. Can you imagine in my situation how that would cause bedlam at my job? Sheesh, and to think that 40% of the days I work it is by myself. You would either have me asleep at work or asleep on jury duty.

It's only been about two years since I had jury duty in a county court case, but at least at that level you only have "one day, one case". If your not empanelled that Monday, you're released. You get $6 for your effort which, unsurprisingly, equals the parking fee for the garage next to court. Never been called up for state district or federal. They probably have better donuts.
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Never been called for Fed duty that would be cool. Although I was dismissed in the 3 summons I have had. [:D]
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PS After serving Tuesday & Wednesday, I received a US Treasury check for $105.03 on Saturday. So, $80 for base pay plus $25.03 as reimbursement for mileage/parking. Not too bad, but, with my luck, this might bump me into a higher income tax bracket at the end of the year. [8|]
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I've served a couple times and it has always sucked.
 
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Well, folks, the trial's over, and we took another crack dealer off the streets of Charleston. We found the defendant guilty on two counts of possession of cocaine-base (crack) with intent for distribution.

We will have no idea of the sentencing, but I suppose that some mandatory sentencing in regards to the amounts of crack seized will have some bearing on it.

I'm proud of the folks I served with. We deliberated for nearly two hours, as we were required to reach a unanimous decision. There was no rush to judgement, which I thought was commendable.

PS as for the relevance of this topic, let me just say that another small battle was won in an ongoing war against this particularly insidious and addictive drug.

Good to see a crack dealer go down.

I lived in southeast Queens (NYC) during the mid and late 80's and crack went through that area like the Black Plague from about 1982 onward. Crackheads would steal your lawn furniture and try to sell it to your neighbors for $5.

Things got somewhat better when they started enforcing the RICO statute and seizing the crackhouses. So many people that I grew up with ended up dead or in jail because of that, I'd estimate at least 60% to 70% of the people that I'd gone to intermediate school with. A friend who was an engineer ended up begging for spare change in front of the supermarket two blocks away.

Its a lot better now than it was then. A lot of people didn't like Rudy Giuliani when he was mayor here but he sure as hell made a huge difference in my neighborhood and the residents haven't allowed it to fall back into the horror it used to be.
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Well, folks, the trial's over, and we took another crack dealer off the streets of Charleston. We found the defendant guilty on two counts of possession of cocaine-base (crack) with intent for distribution.

We will have no idea of the sentencing, but I suppose that some mandatory sentencing in regards to the amounts of crack seized will have some bearing on it.

I'm proud of the folks I served with. We deliberated for nearly two hours, as we were required to reach a unanimous decision. There was no rush to judgement, which I thought was commendable.

PS as for the relevance of this topic, let me just say that another small battle was won in an ongoing war against this particularly insidious and addictive drug.

Good to see a crack dealer go down.

I lived in southeast Queens (NYC) during the mid and late 80's and crack went through that area like the Black Plague from about 1982 onward. Crackheads would steal your lawn furniture and try to sell it to your neighbors for $5.

Things got somewhat better when they started enforcing the RICO statute and seizing the crackhouses. So many people that I grew up with ended up dead or in jail because of that, I'd estimate at least 60% to 70% of the people that I'd gone to intermediate school with. A friend who was an engineer ended up begging for spare change in front of the supermarket two blocks away.

Its a lot better now than it was then. A lot of people didn't like Rudy Giuliani when he was mayor here but he sure as hell made a huge difference in my neighborhood and the residents haven't allowed it to fall back into the horror it used to be.
I agree with you 100% on Giuliani I used live on 47th btwn 9th and 10th 4 bldgs away from Hells Kitchen park and what difference the mayor made, (remember they used to call him Adolph Guiliani) but he cleaned a part of NYC that was corrupt for decades he was no joke on crime and he stood with the thin blue line...You a Yankee or Met fan?
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Laurelton, a few blocks off the Laurelton Belt Pkwy. Pretty close to Belmont Racetrack. Its relatively quiet now and I have great neighbors so its worth a few negatives to be there.
Bayside is a pretty nice area. Mets fan of course, how could you grow up and live in Queens and be a Yankers fan?
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Family would sell me on the black market if I turned out a Met fan at birth, they all were raised in Brooklyn after the Dodgers left it was the Yankees, the Mets play in Flushing, there AAA club is the Flushing Toilets[;)]
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From what they told me, the perspective juror is responsible for the WHOLE WEEK. So if your case lasted only a day, you still have to call in the rest of the week and could be assigned again. Can you imagine in my situation how that would cause bedlam at my job? Sheesh, and to think that 40% of the days I work it is by myself. You would either have me asleep at work or asleep on jury duty.

It's only been about two years since I had jury duty in a county court case, but at least at that level you only have "one day, one case". If your not empanelled that Monday, you're released. You get $6 for your effort which, unsurprisingly, equals the parking fee for the garage next to court. Never been called up for state district or federal. They probably have better donuts.

I'm sorry, I forgot about this thread, seeing as how the forums are so prevalent with bullets to remind you [8|]. I don't know about any of the different types of trials and what that means for whether you're on call or not, but this was in 2006, so I would have to hope they haven't changed things across the board for that abominable situation I mentioned.
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Family would sell me on the black market if I turned out a Met fan at birth, they all were raised in Brooklyn after the [:D]Dodgers left it was the Yankees, the Mets play in Flushing, there AAA club is the Flushing Toilets[;)]
Q: What do you think of Flushing, New York?
A: That's a great idea!
Flushing sucks... Have you seen the plans for the area surrounding the Mets new stadium? Going to raze all the chop shops and junkyards and redo the entire Willets Point area. It'll still stink like all get out at low tide though LOL. Citi Field, can you guess what they'll be calling that when the Mets go a couple of losing seasons? [:D] Yup, that's right... exactly what you thought.
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Q: What do you think of Flushing, New York?
A: That's a great idea!

Man! I remember commuting from Bay Terrace to Port Authority it took almost two hours!!! Last Stop on the Q28 to last stop on the #7, yahoo...
Shea, fun times there...They had The Who, with The Clash and David Johansson play there, great show...everybody was stamping thier feet during the fiddle solo in Baba O'Riely I thought the mezzanine was gonna fall!
They ever find Hoffa yet, bet he is under one the chop shops, (probably whole buncha inconveniences will be unearthed there[;)]).
Freak Show still at Coney Island? Gotta be, right.

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Q: What do you think of Flushing, New York?
A: That's a great idea!

Man! I remember commuting from Bay Terrace to Port Authority it took almost two hours!!! Last Stop on the Q28 to last stop on the #7, yahoo...
Shea, fun times there...They had The Who, with The Clash and David Johansson play there, great show...everybody was stamping thier feet during the fiddle solo in Baba O'Riely I thought the mezzanine was gonna fall!
They ever find Hoffa yet, bet he is under one the chop shops, (probably whole buncha inconveniences will be unearthed there[;)]).
Freak Show still at Coney Island? Gotta be, right.

Commuting![:@] With all the track work I don't get home until 2:30 AM every night. I'll be glad when they're done on May 30th and go screw up someone else's commute[:'(]
Isn't Hoffa under the goalpost in Giants Stadium? Inconveniences? In Willets Point you say? But its such a nice area[8|] Check Flushing Bay, I'm sure there are some of what I call... East River Sea Anemones (skeletons wearing cement shoes) there.
There will be big changes at Coney Island, the rides and everything are closed and the area has been under development. Mets farm team, Brooklyn Cyclones plays there and the place is so many times cleaner than the last time I'd been there (more than 20 years ago) that I was shocked when I took my wife there last year because she wanted to see it.
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One more thing -- it's no big deal to be summoned as a juror, but I think every American citizen should experience it at least once. If you're lucky enough to be actually selected as a trial juror, then it's your chance to see how the American judicial system actually works, not the version we see on TV series and in movies.

Having previously served as a juror in a murder trial, most of it is just waiting to be called. It's important to have a good book handy.

It's unlikely that I'd be needed for maybe more than a day or two, but the possibility does exist that I'd get picked as a trial juror, which means I could disappear under the radar for awhile. We'll see.

I've never been called for jury duty before, (Probably will now that I have said that) but I was a witness at a trial once. I was working at a repair facility and was closing up on a Saturday when this lady started waving a gun at some kids in another car. I called it in to 911 and was able to give a really good description of both cars (Since I was at a repair place I knew what cars they were) and I got the plates. This was at a mall in a nice middle class neighborhood so it was a bit shocking. Anyways, I was called as a witness at the trial and I got to quote what I heard and probably got to use some words that aren't normally heard in a courtroom. Since I was working at the time of the incident, my employer paid me for the time that I was in court (ended up spending the entire day there until I was called). The county gave me mileage and like $25 for my time. It was interesting but I never heard what the final results were. I don't even know what the person was ended up being charged with.
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I have been called 5 times to serve but I was able to plead hardship because I'm the only bread winner. It has been said after six excuses (like hardship above) californians are forced to serve.
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One more thing -- it's no big deal to be summoned as a juror, but I think every American citizen should experience it at least once. If you're lucky enough to be actually selected as a trial juror, then it's your chance to see how the American judicial system actually works, not the version we see on TV series and in movies.

Having previously served as a juror in a murder trial, most of it is just waiting to be called. It's important to have a good book handy.

It's unlikely that I'd be needed for maybe more than a day or two, but the possibility does exist that I'd get picked as a trial juror, which means I could disappear under the radar for awhile. We'll see.

I've never been called for jury duty before, (Probably will now that I have said that) but I was a witness at a trial once. I was working at a repair facility and was closing up on a Saturday when this lady started waving a gun at some kids in another car. I called it in to 911 and was able to give a really good description of both cars (Since I was at a repair place I knew what cars they were) and I got the plates. This was at a mall in a nice middle class neighborhood so it was a bit shocking. Anyways, I was called as a witness at the trial and I got to quote what I heard and probably got to use some words that aren't normally heard in a courtroom. Since I was working at the time of the incident, my employer paid me for the time that I was in court (ended up spending the entire day there until I was called). The county gave me mileage and like $25 for my time. It was interesting but I never heard what the final results were. I don't even know what the person was ended up being charged with.

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I have reported a few times but being in Corrections no defense attorney wants me.
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