Come on Matrix lets be honestly clear about this game

[FrattonFreak]

In fairness I think having waited so far with a patch in the making it wouldn't have been unreasonable to wait for the 'patch' before releasing this and have it go gold with the first release?

Well thas my view, perhaps not all agree?

Poor Matrix..damned if they do and damned if they dont[:D]

[DBeves]

Which is exactly my point - if the patch is so close why push it out the door half done ?



With regard to the rather lame fanboi bleating in the previous posts

I quote

"Look at the other posts for these complainers, it is all they do.... "

Dont stereotype me into some kind of troll on the board and I wont do the same to you...

[ScotAlex]

ORIGINAL: DBeves


With regard to the rather lame fanboi bleating in the previous posts

The difference is that I was not insulting you, by calling you a name. I tried to let it pass with a little humor.

[David Heath]

Hi Guys

We clearly stated that the release version as a mistake and we would issue a patch to correct our first mistake.  Now we are double and triple checking to make sure everything is correct this time around.  It was not a matter of waiting and not needing the patch.

[MemoryLeak]

DBeves is a professional whiner and a moron and not worth responding to. Yes I called him a name. Accurate but not allowed. Sorry. It is time for him to stop with his complaining. I have been playing the game and it is as enjoyable as I remember the orignal to be. Good work. Matrix has a lot of dedicated people working hard to make these games available for us.

[freeboy]

Matrix does correct in timely fashion, this looks like a winner if only that darned CAW did not go gold!

[jchastain]

ORIGINAL: MemoryLeak
DBeves is a professional whiner and a moron and not worth responding to. Yes I called him a name. Accurate but not allowed. Sorry. It is time for him to stop with his complaining. I have been playing the game and it is as enjoyable as I remember the orignal to be. Good work. Matrix has a lot of dedicated people working hard to make these games available for us.

In my opinion, this comment goes way too far and is inappropriate. Clearly I am not afraid to criticize disagreeable comments, and I have done so. But criticizing someone's comments is far different in my mind from blatant personal assults such as this one. We've all been guilty of this from time to time, but let's please try and keep our emotions in check and not turn a disagreement about a game into something personal.

[Erik Rutins]

I agree - everyone please refrain from making personal attacks. As I said on another thread, there are some legitimate gripes with some mistakes we made in the release. We are working to fix those and have no problem taking a few lumps for letting them slip past us. Once these problems are resolved, I'm sure the folks who are now complaining will be much happier, but it's their right to give us some flak when we screw up. We're big boys, we can take it too.

Regards,

- Erik

[ravinhood]

Ermmmm,whats a fanboi?

Ok i'll get me coat.

Fanboi is an over zealous fan and gains boi for a "Boisterous Otiose Indomitable" personality.

[Alan_Bernardo]

The way I see this is that Matrix has made an unfortunate error.  It's not the end of the world.  To make claims of false advertising is only valid if it
can be proven that it was done intentionally to mislead.
 
Game over.  Case closed.  I've seen worse mistakes, mistakes that have cost lives.  This mistake was regrettable but harmless.  By the end of the week all will be cleaned up and the world will be a better place.
 
 
Alan

[Zeitgeist]

I went ahead and bit the bullet, and I bought this game today

I played the talonsoft campaign series for hours on end regularly, and still have the discs lying around.


Matrix, I have faith in you to make this purchase worth it.

regards,

Patrick  

[parusski]

ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd

No...no....I agree. I was saying the fanboi comment was lame.

I must be a fanboi too. But that's not really it....simply that I've been at Matrix long enough to know they do not rip people off, they do not false advertise and they do not steal. If I understand all that and it makes me a fanboi, then so be it.

Well JudgeDredd I must force myself to admit you are spot on. I have been an active member of the board since 2000, and playing SPWAW so long I have forgotten when it was released-Mid 90's???

I have purchased the following games from Matrix:
SPWAW:Generals edition
Close Combat: Cross Of Iron
Gary Grigsbys World at War
Across The Dnepr
Battles in Italy
Battles in Normandy
Campaigns on the Danube
Flashpoint Germany
Korsun Pocket
The Operational Art of War
Forge Of Freedom
War In the Pacific
Tin Soldiers: Alexander the Great

And I will soon be buying:
John Tiller's Campaign Series
Carriers at war.

That is 13 of the 45 games Matrix has. The only reason I did not buy the others is they are not my type of games. But of the ones I purchased I have NEVER felt ripped off. Oh a couple of games did not hold my interest long, but so what. There is no other single computer game company out there that has come close to getting me to buy so many of the lame games. The Sid Meirs Civ series is second to Matrix and that is only 4 games plus 3 or 4 expansions. Yet I always come back and spend waaaaaaaaay to much time playing the Matirx games. And I am happy to do so. Kudos to all of you at Matrix and to the loyal fans.[X(]

[JudgeDredd]

Well JudgeDredd I must force myself to admit you are spot on

Come on....one minute you r digging me and the next this!....You are messing with my mind, aint ya?[;)]

[parusski]

Are you paranoid after my gracious concession on the forum and in the pm????? HMMMM. Maybe you do have blonde hair-haha-just kidding. I, was agreeing 100% with the statement I quoted about about you trusting Matrix. I get so d*m% tired of the whiners.

Our truce will stay in place until you annoy me again.[:D][:'(][:)][&o][:'(]

Pluse my little mission to get you to crack has me up at 3:01a.m. I really need to calm down.

[JudgeDredd]

[:D]

[DBeves]

ORIGINAL: jchastain

ORIGINAL: MemoryLeak
DBeves is a professional whiner and a moron and not worth responding to. Yes I called him a name. Accurate but not allowed. Sorry. It is time for him to stop with his complaining. I have been playing the game and it is as enjoyable as I remember the orignal to be. Good work. Matrix has a lot of dedicated people working hard to make these games available for us.

In my opinion, this comment goes way too far and is inappropriate. Clearly I am not afraid to criticize disagreeable comments, and I have done so. But criticizing someone's comments is far different in my mind from blatant personal assults such as this one. We've all been guilty of this from time to time, but let's please try and keep our emotions in check and not turn a disagreement about a game into something personal.

Absolutely. Yet another discussion on this board decends into purile name calling Yawwwwn.


I should point out that the ScottAlex user actually sent me a private message stating he had reported me to matrix because I had called him "Gay" and that I should be careful what I say in a public forum. Of course as everyone can see I did no such thing. Really matrix - if doing such a thing is not an abuse of privellege and this user isnt banned for at least a while then what is the point of moderating this forum at all. Its just unpleasant, and I dont come here for that.

They really should put a minimum age limit, lets say ten years old, to prevent people like ScottAlex posting at all.

As for memoryleak - well I really do find it distasteful that certain people use avatars and signatures that attempt to portray some kind of formal military service when they are quite plainly not old enough to have done so...

[DBeves]

And for what it is worth - I have bought every single game in the matrix catalogue ... so I am a professional moaner who supports this compny more than most ...

[parusski]

You know moaning is not exclusively for Matrix. I love my job, but holly cow I moan and groan about it everyday. And I am still with the same company 11 years later. The same reasons apply to MATRIX?.

[JudgeDredd]

ORIGINAL: DBeves

And for what it is worth - I have bought every single game in the matrix catalogue ... so I am a professional moaner who supports this compny more than most ...

Really? And you've only posted 86 times?

[ScotAlex]

Absolutely. Yet another discussion on this board decends into purile name calling Yawwwwn.


I should point out that the ScottAlex user actually sent me a private message stating he had reported me to matrix because I had called him "Gay" and that I should be careful what I say in a public forum. Of course as everyone can see I did no such thing. Really matrix - if doing such a thing is not an abuse of privellege and this user isnt banned for at least a while then what is the point of moderating this forum at all. Its just unpleasant, and I dont come here for that.

They really should put a minimum age limit, lets say ten years old, to prevent people like ScottAlex posting at all.

Defenition of BOI which is what you called me.

Boi is a deliberately altered spelling of boy that has become recently fashionable, and is sometimes used as a synonym for male when referring to young adults. 'Boi' is often used within the gay community to refer to a young-appearing (and in reality relatively young) bisexual or homosexual male, especially one who is somewhat effeminate, or who merely wishes to distinguish himself with a different term from heterosexual boys. The term Boi is also commonly used by those who are female to male transgendered.[citation needed]

It may also refer to a female-born or female-bodied person—sometimes transsexual, transgendered, or intersexed, sometimes not—who generally does not identify as, or only partially identifies as feminine, female, a girl, or a woman, although some 'bois' identify as one or more of these.

Defenition of Libel
libel


An untruthful statement about a person, published in writing or through broadcast media, that injures the person's reputation or standing in the community. Because libel is a tort (a civil wrong), the injured person can bring a lawsuit against the person who made the false statement.

Let me know if you need help with any of the big words...and if you are whine about me at least spell my tag right.