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[:(]What exactly are you looking for from us Ike? I mean besides conflict. Are you legitimately looking for answers? Please tell me , before I waste anytime researching this one. [:(]


While I have no real proof..., I'm beginning to suspect that IKE is a "Steakhouse Moron". He began with an innocent enough inquiry, but has since turned the post into an endless stream of antagonism and name-calling. That sounds very much like the typical "moron" effort.
[:(]OK , thanks. That leads to a new question...Instead of "what does he want?" , the question now becomes "what do they want?" What exactly are "they" looking for? I know the moderator of that esteemed organization seems to be on a recruiting drive. But the rest? Damned if I can figure it out! [:(][&:]

FFS! Here we go again with the Steakhouse Moron crap. Before you start throwing these allegations around, why dont you just go over there and check to see if there is a user posting under the name Ike. Its very easy to do, just go to the memberlist and do a search. You would have found that Ike is not a member of the steakhouse. In fact Ike was recently involved in a bust up with members from the steakhouse in the general discussion thread. I dont think he has many friends over there.

Steve you need to reign in the paranoia a bit mate. People at the steakhouse don't sit around all day thinking "hmm, how can we piss off the guys at Matrix today?".
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While I have no real proof..., I'm beginning to suspect that IKE is a "Steakhouse Moron". He began with an innocent enough inquiry, but has since turned the post into an endless stream of antagonism and name-calling. That sounds very much like the typical "moron" effort.
[:(]OK , thanks. That leads to a new question...Instead of "what does he want?" , the question now becomes "what do they want?" What exactly are "they" looking for? I know the moderator of that esteemed organization seems to be on a recruiting drive. But the rest? Damned if I can figure it out! [:(][&:]

FFS! Here we go again with the Steakhouse Moron crap. Before you start throwing these allegations around, why dont you just go over there and check to see if there is a user posting under the name Ike. Its very easy to do, just go to the memberlist and do a search. You would have found that Ike is not a member of the steakhouse. In fact Ike was recently involved in a bust up with members from the steakhouse in the general discussion thread. I dont think he has many friends over there.

Steve you need to reign in the paranoia a bit mate. People at the steakhouse don't sit around all day thinking "hmm, how can we piss off the guys at Matrix today?".
[:)]I'm glad to hear it. But the question was rhetorical. I'm not really paranoid. But I am curious why people bait other people on this site. And no one answers me. I've offered to talk to people one on one ,via e-mail , hell , I'll give them my phone number or meet them over a beer. No one answers. And that included the folks at the steakhouse. Doggie kindly invited me to join , but that still doesn't answer WHY? Surely there are more and easire ways to succeed at this. And if you want a good old fashion pissing contest , you guys at the steak house are both good at it and relish a good fight. You'd be better at it , with less restraints. So what is it that makes baiting the people on this forum such an attraction? That's the kind of question that makes consider chucking history as a career and taking up psychology. What's the real scoop Mac? You swim in both ponds--e-mail me the answer , would you?
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[:(]What exactly are you looking for from us Ike? I mean besides conflict. Are you legitimately looking for answers? Please tell me , before I waste anytime researching this one. [:(]


Don't have any proof, but I'm beginning to suspect IKE is a "Steakhouse Moron". He started out asking what seemed to be a straightforward question, but has since lead all discussion towards conflict and name-calling. Sounds like a "moron" to me....
No look at the falklands debate in the main forum. ike has managed to have both the steak house and the witp forum guys agree on something. and thats him.
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While I have no real proof..., I'm beginning to suspect that IKE is a "Steakhouse Moron". He began with an innocent enough inquiry, but has since turned the post into an endless stream of antagonism and name-calling. That sounds very much like the typical "moron" effort.
[:(]OK , thanks. That leads to a new question...Instead of "what does he want?" , the question now becomes "what do they want?" What exactly are "they" looking for? I know the moderator of that esteemed organization seems to be on a recruiting drive. But the rest? Damned if I can figure it out! [:(][&:]

FFS! Here we go again with the Steakhouse Moron crap. Before you start throwing these allegations around, why dont you just go over there and check to see if there is a user posting under the name Ike. Its very easy to do, just go to the memberlist and do a search. You would have found that Ike is not a member of the steakhouse. In fact Ike was recently involved in a bust up with members from the steakhouse in the general discussion thread. I dont think he has many friends over there.

Steve you need to reign in the paranoia a bit mate. People at the steakhouse don't sit around all day thinking "hmm, how can we piss off the guys at Matrix today?".
He is not a steakhouse guy all the steak house guys crucified him during the argentina v uk falklands debate.
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[:(]OK , thanks. That leads to a new question...Instead of "what does he want?" , the question now becomes "what do they want?" What exactly are "they" looking for? I know the moderator of that esteemed organization seems to be on a recruiting drive. But the rest? Damned if I can figure it out! [:(][&:]

FFS! Here we go again with the Steakhouse Moron crap. Before you start throwing these allegations around, why dont you just go over there and check to see if there is a user posting under the name Ike. Its very easy to do, just go to the memberlist and do a search. You would have found that Ike is not a member of the steakhouse. In fact Ike was recently involved in a bust up with members from the steakhouse in the general discussion thread. I dont think he has many friends over there.

Steve you need to reign in the paranoia a bit mate. People at the steakhouse don't sit around all day thinking "hmm, how can we piss off the guys at Matrix today?".
[:)]I'm glad to hear it. But the question was rhetorical. I'm not really paranoid. But I am curious why people bait other people on this site. And no one answers me. I've offered to talk to people one on one ,via e-mail , hell , I'll give them my phone number or meet them over a beer. No one answers. And that included the folks at the steakhouse. Doggie kindly invited me to join , but that still doesn't answer WHY? Surely there are more and easire ways to succeed at this. And if you want a good old fashion pissing contest , you guys at the steak house are both good at it and relish a good fight. You'd be better at it , with less restraints. So what is it that makes baiting the people on this forum such an attraction? That's the kind of question that makes consider chucking history as a career and taking up psychology. What's the real scoop Mac? You swim in both ponds--e-mail me the answer , would you?

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[:)]I'm glad to hear it. But the question was rhetorical. I'm not really paranoid. But I am curious why people bait other people on this site. And no one answers me. I've offered to talk to people one on one ,via e-mail , hell , I'll give them my phone number or meet them over a beer. No one answers. And that included the folks at the steakhouse. Doggie kindly invited me to join , but that still doesn't answer WHY? Surely there are more and easire ways to succeed at this. And if you want a good old fashion pissing contest , you guys at the steak house are both good at it and relish a good fight. You'd be better at it , with less restraints. So what is it that makes baiting the people on this forum such an attraction? That's the kind of question that makes consider chucking history as a career and taking up psychology. What's the real scoop Mac? You swim in both ponds--e-mail me the answer , would you?

All you have to do is look at Mike Scholl's post for the answer.

For some strange reason some folks here think they're better than the folks at the Steakhouse. They seem ignorant of the fact that "the Steakhouse guys" were virtually all "Matrix guys" before there ever was a Steakhouse - and they're still Matrix guys for the most part. Steakhouse dwellers do tend to relish a good war of words. That's why nobody should be surprised when they respond in kind when they get called out. Don't want a fight with the Steakhouse then stop referring to the Steakhouse negatively.

We've all got the same right to be here at Matrix and virtually everyone is welcome at the Steakhouse. The whole squabble is ridiculous. Disparaging the Steakhouse is the equivalent of disparaging any subforum here at Matrix. How about we start calling "The Thread" participants idiots?

I stopped frequenting the Steakhouse awhile back but some of the crap I see here at Matrix really makes me want to sport one of those "Proud Steakhouse Moron" sigs.
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problem is you have to identify those wanting to start a war of words from those who are ignorant (Chinese Lancasters) from those who honestly believe something and their use of English (being their 2nd/3rd language) makes them appear rude/ignorant.
 
I would also support the more frequent use of the sarcasm smiley   [:'(]  Just isnt big enough
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How about we start calling "The Thread" participants idiots?
I do all the time[:D]
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[:)]I'm glad to hear it. But the question was rhetorical. I'm not really paranoid. But I am curious why people bait other people on this site. And no one answers me. I've offered to talk to people one on one ,via e-mail , hell , I'll give them my phone number or meet them over a beer. No one answers. And that included the folks at the steakhouse. Doggie kindly invited me to join , but that still doesn't answer WHY? Surely there are more and easire ways to succeed at this. And if you want a good old fashion pissing contest , you guys at the steak house are both good at it and relish a good fight. You'd be better at it , with less restraints. So what is it that makes baiting the people on this forum such an attraction? That's the kind of question that makes consider chucking history as a career and taking up psychology. What's the real scoop Mac? You swim in both ponds--e-mail me the answer , would you?

All you have to do is look at Mike Scholl's post for the answer.

For some strange reason some folks here think they're better than the folks at the Steakhouse. They seem ignorant of the fact that "the Steakhouse guys" were virtually all "Matrix guys" before there ever was a Steakhouse - and they're still Matrix guys for the most part. Steakhouse dwellers do tend to relish a good war of words. That's why nobody should be surprised when they respond in kind when they get called out. Don't want a fight with the Steakhouse then stop referring to the Steakhouse negatively.

We've all got the same right to be here at Matrix and virtually everyone is welcome at the Steakhouse. The whole squabble is ridiculous. Disparaging the Steakhouse is the equivalent of disparaging any subforum here at Matrix. How about we start calling "The Thread" participants idiots?

I stopped frequenting the Steakhouse awhile back but some of the crap I see here at Matrix really makes me want to sport one of those "Proud Steakhouse Moron" sigs.
[:)] Well , I for one am certainly willing to forgo calling MCS folks "morons". But you will have to forgive me for assuming that's the way they wanted to be identified. They call themselves that , they post themselfs that , and they have the I'm a Steakhouse M----- link. Surely I can be forgiven for thinking that this was a badge of honor and preference , like an infantryman calling himself a "grunt" , a submariner being a "bubblehead" or in my community , avation folks being called "airdales". Obviously I'm mistaken and apologies. But have any MCS folks ever objected , or told us their preferences? I've only subscribed to this forum since May of this year , and I don't recall see anything like that.

And I don't honestly think the people on this forum think that they are better than MCS, just different. At MCS , the discourse gets rough , course and and pretty wild. And from everything I've read over there , that's just the way they like it. Some of us , and I definatley mean me , don't care for that rough and tumble. So what? I know Doggie has a few veiws of that (he's expressed his opion pretty clearly at MCS) and that's his right. It's his rules , and when over there , you play by them. That's more than fair. And the folks here want something a little more structured and less wild. That's also fair.

So it strikes me , that the real problem is that MCS and the Matrix forumites don't talk , except to slag each other. That won't do. And any little &*()#$$% who wants to stir up trouble here or there has only to troll in the forum of one or the other to create a thread war. The way I see it , the only people who can do anything about it , are the "dual citizens" like yourselves who talk to and understand each side. Your comments here are a great start! I encourage you to jump in when someone crosses the line. In fact , I encourage everyone to jump in , on both sides , fairly. [:(]
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How about we start calling "The Thread" participants idiots?
I do all the time[:D]
[:D]Yeah , but that doesn't count. EVERYONE calls you an idiot. Idiot! [:D]
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problem is you have to identify those wanting to start a war of words from those who are ignorant (Chinese Lancasters) from those who honestly believe something and their use of English (being their 2nd/3rd language) makes them appear rude/ignorant.

I would also support the more frequent use of the sarcasm smiley   [:'(]  Just isnt big enough


[:)] We need to have Swift find us one .He's definately the smiley king! [:D]
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[:)] Well , I for one am certainly willing to forgo calling MCS folks "morons". But you will have to forgive me for assuming that's the way they wanted to be identified. They call themselves that , they post themselfs that , and they have the I'm a Steakhouse M----- link. Surely I can be forgiven for thinking that this was a badge of honor and preference , like an infantryman calling himself a "grunt" , a submariner being a "bubblehead" or in my community , avation folks being called "airdales". Obviously I'm mistaken and apologies. But have any MCS folks ever objected , or told us their preferences? I've only subscribed to this forum since May of this year , and I don't recall see anything like that.

And I don't honestly think the people on this forum think that they are better than MCS, just different. At MCS , the discourse gets rough , course and and pretty wild. And from everything I've read over there , that's just the way they like it. Some of us , and I definatley mean me , don't care for that rough and tumble. So what? I know Doggie has a few veiws of that (he's expressed his opion pretty clearly at MCS) and that's his right. It's his rules , and when over there , you play by them. That's more than fair. And the folks here want something a little more structured and less wild. That's also fair.

So it strikes me , that the real problem is that MCS and the Matrix forumites don't talk , except to slag each other. That won't do. And any little &*()#$$% who wants to stir up trouble here or there has only to troll in the forum of one or the other to create a thread war. The way I see it , the only people who can do anything about it , are the "dual citizens" like yourselves who talk to and understand each side. Your comments here are a great start! I encourage you to jump in when someone crosses the line. In fact , I encourage everyone to jump in , on both sides , fairly. [:(]


If the search function works you'll be able to find the first instance of "Steakhouse Moron" and see that it wasn't a term of endearment. The gist of it was that ALL the folks there deseved the title and that they didn't belong here at Matrix. It has since been "taken back" by some of the folks there.

As for my being a dual citizen, technically I no longer am. However, when the Steakhouse opened, virtually all its members came from the Matrix forums. I'd imagine that it's still around 90% dual citizens.

There's plenty of disagreement at The Steakhouse but one surefire way to unite them is when they feel that they are ALL under attack from another board.
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Hort's original post and his stirling work with the pineapple mouth in the original thread seem to have worked very well at defusing the original animosity. AND he has Natalie on his side...

He's had me giggling for days!
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How about we start calling "The Thread" participants idiots?
I do all the time[:D]

I knew I should have used a more absurd example.

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[:)] Well , I for one am certainly willing to forgo calling MCS folks "morons". But you will have to forgive me for assuming that's the way they wanted to be identified. They call themselves that , they post themselfs that , and they have the I'm a Steakhouse M----- link. Surely I can be forgiven for thinking that this was a badge of honor and preference , like an infantryman calling himself a "grunt" , a submariner being a "bubblehead" or in my community , avation folks being called "airdales". Obviously I'm mistaken and apologies. But have any MCS folks ever objected , or told us their preferences? I've only subscribed to this forum since May of this year , and I don't recall see anything like that.

And I don't honestly think the people on this forum think that they are better than MCS, just different. At MCS , the discourse gets rough , course and and pretty wild. And from everything I've read over there , that's just the way they like it. Some of us , and I definatley mean me , don't care for that rough and tumble. So what? I know Doggie has a few veiws of that (he's expressed his opion pretty clearly at MCS) and that's his right. It's his rules , and when over there , you play by them. That's more than fair. And the folks here want something a little more structured and less wild. That's also fair.

So it strikes me , that the real problem is that MCS and the Matrix forumites don't talk , except to slag each other. That won't do. And any little &*()#$$% who wants to stir up trouble here or there has only to troll in the forum of one or the other to create a thread war. The way I see it , the only people who can do anything about it , are the "dual citizens" like yourselves who talk to and understand each side. Your comments here are a great start! I encourage you to jump in when someone crosses the line. In fact , I encourage everyone to jump in , on both sides , fairly. [:(]


If the search function works you'll be able to find the first instance of "Steakhouse Moron" and see that it wasn't a term of endearment. The gist of it was that ALL the folks there deseved the title and that they didn't belong here at Matrix. It has since been "taken back" by some of the folks there.

As for my being a dual citizen, technically I no longer am. However, when the Steakhouse opened, virtually all its members came from the Matrix forums. I'd imagine that it's still around 90% dual citizens.

There's plenty of disagreement at The Steakhouse but one surefire way to unite them is when they feel that they are ALL under attack from another board.
[:D] errr...that sounds like you are suggesting we gang up on some other "unsuspecting but desrving board". Any suggestions? There's a group of needlepointers that my wife belongs to that have always annoyed me.....[:D]
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Hort's original post and his stirling work with the pineapple mouth in the original thread seem to have worked very well at defusing the original animosity. AND he has Natalie on his side...

He's had me giggling for days!


[:D] You are absolutely right! Humor is always a good "defuser". Do you think Hort has any other pictures of her? [:D]
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How about we start calling "The Thread" participants idiots?
I do all the time[:D]

I knew I should have used a more absurd example.

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Now for something really offensive. I take offense with a certain wood troll in this community and this is what i think off his idol. You know who you are. Picture is meant as an insult to his wood based idol worship.[:'(]

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problem is you have to identify those wanting to start a war of words from those who are ignorant (Chinese Lancasters) from those who honestly believe something and their use of English (being their 2nd/3rd language) makes them appear rude/ignorant.

I would also support the more frequent use of the sarcasm smiley [:'(] Just isnt big enough


[:)] We need to have Swift find us one .He's definately the smiley king! [:D]


It seems everyone is looking for a good "sarcasm smiley" - various ones used don't really convey sarcasm very well. i've always thought the tongue-sticking out [:'(] denoted mild teasing.

Some forums use the "eye-rolling" smiley, some use an "eye-rolling" smiley with a stupid smile. No one is very happy with these, it seems... i've found this one that seems to convey the message pretty well, though:



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