Forlorn Hopes: The Japanese Respond
Moderators: wdolson, Don Bowen, mogami
July 1, 1942 Victory Points and Industrial Status
 [font="times new roman"]July 1, 1942 [/font]
[font="times new roman"]Victory Points and Economic Summary[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Victory Points:[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Score[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Japan   22,672[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Allies    6,167[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Ships Sunk[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Japan   175—1,263 VP[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Major Japanese Vessels Sunk---CAs Kinugasa and Kako, 4 CL, 13 DD (only 4 Modern DD lost), and 13 SS (9 I-Boats and 4 Ro-)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Allies    198---3,031 VP[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Major Allied Vessels Sunk---CVs Enterprise and Lexington, BBs Colorado, West Virginia, and Idaho, 6 CA, 2 CL, 25 DD, and 2 SS.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Industrial Report[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Supply              2,080,792[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fuel                  2,503,666[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Manpower       833 (356,056)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Heavy Industry 17.594 (34,168)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Resources        17,594 (1,270,960)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oil                    2012 (970,815)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Shipyards[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Naval               1,311 (12)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Merchant          1,012 (1)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Repair              1,288[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Specific Ships:[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Musashi is 321 Days from completion.  I’ve accelerated CVs Taiho, Unryu, Amagi, and Katsuragi, [/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Weapons[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Armament        549 (52,639)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Vehicles           111 (5,943)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Aircraft[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Engines 1,925[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Assembly         856+350-Rd[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Engine Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mitsubishi         885/Month—Need 600—1,936 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nakajima         900(14)—Need 690---202 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kawasaki         120---Need 0---841 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Aichi                20---Need 0---134 in Pool[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Plane Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fighters            Planes/Month (in Pool)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M2  104 (521)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3  84 (43)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar   156 (214)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3a 14-R[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tojo     38-R[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tony    34-R[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jack     29-R[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Bombers[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Betty    92 (116)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally     62 (144)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Helen   61 (40)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Lily       78 (54)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Val       57 (309)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kate     40 (180)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Recon/Float[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Emily    20 (29)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Alf        5 (50)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Rufe     14 (79)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Glen     4 (43)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Dinah   31 (178)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Irving    8 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jake     8 (122)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Will be shutting off most of the Float Panes soon and will turn them ‘on’ again when I need them.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Transports[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tina      10 (25)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally     5 (27)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Topsy   10 (41)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mavis-L           5 (23)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tabby 10 (64)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Am shutting down Tabby production.[/font]
			
			
									
						
							[font="times new roman"]Victory Points and Economic Summary[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Victory Points:[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Score[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Japan   22,672[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Allies    6,167[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Ships Sunk[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Japan   175—1,263 VP[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Major Japanese Vessels Sunk---CAs Kinugasa and Kako, 4 CL, 13 DD (only 4 Modern DD lost), and 13 SS (9 I-Boats and 4 Ro-)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Allies    198---3,031 VP[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Major Allied Vessels Sunk---CVs Enterprise and Lexington, BBs Colorado, West Virginia, and Idaho, 6 CA, 2 CL, 25 DD, and 2 SS.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Industrial Report[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Supply              2,080,792[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fuel                  2,503,666[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Manpower       833 (356,056)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Heavy Industry 17.594 (34,168)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Resources        17,594 (1,270,960)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oil                    2012 (970,815)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Shipyards[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Naval               1,311 (12)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Merchant          1,012 (1)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Repair              1,288[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Specific Ships:[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Musashi is 321 Days from completion.  I’ve accelerated CVs Taiho, Unryu, Amagi, and Katsuragi, [/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Weapons[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Armament        549 (52,639)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Vehicles           111 (5,943)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Aircraft[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Engines 1,925[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Assembly         856+350-Rd[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Engine Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mitsubishi         885/Month—Need 600—1,936 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Nakajima         900(14)—Need 690---202 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kawasaki         120---Need 0---841 in Pool[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Aichi                20---Need 0---134 in Pool[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Plane Production[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Fighters            Planes/Month (in Pool)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M2  104 (521)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3  84 (43)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Oscar   156 (214)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]A6M3a 14-R[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tojo     38-R[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tony    34-R[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jack     29-R[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Bombers[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Betty    92 (116)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally     62 (144)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Helen   61 (40)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Lily       78 (54)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Val       57 (309)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Kate     40 (180)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Recon/Float[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Emily    20 (29)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Alf        5 (50)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Rufe     14 (79)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Glen     4 (43)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Dinah   31 (178)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Irving    8 (0)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Jake     8 (122)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Will be shutting off most of the Float Panes soon and will turn them ‘on’ again when I need them.[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Transports[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tina      10 (25)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Sally     5 (27)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Topsy   10 (41)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Mavis-L           5 (23)[/font]
[font="times new roman"]Tabby 10 (64)[/font]
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[font="times new roman"]Am shutting down Tabby production.[/font]

Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: July 1, 1942 Victory Points and Industrial Status
 Hey John,
 
Not saying one way or the other on "uber CAP", except that escorts tend to get shredded, no matter what side you're on. CAP, even with sub-standard fighters and average pilots, if on point defense (range 1 ~70% CAP), will do "reasobably well" against a like number of escorts regardless of experience of the escorts. In June, Zero bonus has expired and he's defending with all modern fighters and his exp is probably about 65 for army and 80 for navy (so they don't utterly suck). Given the chance I throw crap planes and pilots on escort, since they're fighting at a disadvantage anyway and are mostly just fodder. As Japan, you don't really have as much choice in the matter, but maybe if you've got a CVE with some less experience sqdns, or a CV with a less exp squadron, set you good sqdns to hight CAP percent, and your suck squadrons to 0% CAP all escort. Other point being, your air groups were proably around 20 fatigue after the first day's sorties, and fatigue can push an even battle in favor of the "not as fatigued".
 
The other consolation is, when you -really- consider the situation, how often do you -really- have a CV engagmeent where you -need- those pilots to press thru. Odds are, you won't have another CV battle for months, which will give you time to repair your air-groups.
 
IMO, as Japan it's about "what can I trade my CVs for". You -are- going to lose your CVs and their air-groups. Whether it's to SBDs and wilcats in 42, or to Hellcats in 43, or to B-29s in port in 44; your CVs -will- get nailed. So you want to "trade" them for the best you can. And you just added 2x USN CVs to the trophy case for pilots. Did it hurt your CAGs? Sure. But pilots you can replace (albeit slowly), your CVs, you cannot.
 
If it's June and you just pounded him, I'd expect another potential engagement in about November. Your opponent will be more conservative next time, and will pull the flak upgrades before thinking of sortying. He'll also pull in the RN CVs (wherever they are), to try to even the table a little.
 
Plan for -that- battle. Do everyting you can to get your airgroups ready by Nov/Dec, against whatever USN CVs and RN CVs he has left. That battle will be critical. If you win it outright, you buy yourself a year while his CVs respawn in late 44 (only a year, because even before teh CVs respawn, his LBA will be powerful enought to kick your a_s.) If it's a draw, we'll, you've made an even exchange and you hunker down to make him pay for every advance. And well, you don't want to lose *grin*.
 
But ini Spring 43 he gets another flak upgrade (he may wait for this). And fall 43 he's drawing Hellcats (which will shred your planes regardless of how good your pilots are). So you -want- to prepare for another fight sometime in Nov-Jan.
 
-F-
			
			
									
						
							Not saying one way or the other on "uber CAP", except that escorts tend to get shredded, no matter what side you're on. CAP, even with sub-standard fighters and average pilots, if on point defense (range 1 ~70% CAP), will do "reasobably well" against a like number of escorts regardless of experience of the escorts. In June, Zero bonus has expired and he's defending with all modern fighters and his exp is probably about 65 for army and 80 for navy (so they don't utterly suck). Given the chance I throw crap planes and pilots on escort, since they're fighting at a disadvantage anyway and are mostly just fodder. As Japan, you don't really have as much choice in the matter, but maybe if you've got a CVE with some less experience sqdns, or a CV with a less exp squadron, set you good sqdns to hight CAP percent, and your suck squadrons to 0% CAP all escort. Other point being, your air groups were proably around 20 fatigue after the first day's sorties, and fatigue can push an even battle in favor of the "not as fatigued".
The other consolation is, when you -really- consider the situation, how often do you -really- have a CV engagmeent where you -need- those pilots to press thru. Odds are, you won't have another CV battle for months, which will give you time to repair your air-groups.
IMO, as Japan it's about "what can I trade my CVs for". You -are- going to lose your CVs and their air-groups. Whether it's to SBDs and wilcats in 42, or to Hellcats in 43, or to B-29s in port in 44; your CVs -will- get nailed. So you want to "trade" them for the best you can. And you just added 2x USN CVs to the trophy case for pilots. Did it hurt your CAGs? Sure. But pilots you can replace (albeit slowly), your CVs, you cannot.
If it's June and you just pounded him, I'd expect another potential engagement in about November. Your opponent will be more conservative next time, and will pull the flak upgrades before thinking of sortying. He'll also pull in the RN CVs (wherever they are), to try to even the table a little.
Plan for -that- battle. Do everyting you can to get your airgroups ready by Nov/Dec, against whatever USN CVs and RN CVs he has left. That battle will be critical. If you win it outright, you buy yourself a year while his CVs respawn in late 44 (only a year, because even before teh CVs respawn, his LBA will be powerful enought to kick your a_s.) If it's a draw, we'll, you've made an even exchange and you hunker down to make him pay for every advance. And well, you don't want to lose *grin*.
But ini Spring 43 he gets another flak upgrade (he may wait for this). And fall 43 he's drawing Hellcats (which will shred your planes regardless of how good your pilots are). So you -want- to prepare for another fight sometime in Nov-Jan.
-F-
"It is obvious that you have greatly over-estimated my regard for your opinion." - Me

			
						RE: July 1, 1942 Victory Points and Industrial Status
 Feinder:
 
I agree with your thinking a bunch.  ANY chance to inflict maximum harm for low cost must be taken advantage of and then settle for one heck of a fight for when it is time to LOSE the Japanese Flattops! 
 
This is why I have run this game somewhat differently then I normally do.  I have chosen to keep the starting KB intact and add a CVL to each of the three divisions.  Operating together, the KB now contains about 500 aircraft split between three mutually supporting TF.  I also keep a BB TF with this group as a possible diversion for inbound strikes.  It is fairly close to what the Americans had in late-1943 and is more then a match for the current amount of 3-4 American CVs.
 
This total doesn't include the two smaller Carrier TF I have out there right now.  Junyo/Hiyo (102 planes) are their own TF as well as 2 CVL with 4 CVE (166 PLANES) that I have roaming around raiding.  I might bunch these 8 CV together and let them cause some havoc.  With 268 planes, even that could trade some serious blows with the Americans and--probably--beat a Brit CV Force. 
 
Even with the aerial losses, for only the sinking of a useless old BB and decent damage to a CV, I sustained recently, I can rebuild my aerial fighting edge and be ready for a serious head-to-head fight by the end of the year.
 
Dan has lost Enterprise and Lexington with a little damage to Hornet.  He tends to be pretty cautious.  I bet he won't try to take the offensive in the Pacific for at least six months.  That is the time I need to tackle Australia while waiting for his counterattack to develop.
 
We shall see what happens.
 
			
			
									
						
							 
I agree with your thinking a bunch.  ANY chance to inflict maximum harm for low cost must be taken advantage of and then settle for one heck of a fight for when it is time to LOSE the Japanese Flattops! 
 
This is why I have run this game somewhat differently then I normally do.  I have chosen to keep the starting KB intact and add a CVL to each of the three divisions.  Operating together, the KB now contains about 500 aircraft split between three mutually supporting TF.  I also keep a BB TF with this group as a possible diversion for inbound strikes.  It is fairly close to what the Americans had in late-1943 and is more then a match for the current amount of 3-4 American CVs.
 
This total doesn't include the two smaller Carrier TF I have out there right now.  Junyo/Hiyo (102 planes) are their own TF as well as 2 CVL with 4 CVE (166 PLANES) that I have roaming around raiding.  I might bunch these 8 CV together and let them cause some havoc.  With 268 planes, even that could trade some serious blows with the Americans and--probably--beat a Brit CV Force. 
 
Even with the aerial losses, for only the sinking of a useless old BB and decent damage to a CV, I sustained recently, I can rebuild my aerial fighting edge and be ready for a serious head-to-head fight by the end of the year.
 
Dan has lost Enterprise and Lexington with a little damage to Hornet.  He tends to be pretty cautious.  I bet he won't try to take the offensive in the Pacific for at least six months.  That is the time I need to tackle Australia while waiting for his counterattack to develop.
 
We shall see what happens.
 

Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
July 1-4, 1942
 Combat Report
July 1-4, 1942
 
A relatively quiet period settles into the Pacific as numerous convoys ply the north, central, and south Pacific.
 
North Pacific
With the departure of all my carriers, Dutch Harbor still holds a massive amount of Japanese firepower.  Five BB reside here aand are doing their best to convince Dan that I am moving against Kodiak and Anchorage.  Kodiak is hit by these BB on the 1st and another bombardment is scheduled to take place on the 6th.  Thsi will be a two-fold attack of a CA-CL-DD TF and then the BB TF.
 
Dan has a couple of small ASW TF operating between Kodiak and Anchorage against my SS.  I have 11 SS working this area and he manages to hit Ro-62 badly on the 3rd and 4th.  It is headed for DH.  I have mined all the ports in this area with the four Japanese ML SS (I-121-124).
 
Keep hoping my Bettys will fly and hit one of these TF sometime from Cold Harbor (AF 4).
 
Spot a ML heading for Anchorage and an I-Boat misses a shot at her on the 4th.
 
Central Pacific
No major events.  My garrision troops have pretty much made it to all their destinations from Pago-Pago.  I have a few Air BF moving into place so I can use my AF without any issues.
 
My remaining operational KB CVs are passing Midway on the 4th heading for Suva and commerce hunting.  Akagi, Kaga, and Hiryu have little to no system damage and their refits aren't scheduled for another 2-3 months.  Hopefully, they can hit some innocent merchant ships for training purposes...
 
South Pacific
My Junyo--Hiyo TF is spotted passing the eastern edge of New Zealand on the 2nd and docks at Noumea on the 4th.  This should keep Dan nervous as to my intentions.
 
Australia
I am driving on Tennant Creek and am only 60 miles away on the 4th.  Put simply, Dan MUST fight here or he will be back to Alice Springs.  I have 150 fighters and 225 bombers savaging his troops and Tennant Creek's AF.
 
Exmouth Bay--I tip my hand by landing at Exmouth on the 4th.  I will take it on the 5th and move Emilys there for scouting purposes.
 
Perth--Mandrake may enjoy this moment.  I WILL take this base!  I've decided on a new plan brought about by the map for this Mod.  I intend to land an Infantry Division, Inf Brigade, 2 Artillery Regiments, 2 Engineering Regiments, and a BF if it is not occupied.  Once I have it, both of my Paratroop Regiments will capture the town about 8 hexes SE of Perth.  Perth will be isolated and I will then reduce it and capture the town.
 
IF ALL GOES WELL--these troops will then drive down for a juncture with my army approaching Tennant Creek by way of Alice Springs. 
 
My Mini-KB sinks 2 AK over these days as it slowly moves toward Perth to cover the Exmouth Landing.
 
Burma
No big action.  I land an Infantry Brigade and two Artillery Regiments at Rangoon without issue.
 
Home Islands
My Carriers disband into their ports for refit, repairs, and upgrades.  Soryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku, and 2 CVL begin their work and I replace their aerial losses at the same time.
 
 
That is news on my front...
			
			
									
						
							July 1-4, 1942
 
A relatively quiet period settles into the Pacific as numerous convoys ply the north, central, and south Pacific.
 
North Pacific
With the departure of all my carriers, Dutch Harbor still holds a massive amount of Japanese firepower.  Five BB reside here aand are doing their best to convince Dan that I am moving against Kodiak and Anchorage.  Kodiak is hit by these BB on the 1st and another bombardment is scheduled to take place on the 6th.  Thsi will be a two-fold attack of a CA-CL-DD TF and then the BB TF.
 
Dan has a couple of small ASW TF operating between Kodiak and Anchorage against my SS.  I have 11 SS working this area and he manages to hit Ro-62 badly on the 3rd and 4th.  It is headed for DH.  I have mined all the ports in this area with the four Japanese ML SS (I-121-124).
 
Keep hoping my Bettys will fly and hit one of these TF sometime from Cold Harbor (AF 4).
 
Spot a ML heading for Anchorage and an I-Boat misses a shot at her on the 4th.
 
Central Pacific
No major events.  My garrision troops have pretty much made it to all their destinations from Pago-Pago.  I have a few Air BF moving into place so I can use my AF without any issues.
 
My remaining operational KB CVs are passing Midway on the 4th heading for Suva and commerce hunting.  Akagi, Kaga, and Hiryu have little to no system damage and their refits aren't scheduled for another 2-3 months.  Hopefully, they can hit some innocent merchant ships for training purposes...
 
South Pacific
My Junyo--Hiyo TF is spotted passing the eastern edge of New Zealand on the 2nd and docks at Noumea on the 4th.  This should keep Dan nervous as to my intentions.
 
Australia
I am driving on Tennant Creek and am only 60 miles away on the 4th.  Put simply, Dan MUST fight here or he will be back to Alice Springs.  I have 150 fighters and 225 bombers savaging his troops and Tennant Creek's AF.
 
Exmouth Bay--I tip my hand by landing at Exmouth on the 4th.  I will take it on the 5th and move Emilys there for scouting purposes.
 
Perth--Mandrake may enjoy this moment.  I WILL take this base!  I've decided on a new plan brought about by the map for this Mod.  I intend to land an Infantry Division, Inf Brigade, 2 Artillery Regiments, 2 Engineering Regiments, and a BF if it is not occupied.  Once I have it, both of my Paratroop Regiments will capture the town about 8 hexes SE of Perth.  Perth will be isolated and I will then reduce it and capture the town.
 
IF ALL GOES WELL--these troops will then drive down for a juncture with my army approaching Tennant Creek by way of Alice Springs. 
 
My Mini-KB sinks 2 AK over these days as it slowly moves toward Perth to cover the Exmouth Landing.
 
Burma
No big action.  I land an Infantry Brigade and two Artillery Regiments at Rangoon without issue.
 
Home Islands
My Carriers disband into their ports for refit, repairs, and upgrades.  Soryu, Shokaku, Zuikaku, and 2 CVL begin their work and I replace their aerial losses at the same time.
 
 
That is news on my front...

Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
RE: July 1-4, 1942
 I was going through my notes and forgot to mention major troops deployments during this time.  I have pulled and paid the points for a good-sized group of units from Manchuria/Korea to embark from Shanghai on July 4th.  These are the specifics:
 
To Broome:
23rd Engineering Regiment
Tone Heavy Gun Regiment
 
To New Caledonia:
1st Mixed Brigade
5th Engineer Regiment
8th Heavy Gun Regiment
 
The 20th Infantry Division is on its way to Shanghai and will be loaded for Australia as well.
 
From the Manila Forces I dispatch the following:
 
To Kwajalein:
35th Brigade
 
To Rangoon:
4th Mixed Brigade
 
			
			
									
						
							To Broome:
23rd Engineering Regiment
Tone Heavy Gun Regiment
To New Caledonia:
1st Mixed Brigade
5th Engineer Regiment
8th Heavy Gun Regiment
The 20th Infantry Division is on its way to Shanghai and will be loaded for Australia as well.
From the Manila Forces I dispatch the following:
To Kwajalein:
35th Brigade
To Rangoon:
4th Mixed Brigade

Member: Treaty, Reluctant Admiral and Between the Storms Mod Team.
July 5-13, 1942
 Combat Report
July 5-13, 1942
  
Things have been VERY quiet for this week's time. I continue to move troops around with many convoys of soldiers, planes, oil, resources, supplies, and fuel moving to all points of the compass.
 
Many people pooh-pooh Japanese players who REALLY push the perimeter but I like it and the more I can force my opponents to START the counter-offensive a long way AWAY from Japan the better. The only real problem with this strategy is keeping the perimiter supplied adequately. I always feel that my 'normal' perimeter (the Aleutians--Midway--SE Islands--New Caledonia) is highly vulnerable only directly after I have taken it. The period of time that this campaign has entered is THAT time! I have redistributed my troops and am digging in but face a chronic shortage of fuel and supplies. This should be alleviated by the end of July. Until then, my infrastructure is a hollow shell with very little flexiblity or strength...
 
I have a number of ships who entered drydock for upgrade and basic repairs and they should be ready soon to head back out onto the open sea. Soryu, Shokaku, and Zuikaku have already completed their upgrades and are seeing the last System Damage repaired. They will join 2 BC, 3 CA, 3 CL, 15 DD in Toyko Bay soon to return to the South Pacific. Once they reach Noumea, then Hiryu, Akagi, and Kaga will switch and do their upgrades. I am able to do this pretty quickly due to the massive Repair Yard expansion that I always do in this game...
 
Regional Reports
 
North Pacific
My principle bases of Cold Harbor, Dutch Harbor, and Umnak all look good. Each base has at least 20,000 supply and AFs are at 4, 1, and 5 respectively. There are currently 4 BB, 2 CA, 3 CL, and 25 DD operating up here as well as about 14 SS. The goal has been to distract Dan into thinking of a possible invasion of Anchorage. I think I have done that and will now start pulling ships and extra aircraft southward to the true theatres of action.
 
During this week of time my SS hit two AK and miss a DD as well as an MLE. Three SS are damaged and have to return to Northern Japan (I use Sendai as my main SS repair base). Mines are everywhere and I am laying them as fast as possible. In seeing that MLE of Dan's, I KNOW he is thinking defense!
 
My Bettys do manage on the 13th to fly and sink 3 MSW at Kodiak. Nice to sink a few of them...
 
Central Pacific
Midway I land two Brigades there during this week and lift off a pair of smaller Naval Guard units to be used for garrision duty near Kwajalein. Midway is tough. I've got about 300 Assault Points and the ability to stage 150 planes from there. Will begin mining it within a couple weeks or so.
 
No other real devlopments in this region.
 
SE Pacific
Major supply issues at Baker, Canton, Bora-Bora, and Papeate. Supply convoys headed to each of these locations. I REALLY like having Bora-Bora and Papeate because they are at AF 4 and 5 respecively and can mutually support each other as bases. They will be VERY hard to retake! I expect this to be a prime location for the Allied Counterattack...
 
South Pacific
Suva This is my main base for the region. Port is at 5 (nearly 6) and the AF is also at 5. I have several convoys of fuel about to arrive. I will base most of the Combined Fleet here for the foreseeable future.
 
Noumea Building this up as well. It is the obvious choice for Japanese HQ but I will hold off on that. This place will carry a substantial garrision by the end of July.
 
New Zealand I think Dan THINKS I want this place! I intend to make him continue thinking that once the Hiryu, Akagi, and Kaga arrive at Noumea within a few days. They will go commerce hunting and be VERY visible...
 
Australia
Tennant Creek My troops have begun to arrive at Tennant Creek. It appears that Dan will fight here! YEA!!! I have 125 Fighters and 200 bombers hitting this place every day from Katherine and Daly Waters.
 
Exmouth Bay I capture this base on the 5th and it is serving as a Recon base for the supply lanes and checking of bases around Perth.
 
Perth I have detailed a force of 2 Infantry Divisions, 1 Inf Brigade, 2 Base Forces, 1 Engineering Reg, 2 Art Regiments, and both of my Paratroop Regiments for operations around this city. I will land and capture Geraldon and then invest Perth if he lets me...
 
My Paras may get an important mission once my Emily Recon has been done!
 
DEI
Nothing exciting. Am finishing off the Central Philippines and will use one of those bases for pilot training. I'll purposely leave a garrision there for constant attack for the rest of the war...
 
Burma
Magwe Dan and I have been exchanging some aerial blows here but I am have been doing pretty well. Have pulled in my Oscar Sentais in anticipation of TONYS and TOJOS withina few weeks! [8D] I have 3 Sentai of Oscars at Rangoon whose experience is in their 80s and they will get the first of the new aircraft.
 
China
Who cares???
 
That is the state of things and I just notice that Dan's newest turn has arrived! Will update again in a few days.
 
			
			
									
						
							July 5-13, 1942
Things have been VERY quiet for this week's time. I continue to move troops around with many convoys of soldiers, planes, oil, resources, supplies, and fuel moving to all points of the compass.
Many people pooh-pooh Japanese players who REALLY push the perimeter but I like it and the more I can force my opponents to START the counter-offensive a long way AWAY from Japan the better. The only real problem with this strategy is keeping the perimiter supplied adequately. I always feel that my 'normal' perimeter (the Aleutians--Midway--SE Islands--New Caledonia) is highly vulnerable only directly after I have taken it. The period of time that this campaign has entered is THAT time! I have redistributed my troops and am digging in but face a chronic shortage of fuel and supplies. This should be alleviated by the end of July. Until then, my infrastructure is a hollow shell with very little flexiblity or strength...
I have a number of ships who entered drydock for upgrade and basic repairs and they should be ready soon to head back out onto the open sea. Soryu, Shokaku, and Zuikaku have already completed their upgrades and are seeing the last System Damage repaired. They will join 2 BC, 3 CA, 3 CL, 15 DD in Toyko Bay soon to return to the South Pacific. Once they reach Noumea, then Hiryu, Akagi, and Kaga will switch and do their upgrades. I am able to do this pretty quickly due to the massive Repair Yard expansion that I always do in this game...
Regional Reports
North Pacific
My principle bases of Cold Harbor, Dutch Harbor, and Umnak all look good. Each base has at least 20,000 supply and AFs are at 4, 1, and 5 respectively. There are currently 4 BB, 2 CA, 3 CL, and 25 DD operating up here as well as about 14 SS. The goal has been to distract Dan into thinking of a possible invasion of Anchorage. I think I have done that and will now start pulling ships and extra aircraft southward to the true theatres of action.
During this week of time my SS hit two AK and miss a DD as well as an MLE. Three SS are damaged and have to return to Northern Japan (I use Sendai as my main SS repair base). Mines are everywhere and I am laying them as fast as possible. In seeing that MLE of Dan's, I KNOW he is thinking defense!
My Bettys do manage on the 13th to fly and sink 3 MSW at Kodiak. Nice to sink a few of them...
Central Pacific
Midway I land two Brigades there during this week and lift off a pair of smaller Naval Guard units to be used for garrision duty near Kwajalein. Midway is tough. I've got about 300 Assault Points and the ability to stage 150 planes from there. Will begin mining it within a couple weeks or so.
No other real devlopments in this region.
SE Pacific
Major supply issues at Baker, Canton, Bora-Bora, and Papeate. Supply convoys headed to each of these locations. I REALLY like having Bora-Bora and Papeate because they are at AF 4 and 5 respecively and can mutually support each other as bases. They will be VERY hard to retake! I expect this to be a prime location for the Allied Counterattack...
South Pacific
Suva This is my main base for the region. Port is at 5 (nearly 6) and the AF is also at 5. I have several convoys of fuel about to arrive. I will base most of the Combined Fleet here for the foreseeable future.
Noumea Building this up as well. It is the obvious choice for Japanese HQ but I will hold off on that. This place will carry a substantial garrision by the end of July.
New Zealand I think Dan THINKS I want this place! I intend to make him continue thinking that once the Hiryu, Akagi, and Kaga arrive at Noumea within a few days. They will go commerce hunting and be VERY visible...
Australia
Tennant Creek My troops have begun to arrive at Tennant Creek. It appears that Dan will fight here! YEA!!! I have 125 Fighters and 200 bombers hitting this place every day from Katherine and Daly Waters.
Exmouth Bay I capture this base on the 5th and it is serving as a Recon base for the supply lanes and checking of bases around Perth.
Perth I have detailed a force of 2 Infantry Divisions, 1 Inf Brigade, 2 Base Forces, 1 Engineering Reg, 2 Art Regiments, and both of my Paratroop Regiments for operations around this city. I will land and capture Geraldon and then invest Perth if he lets me...
My Paras may get an important mission once my Emily Recon has been done!
DEI
Nothing exciting. Am finishing off the Central Philippines and will use one of those bases for pilot training. I'll purposely leave a garrision there for constant attack for the rest of the war...
Burma
Magwe Dan and I have been exchanging some aerial blows here but I am have been doing pretty well. Have pulled in my Oscar Sentais in anticipation of TONYS and TOJOS withina few weeks! [8D] I have 3 Sentai of Oscars at Rangoon whose experience is in their 80s and they will get the first of the new aircraft.
China
Who cares???
That is the state of things and I just notice that Dan's newest turn has arrived! Will update again in a few days.

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Strategic Imput?
 I have done my recon of the Aussie bases in western Aussieland and find NOTHING at Kalgoorie, Albany, and Geraldon.  Perth has 4 units spotted within it.
 
This is the OOB of available forces to take this area:
 
At Broome and Loaded into AP with 19,000 Supply:
2nd Infantry Division
2nd/6th/14th Tank Regiments
20th Engineer Regiment
2 Construction Battlions
 
At Broome:
1st/2nd Parachute Regiments
4th Mixed Regiment
16th Army HQ
Aviation Regiment
Long Range Transports:  72 Tina and 24 Mavis
 
En Route passing Timor:
23rd Engineer Regiment
Tone Heavy Gun Regiment
 
En Route passing Philippines:
20th Infantry Division
 
Operational Vision
I do not want to simply grab these bases!  I want to force the surrender of those troops at Perth.  My initial thought is:
 
1.  To take the loaded TF and send it south so that it LOOKS like it is going for Perth.  PASS PERTH and take Albany (AF 1 but Pt 3).
 
2.  Just prior to landing at Albany use my Paras to capture that Port and Geraldon.  No contested landing for my convoy to deal with.
 
3.  A few days later, use ALL of my Paras and the 4th Mixed Regiment to capture Kalgoorie and shut the door on Perth. 
 
4.  Reduce Perth at my leisure...
 
Naval Resources:
My Mini-KB of 2 CVL and 4 CVE with over 175 planes will provide cover and block reinforcements and/or evac of Perth troops.
 
Comments and/or thoughts?  Need to come up with an Operational Plan Code Word Title! 
			
			
									
						
							 
This is the OOB of available forces to take this area:
 
At Broome and Loaded into AP with 19,000 Supply:
2nd Infantry Division
2nd/6th/14th Tank Regiments
20th Engineer Regiment
2 Construction Battlions
 
At Broome:
1st/2nd Parachute Regiments
4th Mixed Regiment
16th Army HQ
Aviation Regiment
Long Range Transports:  72 Tina and 24 Mavis
 
En Route passing Timor:
23rd Engineer Regiment
Tone Heavy Gun Regiment
 
En Route passing Philippines:
20th Infantry Division
 
Operational Vision
I do not want to simply grab these bases!  I want to force the surrender of those troops at Perth.  My initial thought is:
 
1.  To take the loaded TF and send it south so that it LOOKS like it is going for Perth.  PASS PERTH and take Albany (AF 1 but Pt 3).
 
2.  Just prior to landing at Albany use my Paras to capture that Port and Geraldon.  No contested landing for my convoy to deal with.
 
3.  A few days later, use ALL of my Paras and the 4th Mixed Regiment to capture Kalgoorie and shut the door on Perth. 
 
4.  Reduce Perth at my leisure...
 
Naval Resources:
My Mini-KB of 2 CVL and 4 CVE with over 175 planes will provide cover and block reinforcements and/or evac of Perth troops.
 
Comments and/or thoughts?  Need to come up with an Operational Plan Code Word Title! 

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First Screen Shot!
 Since there are different maps for WitP now, I have decided to try my FIRST EVER screen shot into the AAR.  Perhaps it will help...
			
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2nd Try: First Screen Shot!
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RE: First Screen Shot!
 Psst, John.  Make sure you check the box to "imbed picture in post." [;)]
			
			
									
						
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RE: First Screen Shot!
 Nicely done!  With edited in ground forces as well.  [8D]
			
			
									
						
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RE: First Screen Shot!
 Were you being...sarcastic...SIR!!??
 
[:D][:D][:D]
 
Actually managed to do it.  My wife will have a heart attack!
 
			
			
									
						
							 
[:D][:D][:D]
 
Actually managed to do it.  My wife will have a heart attack!
 

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RE: First Screen Shot!
ORIGINAL: John 3rd
Were you being...sarcastic...SIR!!??
[:D][:D][:D]
Actually managed to do it. My wife will have a heart attack!
Ha, not a bit of sarcasm from me. I've posted screen shots, but have not yet attempted to edit in any information. [;)]
Anything that will impress your wife is an accomplishment to be proud of. [8D]
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RE: First Screen Shot!
 Oh, and I like your plan to cut off Perth and then reduce it.  Will keeping the Perth defenders bottled up advance your larger plans of driving on Adelaide?
			
			
									
						
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RE: First Screen Shot!
 I have a massive force about to fully invest Tennant Creek.  The moment I have Kalgoorie, it will be interesting to see what Dan does.  Having it SHOULD be a grave threat to his rear area.  We shall see...
 
THANKS for the thoughts.  My wife WAS impressed that I managed to do ANYTHING alone with the computer!
 
 
			
			
									
						
							 
THANKS for the thoughts.  My wife WAS impressed that I managed to do ANYTHING alone with the computer!
 
 

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RE: First Screen Shot!
 Doh just read this aar i now am feeling very inferior as the japs i don't even have a 3rd of the stuff he does and i am only a month behind[:(]
			
			
									
						
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RE: First Screen Shot!
 Bobo, don't sweat it.  John is a very agressive, very capable, and very experienced member of the Dark Side.  I've followed a few of his games, and he always gets the most out of his Japanese forces in '42.  [&o]
			
			
									
						
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Southern Cross
 You could call your operation, "Southern Cross," since you could draw two lines and have it come out looking vaguely like one. I do hope you have some knowledge of astronomy. [:D]
			
			
									
						
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[/center]Operation Southern Cross
 Bobo--You are dead on with your estimation of our game!  As the Allies, I have YOU and it is only April of 1942...  Who says that the Allies cannot be agressive in early-1942??!!
 
Michael--THAT is a GREAT operational title.  Operation Southern Cross it is!  I like the relevance and it should make Dan nervous that it could mean New Zealand OR Ausssieland.
 
Mike--Thanks for the help with the Screen Shots.  I will do one of the Aleutians later today.
 
			
			
									
						
							 
Michael--THAT is a GREAT operational title.  Operation Southern Cross it is!  I like the relevance and it should make Dan nervous that it could mean New Zealand OR Ausssieland.
 
Mike--Thanks for the help with the Screen Shots.  I will do one of the Aleutians later today.
 

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RE: Operation Southern Cross
 Mike--I for got to say that you could call me DARTH COCHRAN in honor of my control over the Dark Side!   [:D][:D][:D]
 
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....or should that be...DARTH COCHRANUS???
			
			
									
						
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....or should that be...DARTH COCHRANUS???

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