new game anyone

[WJPalmer1]

Thanks, David. We will definitely keep you in mind!

[denxis1]

Great summary on the game Ron thank you for all your work on putting this together it takes a lot of cooperation by all to make this work and judging by the posts here everyone has shown they are willing to work together to make this a great time and yes I can host.

Please use the gap program and save the file as "your game name_NearRunThing" and send To denxis1@gmail.com

I agree on all of Ron's post regarding game rules and and the summary so far. my votes are the same.

Yes to Economic Manipulation
Yes to PBEM passwords
Yes to waiting to commence the game until the new patch is out (estimated by Jan 5) but get everything ready, including submitting our GAP bids, now


so far I have received bids from

trent
mardonius
fatfloyd

still need to hear from

dodod
Kayuucee
exp101


Look forward to playing with you all

[dodod]

bid is sent...
 
so privateers? and we can wait til the patch.
 
can we at least set up and load set up files in the patched game?

[WJPalmer1]

For the patch to be effective, I would think he would need to import the GAP bids after the patch has been loaded.

Still need Kayuucee and Denxis1 to either send e-mail address to me for Google Group invitation or apply directly.

[dodod]

out of curiosity, are people using the new counters?  that gets rid of FOW doesn't it? you know cavalry, artillery etc?

[WJPalmer1]

I haven't loaded any of the new sets myself, but I understand there are versions out there that minimize FoW disruption. I've been a bit reluctant for fear it might somehow destabilize something or impact compatibility with others not using the same counters. But they are pretty cool [:)]

[fatfloyd]

Once all the bids are in we can at least get the txt file it creates to see who is playing which power.

I am not sure if we can do the setup pre-patch without risking issues. I am assuming all the existing games will be loading the patch and continuing so perhaps we can.

[WJPalmer1]

Check out this thread regarding compatibility of pre-patch games with the new patch. The Matrix developers seem to be saying that while existing games should be compatible with the patch, if the patch is applied to existing games, some patch features/corrections will not apply.

tm.asp?m=1658929

I know everyone's anxious to go, but I don't think it makes sense to start the game and apply the GAP before the patch has been applied. We would be straddled with something less than the full version of the game for a long, long time.

Reading the .txt files would tell us in advance what everyone's bid is, but we still need to import the GAP so that it can resolve ties, apply pre-existing DoW's, etc.

IMO we should think of it like Christmas approaching: Let the anticipation build, study up on the game and develop grand strategies in our minds for the MP's each thinks he will get -- but wait until Christmas to open our package. It'll be here before you know it [;)]

[fatfloyd]

I thought the GAP program resolved ties etc before creating the txt file, if this is not the case then I agree we should wait for the patch to come out.

[denxis1]

There are two sets of modified counters from what the forum said one that would be revealing in regards to Fog of war as the guards were distinguished and the other was modified for FOW I downloaded the modified set as from what was being said on the forum this one would resolve FOW issues.


Thanks for the reminder exp101. I have registered with the group fourm.

[Kayuucee]

I am currently at work. I will send my bids in when I get home.

Kenneth Crist
Kayuucee

[Kayuucee]

Bids sent.

Kenneth Crist

[denxis1]

Great thank you Kenneth. All bids have been received. All we need to decide now is if we wait for the patch or start without it. I am ok with whatever the group decides.
One possibility we might think about is we could start a trial run to work out the bugs with the current version and agree to restart with the same bids once the next version is available.... just a thought.

[dodod]

I say we start...we can see how it goes with the group...although strategies will have to be changed.

[fatfloyd]

If the patch is coming up this week the I think we should wait. I am keen to start but lets give the patch a chance, no point getting frustrated with the game unnecessarily. Some if the naval bugs have required all sorts of house rules which we can avoid if we wait a week.

If the bids are are in though, I would like the GAP program to do it's thing and then receive the txt file.

[Kayuucee]

I think we should wait for the patch, but can we import the bids, see who won and then start dipolmacy and then import the bids again after the patch and start the game? Or will the second import randomize things so that maybe we do not get the same positions?

Kenneth Crist

[WJPalmer1]

Still not sure what would be accomplished by trying to jump the gun before the patch.

BTW, I'll be out of town from Monday a.m. until Wednesday around noon (GMT -7).

[dodod]

we can wait, I just am not sure the patch will be in by Jan 5th...
 
also, regarding the prussian rule...I just played in a game where the prussians get their butt smashed...is there any reason not to gang up on prussia?

[Kayuucee]

I just feel that the more time to negotiate pre-game, the better.

Kenneth Crist

[denxis1]

Hello not really sure what the consensus here is but It appears that it comes down to 3 choices

#1 wait for the patch do nothing until it arrives.

#2 Run the Gap program and see what country we get which would give us time for diplomacy. Then run the same bids again once the patch is available.

#3 Start the game now and just live with the things that will not work once the new patch arrives.


I will vote for #2 I agree with Kenneth it would be nice to have some prewar negotiating time.


At this point it appears that the votes are (please correct me if I am wrong about your vote on this)


dodod #2

Mardonius ?

densix1 #2

Kayuucee #2

Trent ?

fatfloyd #2

exp101 #1