WAW v25 Freeboy (Allies) vs. Boron (Axis)

[freeboy]

my planes are in smaller groups, but probably alot higher xp as I keep shooting yours down lol
Planes inthe med bomb Romania and Rome, Athens is seized as is Copenhagen.. Hamberg shelled
troops in France bombed with little to show for it US ramping up aid to the European theater as multiple armies are produced each month

[xBoroNx]

Axis wins an air battle vs. the soviets though. 10 soviet fighters and 13 dive bombers are shot down, whereas only 4 fighters are lost. This was during Freeboys turn, so the Kharkow debacle is at least partially revenged .

German infantrycorps spot a few russian planes in voronesh. About half of them are shot down at the airfields, the rest manages to escape.

[freeboy]

Yep Russia is buggered in this one as Thousands of infantry that somehow are still being supplied crushedme.. in my forts, with better troops well dug in! lol oh well so much forthat front.. I will fight on till the last red blood is left beating.. The plan Montgomery is started and the soft underbelly and France are attacked, I skipped Vichy, anybody know if you declare war do u still get the free french troops as in past versions, this is v25 fyi
I am going to level rome and ploisti next turn and probably attack some more factories, I am sure he is raising up a trained air force.. lol

[xBoroNx]

Russia again loses lots of troops. This turn we kill material worth 55910 production points. German losses are low as usual again, 7900 production points.

In the south only small kampfgruppen are left.

[xBoroNx]

In the north the situation is slightly better for the russians, at least they have left a couple of intact corps in the leningrad area and probably something in muscowy too. In the west though currently the situation is still tense.

[SMK-at-work]

What are the light grey Russian units?

[xBoroNx]

Germany decided to stop it's factory building program last turn. 1 new factory each turn requires 60 pp = 30000 production points, though in the long run profitable we fear that we fall behind too much if we continue the factory program and can't catch up with the west anymore. German production won't raise much more. You nicely can see in the chart when Freeboy began his bombing campaign and that it is quite successful. Though not critical yet it is at least already extremely annoying. I also need to find a good countermeasure vs. his fleets. Though with bombard range of only 1 they are slightly less brutal than in e.g. europe at war they still have a couple of worthy targets like Rome which Freeboy is currently softening up.

[xBoroNx]

ORIGINAL: SMK-at-work

What are the light grey Russian units?

Siberians, aka the russian SS

[freeboy]

Allieas land in Northern Greece and neer Konigsburg cutting off the supply routes for AGN
bomb Paris Bomb Rome add dive bomebomers.. I think that JApan is getting embargo supply?? not sure ask xbx, but they did not surrender .. great.

[xBoroNx]

This turn german artillery manages to sink 1 allied battleship and 2 cruisers. Otherwise this turn there is rather little combat action and the germans suffer a few minor tactical defeats in russia because they are a bit too reckless and want to kill russia as fast as possible thus overstraining their poor troops. Baku is taken, the outskirts of Stalingrad and Muscowy reached and Leningrad cut of from the rest of the world.

Russian losses are high again, probably material worth 49730 production points, but i might be about 1000-2000 points wrong this turn since some casualities where inflicted on the west too. West lost about 24000 production points this turn, the already mentioned 2 cruisers + the battleship + a few bombarded troops. Losses suffered were worth 12650 production points.

Instead of taking meaningless screenshots because due to the winter not much ground was taken i will compare the total losses of the nations suffered so far.

Germany killed enemy forces worth 1.145.510 production points. The enemy forces killed german forces worth 611.110 production points. Roughly 50% of the german losses have been airforce losses.

[freeboy]

oops, correctd.. I as noted earlier, had to move up the timetable by six months, so instead of several devestating raids against Germany Italy and Greace, several smallerr attacks are being held to draw off German forces.. and tothreaten vital rail links.. odd note, I was German and got five enemy partisons forst allied turn, in several I as allies have one in Europe lol

[xBoroNx]

Japan is in miserably state, but the japan surrender bug at least allows that japan can continue to play. They only can produce limited supply due to the bug though.

Japan so far inflicted losses worth 258400 production points to their enemies and suffered losses worth 37990 production points. Japan should help the poor germans somewhat since the west loses some resources and is forced to either ignore those losses or divert significant resources to fight vs. the japanese. The war in China is an highly annoying stalemate though.

[freeboy]

I cannot win this, as the Reds are gone, and the JAps will suck much resources to defeat or stalemate.. My limited attacks into Rumania have yet to yeild enough presure to save Russia, I really needed a better ration of troops to enemy.. rushing the attacks though was the reds only hope.. now that they are all but finished I cannot see how to win..
One thing that hinders this strategic war is IT IS TOO EASY TO REBUILD DESTROYED CITIES!

[freeboy]

turn sent fyi
 

[xBoroNx]

Yeah i too think it's best to simply end the game. I think it was proof enough that without houserules the axis are near invincible. With no houserules the axis can delay barbarossa + pearl as long as they want to and spam factories.

So i think a houserule about barbarossa + pearl should do the trick, but it's tough to find a good compromise there as well i think. If you are forced to do barbarossa summer 1941 there will not be enough variance i think.

[xBoroNx]

This turn the axis shot down some allied planes who were too careless. Freeboy bombed berlin with a small group of 22 fighters and 23 levelbombers. 89 axis fighters were stationed in berlin. Losses: 11 allied levelbombers and 9 fighters vs. 3 axis fighters.

Axis are a bit reckless though in the east and lose something like 2 tanks, 50 rifles + some other stuff trying to force a river crossing. But in the big picture those losses do not matter at all. Axis total losses this turn are worth 16750 powerpoints, enemy troops worth 52480 power points are destroyed, something like 80% russian casualities, but the west also suffers some.

The Ostfront now fits on a single screen, nowhere any significant russian forces can be found and moscow, leningrad and stalingrad will fall very soon, maybe next turn, maybe in two turns.

[xBoroNx]

Turn sent.

I think one problem of this scenario is the russian production. They are way too weak in their current state.
If you use historical production though you would have to make a mod with unique units for the different factions. Otherwise the axis should have no chance.

[freeboy]

Perhaps we should change the red production from the beginning?

[xBoroNx]

Ok.

First we use your CA-Mod.
I then suggest that barbarossa and pearl harbor may both not be delayed much longer than historical, i'd suggest that a player can exceed the historic date by 1 or 2 turns, but not more.

Regarding the russians: They could indeed need a bit more production. But i am currently not sure yet. If we want to reach somewhat historic figures we would have to at least double russian production, but then the game might be too unwinable as axis.

[freeboy]

see post below in main section for discusion on housee rules