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War Plan Orange: Dreadnoughts in the Pacific 1922-1930, from the team that brought you War in the Pacific.

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Well I for one would love to have those pre-dreads, as my attempt at art ended in total failure (fortunately, I didin´t quit my day job). So good luck on AE so you can get back to those lovely, incongruous monstrosities!

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Hey I'm no artist either - I just started with an existing ship and proceeded one pixel at a time - get a decent paint program and blow up the bit maps so you can see every pixel and then you can easily change them.

Now there are real artists who do things differently and more efficiently - but my technique was just pure brute force.
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Do the waterline first - so you know how long the ship will be. John Eldredge on the AE team has a system - he could probably turn you on to - if you like.

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Well if it is a system, then that sounds great, I will give it a try! So what do I do?
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I finally have resources to print the manual so, I think I'll be playing it soon.
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PM JWE.
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Hi, I pm´d you, please let me know if you didn´t get it. Thanks!

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Right, you PM'd me - I said PM JWE - he is the one with the real system. My system is just take a ship that is close to the one I want to make and change the pixels - mostly one by one - until I have the pixels I want - slow - but I have lots of control. Now there are real computer artists who do things differently - I am not among them so I know not how they do things.

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Sorry to have bothered you , these old eyes of mine don´t work like they used to.
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I just got the game a couple weeks ago&nbsp;- just in time to miss the current $10 off sale <doh!>. Visited the forum quite a bit before purchasing, the AARs were eventually what won me over. Love it so far - am learning the rules using Clash of the Titans scenerio as a guide. Still have a bit to learn, would like to get past the "dumb mistake" phase before&nbsp;trying PEBM.
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At least in this game there is always time to fix those mistakes... :)
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Well, my most spectacular newbie mistake so far has been allowing my dreadnoughts to run out of ammo, and keeping them on Patrol/Do not Retire with a reaction range of 6 when the enemy fleet came to town. Wasn't pretty at all [X(].

I really enjoy reading your AARs Rysyoonok, as well as the others that are currently active.
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Well,
Hi all. I decided to throw myself at WITP AE having had no experience at all with this system but got WPO as a more manageable introduction to the basics and I am absolutely loving it.

My first effort at Clash of the Titans was more "Clash of the Titan v Mickey Mouse" but I am having a second effort and the Jap AI has changed its first approach completely and I have just succeeded in fighting off a 3 pronged invasion in the PI and am having a very bloody time getting ashore in Formosa with a counter attack of my own.

I am only 2 weeks into the scenario but it is very full on and highly recommended.

This is staying on my HD even though it was bought as a cheap tutorial.Glad others are also enjoying it.

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My history:

I've had WITP since it came out. I was always intimidated by the grand campaign, and wound up using the game as a more refined version of Uncommon Valor, playing the south pacific scenario. Indonesia/Malaysia always seemed like a rat's nest to me with regard to the logistics involved.

When AE came out, I started diddling with the campaign game, since the "UV" scenario isn't there (yet). At this point I'm just testing the waters, but I'm actually further along than I was with WITP.

Then, this weekend, I cranked up WPO on a whim. I had been too chicken here to try the campaign, also. Well, I started it up and contrary to my stereotyping, this is really manageable! I've got the 1922 campaign going and am having fun with it. The Japanese AI seems content to hit the US holdings. The Japanese holdings in Indochina aren't at the same level as in WITP, so there's no blitzkrieg happening through the DEI. The European powers have a reduced presence as well, and I'm pretty content to chill with them unless provoked. On top of this, there’s a thrill to having an old 19th century monitor sitting in Manila. Too bad it needs fixing. Too many barnicles, I guess. I hadn’t looked too closely at the particular ships in each class when throwing together task forces. I’ve decided that I really need to send all the Spanish-American War veterans stateside for coastal defense. It was neat seeing the USS Olympia there. Gridley will fire when ready should the Japanese hit San Diego.

So I figure, I’ll have my fun with this, getting used to all the bases and place names in the game. Once the first or second AE patch is out, I’ll dip my toe in again.

Sorry for rambling…

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I agree, as far as playability is concerned, WPO is definitely a more manageable alternative to WITP. I also enjoy seeing those old veteran ships. Along with Olympia there are a ton of others as well, including the Baltimore converted to a minelayer.

The IJN also have a number of Russian pre-dreadnoughts that they captured during the RJW. All in all, a lot of fun stuff in this game!
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I too bought this game with AE to complete the collection, but have already spent more time on it than AE. Those huge battle ships give the game a real romantic feel as an era long since past. I haven't played enough of either to say I like one over the other,... in fact I don't ever see that happening. They are two distinct beasts and I look forward to many years of playing both. Cheers!
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The Japanese, in particular, field a very interesting mix of weapons in this game, ranging from British-built battleships and aircraft, Russian battleships (some of which were built in England, Germany, Italy, or the USA) captured from the Russo-Japanese War, and German U-boats given to them after WWI as war prizes. Very different from the fleet they had in 1941.

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I agree, as far as playability is concerned, WPO is definitely a more manageable alternative to WITP. I also enjoy seeing those old veteran ships. Along with Olympia there are a ton of others as well, including the Baltimore converted to a minelayer.

The IJN also have a number of Russian pre-dreadnoughts that they captured during the RJW. All in all, a lot of fun stuff in this game!
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ORIGINAL: devoncop
My first effort at Clash of the Titans was more "Clash of the Titan v Mickey Mouse" but I am having a second effort and the Jap AI has changed its first approach completely and I have just succeeded in fighting off a 3 pronged invasion in the PI and am having a very bloody time getting ashore in Formosa with a counter attack of my own.

Interesting. I've always found AI to be very... timid. But I guess with a short scenario each HQ can be scripted to defend/attack very specific locations... :)
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Hi Rysyonok,

Well i finished the Titan scenario today with a "Decisive Victory" having taken Sakashima,the whole of Okinowa island and won Bataan Island back but without invading Formosa.The sinkings of ships in terms of points were 2 to 1 in my favour and aircraft losses about even.
I enjoyed the first half in particular but by September you are right, the Japanese AI became very timid utilising only its subs and the occasional LBA strike.
I checked at the end and Formosa had huge amounts of troops/fuel/supplies although I had hit the auxilliary fleet pretty hard.

I have learnt a lot of the mechanics of this system though.

Is the campaign AI as timid?

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Sadly, yes.
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Does raising the difficulty level help the campaign AI? I'm playing Allies on Historical Difficulty, mid November in the 1922 campaign. I'm still having fun, but mostly because I'm still learning new things and trying new stuff. The 3 times I've encountered IJN BBs or CAs so far they ran away before any major damage could be done by either side. I was hoping once I learned the ropes the AI could give me a more serious challenge on higher levels before I consider moving to PBEM. So far my biggest challenge has been so many unescorted AP and AK targets off Luzon my subs and warships can't intercept them all before running out of ammo.
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