OT: A sure sign of the end of times......

[bradfordkay]

One problem with getting the Belgian Trappist Ales over here in the US is that microbrews don't really travel all that well. They're still better than the mass produced horsep*ss, but they're substantially off their prime. My preference is generally to drink the local microbrews wherever I am. this strategy has rarely failed me.

[pasternakski]

...and what's so wrong with a light, refreshing lager that quenches the thirst when iced down on a hot summer day?

People badmouth Spudweiser all the time, and I don't understand it. I guess maybe everybody always likes to throw cowdung at the big guy, but, come on. What do you want? Egg in your beer?

Shoot, I even used to drink copious quantities of Bud Light before I had to give up hittin' the schwiel altogether. I liked it.

I remember my son trying to get used to the idea that his old man, a white hoser descended from Dutch stock, liked women of African descent. Once, I got involved with a Chinese woman, and sonny boy was a little confused. He asked me about it.

I told him, "Son, even the greatest of wine tasters has to cleanse his palate once in awhile."

Yeah, the heavier tasting beers were a big part of my out-of-control habit, but I always subscribed to the Archie Bunker philosophy that, "You can't buy beer, you can only rent it."

And, brother, I rented my share. It couldn't all be designer brew.

[although this post shows as being in response to yours, Brad, it is just intended as general commentary - and maybe amusement at my expense. I'm not accusing you of being a hop-headed dilettante.]

[bradfordkay]

Hey Past... it's not just mass produced american beer that I deplore. It's the mass produced stuff from all over (there was a particularly bad one in France - not Export 33, but it was in green bottles).

Believe me, I've drunk my share of american lagers (I've even drunk at least a couple of cases of Billy Beer!) - but since I decided to cut waaayyy back on drinking, I've decided that I'd rather drink the local stuff. Catch a little local flavor, so to speak...

i didn't take offense at your post, but did feel it best to explain better my recent foray into beer snobbery

[06 Maestro]

IBev drove the stock price of Budweiser up about 40% in its take-over effort. That amounts to many billions of dollars more for a company that only makes lousy beer. It is even more difficult to understand when they say they won't change anything.

Bud is not a bad beer. There are probably a hundred million people who love it. People who would spit out that flat, warm, bitter piss water that some other folks call beer-but I digress. Sure, Bud will go flat if you let it stand for an hour. If you can't drink it in a few minutes, you were not thirsty anyway.

One thing will change for sure, the cost of a beer. InBev spent $50,000,000,000 to take over Budweiser. They will certainly want to recover that as quickly as possible. With any major competition out of the way, they can now charge what they want-or closer to it. So, before anyone starts celebrating the demise of Bud, (which is not going away anyway), they need to take another look at their recreational drinking budget, and plan on spending more.

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Hey Past... it's not just mass produced american beer that I deplore. It's the mass produced stuff from all over (there was a particularly bad one in France - not Export 33, but it was in green bottles).

Believe me, I've drunk my share of american lagers (I've even drunk at least a couple of cases of Billy Beer!) - but since I decided to cut waaayyy back on drinking, I've decided that I'd rather drink the local stuff. Catch a little local flavor, so to speak...

i didn't take offense at your post, but did feel it best to explain better my recent foray into beer snobbery

Aaaahh, pal, the worst I ever ran across was some stuff called Buckhorn. A friend of mine and I "liberated" a few gallons of herbicide from a roadside ditch spraying crew one time, and "sold" it to a farmer for a couple of cases of beer to be left out back of the local tavern.

When we went to pick it up, it was "Buckhorn." You talk about green beer? This stuff was so raw, it probably still had live weevils from the hop field swimming around in it. Ugh.

Yeah, if you can cut back, you probably want to enjoy the good stuff. Me, I could never do it. It was either be an unconscionable sauce hitter or give it up completely, for me.

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: 06 Maestro

IBev drove the stock price of Budweiser up about 40% in its take-over effort. That amounts to many billions of dollars more for a company that only makes lousy beer. It is even more difficult to understand when they say they won't change anything.

Bud is not a bad beer. There are probably a hundred million people who love it. People who would spit out that flat, warm, bitter piss water that some other folks call beer-but I digress. Sure, Bud will go flat if you let it stand for an hour. If you can't drink it in a few minutes, you were not thirsty anyway.

One thing will change for sure, the cost of a beer. InBev spent $50,000,000,000 to take over Budweiser. They will certainly want to recover that as quickly as possible. With any major competition out of the way, they can now charge what they want-or closer to it. So, before anyone starts celebrating the demise of Bud, (which is not going away anyway), they need to take another look at their recreational drinking budget, and plan on spending more.

Well, if I was still tippin' it, I'd tell 'em this. For 25 bucks a 30-pack, it's horse water. For 17 bucks, it's nectar of the gods...

[captskillet]

I have gone from 4.99 a case DIXIE/Falstaff in my college days to Heavy ales and everything in between.........its all about taste and as Pasternaski put it so well to me on a hot summer day on the lake nothings better than an ice cold Bud. Now as far as Micro brews Shiner Bock or Fat Tire gets me.............now if you just want a buzz then Micro brew whiskey (otherwise known as Harrison County Texas corn squeezins') is top on the list [;)] [:D] !!!!

PS.....Term.....you would know a good beer if it ran over you in a truck you young whipper snapper!!!!! [:'(]

[m10bob]

ORIGINAL: Mr. Skullduggery

1) InBev brews Bass Ale, so they are not all bad.
2) Time to support your local micro brew. I prefer Schell's (Local Minnesota) and Fat Tire.

I've been in Schell's brewery. Very old civil war era brick bldg in Mankato (IIRC?)Maybe New Ulm??..I thought they had sold out back in the early eighties..

[Bogo Mil]

Budweiser is a great beer. You just have to forget Anhuser-Bush and try the real one:

[Przemcio231]

Try Warka Strong this beer rocks[:D]

[mikemike]

BTW, this thread is not so terribly OT at all. One of InBev's best-known brands is Beck's, which has traditionally been the German sailor's beer (probably because it travelled well). They still have a strong nautical theme in their advertising (sponsoring a three-master tall ship with green sails, f.i.). German ships operating in the Indian Ocean/Pacific region in WWII would have had bottles of Beck's aboard for the delectation of the crew.

As to Belgian beer, they have developed weirdness to an art form there. If you want cherry- or chocolate-flavored beer, you'll find it in Belgium. And that probably isn't even the outer limit.
On the other hand, Belgian chocolates and Belgian fries are the world's best.

[pasternakski]

ORIGINAL: mikemike

As to Belgian beer, they have developed weirdness to an art form there.

I'm belchin' just thinkin' about it...

[Nikademus]

there's always Old English 800.

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: captskillet

Anhuser-Busch will no longer be American owned...............[X(] [8|] ..................Miller and Coors had already sold their souls to the Devil ! I guess its time to start drinking Samuel Adams, Shiner Bock or go south of the border and go with Tecate!!!!



The Link

SHINER BOCK SHINER BOCK SHINER BOCK. come to the dark side that is texas.

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

ORIGINAL: Mike Scholl

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Dudweiser isn't beer anyway, so it doesn't really count...[:'(][;)][:D]

Keep in mind that Bud is brewed in the American Midwest for people who have to survive summers there. I enjoy ales and stouts as well (in the Winter).., but when the temperature is still 90 degrees at midnight, the heavier brews are like drinking molassas. Ice cold Lager is just what the Doctor ordered.

That's when you go for an India Pale Ale - those were developed by the Brits for the hotter climes...

there are some really good ipa's brewed by american brewers. i like avery's and breckenridge small batch 471. i live in texas and most of our micro brewers are german style beers(there is a large german community in south texas). it gets pretty hot down here and an amber or a bock still tastes damn good. stouts are a little much though in the heat..

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: Sarganto

InBev has some good german beer brands like Becks and Franziskaner. So why not switch sides completely and go with these?

cause becks sucks about as much as budweiser.

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: pasternakski

ORIGINAL: bradfordkay

Hey Past... it's not just mass produced american beer that I deplore. It's the mass produced stuff from all over (there was a particularly bad one in France - not Export 33, but it was in green bottles).

Believe me, I've drunk my share of american lagers (I've even drunk at least a couple of cases of Billy Beer!) - but since I decided to cut waaayyy back on drinking, I've decided that I'd rather drink the local stuff. Catch a little local flavor, so to speak...

i didn't take offense at your post, but did feel it best to explain better my recent foray into beer snobbery

Aaaahh, pal, the worst I ever ran across was some stuff called Buckhorn. A friend of mine and I "liberated" a few gallons of herbicide from a roadside ditch spraying crew one time, and "sold" it to a farmer for a couple of cases of beer to be left out back of the local tavern.

When we went to pick it up, it was "Buckhorn." You talk about green beer? This stuff was so raw, it probably still had live weevils from the hop field swimming around in it. Ugh.

Yeah, if you can cut back, you probably want to enjoy the good stuff. Me, I could never do it. It was either be an unconscionable sauce hitter or give it up completely, for me.

steel city or steel something from pittsburg was the worst followed closely by macensens XXX and the origional breckinridge ips(the 471 small batch they make now is my fav ipa but god was their origional recipie awful).

[bobogoboom]

ORIGINAL: Nikademus

there's always Old English 800.

or mad dog or colt 45 or mickeys..........ahhh highschool and mickeys mondays.[8|]

[bobogoboom]

i have a lot to say about beer

[Nixuebrig]

ORIGINAL: mikemike

BTW, this thread is not so terribly OT at all. One of InBev's best-known brands is Beck's, which has traditionally been the German sailor's beer (probably because it travelled well). They still have a strong nautical theme in their advertising (sponsoring a three-master tall ship with green sails, f.i.). German ships operating in the Indian Ocean/Pacific region in WWII would have had bottles of Beck's aboard for the delectation of the crew.

And I wonder why we lost the war. Becks surely kills all fighting spirit. I mean Mint in beer? Guess was only for interrogation purposes "Tell us where you ships are, or you have to drink a Becks Ice&Mint. And if it`s a lie, you get two bottles of Becks Green Lemon" Oki, would be against the convention of Geneva [;)]

If you want good german beer, my advice would be "Flensburger Pilsner".