First Action at Pearl Harbor

[Droop21]

I had a lucky first turn for the ships: only 1 BB and 7 DD sunk in Pearl. Repulse took a series of torps and I'm not sure she'll be able to limp back to Singapour. Oahu airport does not exist anymore, I have less than 10 planes capable of flying. The question is: will the KB give Pearl another serving? All my capital ships got badly pasted (including 2 torps by those wretched mini-subs) and a second raid would spell disaster for my navy.
I got surprised by the landings, some of the usual landings did not occur, which makes me even more nervous: where will these troops land ?
Got to find an excuse to leave the office early, to have some time before the wife arrives [8D]
 

[John Lansford]

There may be something wrong with your damage outcome resolution; the Pearl Harbor damage reports are of two types; devastating destruction or barely anything at all.  Where's the historical results?  Shouldn't that be the most likely outcome?
 
My first turn ended up with 58 out of 74 torpedoes finding a target; of the ones that missed, I remember perhaps 3 being duds.  Oklahoma, WV (also hit by a midget sub), California and Maryland sunk, the rest are heavily damaged but probably saveable.  Arizona took 6 torpedoes and is barely floating; Tennessee got hit by 4 and is in similar shape.  Only one cruiser (Minneapolis) undamaged.  About half a dozen destroyers sunk or damaged, plus a similar number of auxiliaries hit.  Oh, and a sub too.
 
The British fared much better, mainly because a squadron of Buffaloes from Singapore made an appearance and broke up a couple of attacks on PoW and Repulse.  PoW made it back to Singapore with just bomb damage, but Repulse is still limping back with 3 torpedoes in her.  To add insult to injury, in my turn phase a DD heading for Manila hit a sneaky little minefield laid off of Bataan and is now stuck in harbor getting fixed.
 
Has anyone had results of the Pearl Harbor attack more closely resemble the actual event?  Oh, and mine was done with "Allied surprise" turned off, so the damage should have been less.

[DuckofTindalos]

Your PH result is at the far end of a VERY wide spectrum, John. I'm not saying that you don't have a valid viewpoint, but there has to be room for extreme outcomes as well.

[m10bob]

I just fired this baby up..At Pearl, a midget sub hit a BB with a torp and 6 BB's were sunk on 1 day turns..This GAME just got a WHOLE LOT BETTER!!!!!!

[Mike Scholl]

ORIGINAL: Terminus
I'm not saying that you don't have a valid viewpoint, but there has to be room for extreme outcomes as well.

Agreed. But when you look at the results being posted it looks as if the "extreme" is coming up a lot more frequently than the "average". Like the "bell curve" has been turned upside down...

[DuckofTindalos]

I don't agree. Looks to me like we have a spread, and also that we don't have enough data yet to form an opinion.

Not saying there's nothing to tweak, but that the game's only a day old.

[Yakface]

Am I the only one to have sunk nothing at PH after the first day?

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: Yakface

Am I the only one to have sunk nothing at PH after the first day?

Nope I only sank 1 BB and scored nary a hit on PoW and Repulse.

[Erik Rutins]

You can't really create an analysis of PH results from occasional forum posts. The people most likely to post are those who got the more extreme results and were surprised enough to mention them. In pre-release testing, we saw a very nice bell curve centered around the roughly historical results (2-4 BBs). Let's give this a few weeks to shake out, if there's a consensus at that point that things are off (and having some occasional extreme results is not a bad thing) then we can make adjustments.

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

You can't create an analysis of PH results from forum posts guys. The people most likely to post are those who got the more extreme results and were surprised enough to mention them. In pre-release testing, we saw a very nice bell curve centered around the roughly historical results (2-4 BBs).

Yes we did...in fact I was one of the foot draggers because I kept getting killed at PH....then I ran off a hundred or more first days ... and realized I was simply having bad luck...there is a bell curve.

[Mundy]

There do seem to be healthy discrepancies between both sides’ reports in some of the listed AARs.
 
M-

[Graycompany]

I had 3 BB's Sunk at pearl, 1 torp hit from a midget sub on the Maryland, 1 Cl sunk, 140 planes destroyed. The Pow took 1 Torp during the AM phase, and 5 more in the PM phase, and sunk, Repulse made it back to singapore unharmed.

I also want to note that the Combat screen at PH was of Ford Island. That was very cool, what was even better, on the 2nd day of attacks, it showed Ford Isle again, but this time it showed burning ships and smoke. Just so im not over tired , I really did see that, right?

amazing job

[grraven2004]

What my first impressions are reading all the reports is it seems that it takes less torps to sink a BB now that in WiTP. Before it took 5-7 hits to kill one. Now i've seen as few as 3 kill a BB. Also seems a single will kill a DD fairly effective. I wonder what will happen once the MK14 dud ratio stops. Already starting to worry about my merchies and I haven't even got the game yet!

[treespider]

ORIGINAL: Graycompany

I had 3 BB's Sunk at pearl, 1 torp hit from a midget sub on the Maryland, 1 Cl sunk, 140 planes destroyed. The Pow took 1 Torp during the AM phase, and 5 more in the PM phase, and sunk, Repulse made it back to singapore unharmed.

I also want to note that the Combat screen at PH was of Ford Island. That was very cool, what was even better, on the 2nd day of attacks, it showed Ford Isle again, but this time it showed burning ships and smoke. Just so im not over tired , I really did see that, right?

amazing job

Yes you did see that right...

[Graycompany]

good, for a moment I thought I may need new glasses.

[Erik Rutins]

ORIGINAL: Graycompany
I also want to note that the Combat screen at PH was of Ford Island. That was very cool, what was even better, on the 2nd day of attacks, it showed Ford Isle again, but this time it showed burning ships and smoke. Just so im not over tired , I really did see that, right?
amazing job

Yep. Glad someone noticed that and there are more Pearl screens as well. [8D]

[Graycompany]

Is it true that Terminus did some of the voice overs? I thought I heard during a torp hitting the side of a ship, someone saying "No"

[Erik Rutins]

Well, Terminus is a brain in a jar, so technically he has no voice. [;)]

[Graycompany]

this him?

[Lomri]

ORIGINAL: treespider

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

You can't create an analysis of PH results from forum posts guys. The people most likely to post are those who got the more extreme results and were surprised enough to mention them. In pre-release testing, we saw a very nice bell curve centered around the roughly historical results (2-4 BBs).

Yes we did...in fact I was one of the foot draggers because I kept getting killed at PH....then I ran off a hundred or more first days ... and realized I was simply having bad luck...there is a bell curve.

Not to mention if people are really concerned about unhistorical first turns they can start on the Dec 8th scenario.