Witp Aar

Kitakami · Post by **Kitakami** » Fri May 03, 2002 7:06 pm

Gentlemen,

When I read the first post in this thread I almost choked... I have been lurking on this board for a while, waiting for the call to beta Witp (and hoping my 22 years of experience as a carboard general/admiral might count for something).

Anyway, just wanted to say hi and that I have enjoyed (and learned from) your posts (yes, I read ALL of them).

Ron Saueracker · Post by **Ron Saueracker** » Fri May 03, 2002 8:10 pm

Let me guess, you like playing the "bad dudes?":D

Kitakami · Post by **Kitakami** » Fri May 03, 2002 8:19 pm

Well, philosophically speaking, there are no inocents in war.

But you could say that yes, I like to play the Axis side in WWII, and the South in the US Civil War... must be some strange type of animal, but at least I tend to give opponents a good run for their money

mogami · Post by **mogami** » Sat May 04, 2002 1:56 am

Hi, Hey Kitakami don't let that mean old Canuck scare you. I like your nickname (Kitakami and Oi are 2 of my favorite ships)
We play wargames. If they were political games and we picked these regimes we might be suspect.

Kitakami · Post by **Kitakami** » Sat May 04, 2002 3:13 am

Hi Mogami!

A man after my own heart, one with a good name!

I think the Oi and the Kitakami, like the other 6 torpedo cruisers (although not so heavily loaded) show much of what the Japanese had to do with limited resources. Sinkable? Definitely, but don't let them catch you unaware in a night surface engagement...

Anyway, thanks for the welcome.

mogami · Post by **mogami** » Sat May 04, 2002 4:05 am

Hi, the problem the IJN faces in War-games is the TF sizes are always so large. I like to make smaller TF but then you always run in allied ones that are maxed. (I am speaking of PacWar) hopefully this will be negated a little in WitP by strict fuel rules.
Or limiting leaders to what they can control (higher rated leaders can control a larger TF then lower rated leader) My gripe being there is very little opportunity for small IJN TF's to inflict damage without themselves being destroyed. Still it is a tactic i employ especially in Solomon's area. I send TF of 2-3 CL and 6-8 DD they encounter allied TF of 4 BB 6CA 2 CL and 3groups of DD (3-15)
my force is severely damaged but sometimes manages to sink a BB or CA worth more then my combined TF. In Witp I hope to be able to produce more CL (I don't think I would try to build anything much larger) Japanese CL's are very strange ships compared to allied (esp British) some British CL were larger then some British CA. Japanese CL are mostly just super DD. And the game scale usally does not allow for successfull small TF employment.

Fred98 · Post by **Fred98** » Sat May 04, 2002 5:28 am

I have seen the campaign map as I suppose everybody has.

I would have thought the full campaign would start with the Japanese fighting the Russians/Chinese during the 1930's.

Pearl Harbour/Malaya only happened some years later.

The attacks on Pearl Harbour and Malaya were simultaneous.

Ron Saueracker · Post by **Ron Saueracker** » Sat May 04, 2002 7:15 am

Mean old Canuck? Sheesh! Well, maybe somewhat on Canadian Club.:rolleyes:

What do you mean, IJN CL's are strange? The small ones were simply old designs (with the exception of the somewhat rvolutionary design, Yubari), not much different than the British C and D classes and the American junk piles known as the Omaha class. Correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't the Brooklyn and Southampton class CLs built to counter the MOGAMI class of CL?:D The fact that they were rapidly upgunned from 5 triple 6" to 5 twin 8" turrets (making them less effective in night engagements due to the slower rate of fire as it turned out) does not change this fact. Mogami, you of all people...

byron13 · Post by **byron13** » Tue May 14, 2002 9:02 pm

I kind of wonder what AAR's will look like in WitP. It could be that the game is so massive and with so much going on that the playtester will not be able to keep track of it all or transcribe it in a reasonable amount of space. The playtester will almost certainly not be able to describe each battle in the kind of detail to which we've grown accustomed. Will we be satisfied?

U2 · Post by U2 » Tue May 14, 2002 9:24 pm

Hi!

Satisfied? Yes I think so. I went to the PACWAR forum yesterday and someone had posted AARs!!! WHY!? Well anyway I read some and it was quite well done and redable. But no future game will have the sort of great AARs that we all read and loved at the UV forum.

Dan

Hartmann · Post by **Hartmann** » Tue May 14, 2002 9:25 pm

Originally posted by Mike Wood
SNIP and I am upgrading the data-base editor and working on the patch for Uncommon Valor. We will be adding some WiP features into that patch (really an upgrade).
SNIP____________________________________

Guys, did you all miss THIS?!? IMO that's the really pertinent news right now. Great!

Hartmann

Witp Aar

Greetings

Nickname

Bad dudes

Hi Kitakami

Japanese ships

TF sizes

Mogami!!!

Hi!