Ok, bought it and my impressions

Distant Worlds is a vast, pausable real-time, 4X space strategy game which models a "living galaxy" with incredible options for replayability and customizability. Experience the full depth and detail of large turn-based strategy games, but with the simplicity and ease of real-time, and on the scale of a massively-multiplayer online game. Now greatly enhanced with the new Universe release, which includes all four previous releases as well as the new Universe expansion!

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RE: Ok, bought it and my impressions

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I do think, even with the slowest setting, things are going at quite a pace. Turn based I could handle better I think

I do not understand the moaning about the real time gameplay where you can pause give orders and change the speed of the game,just like in Europa Universalis.Most turn based game have loads of “pass” turns with little to do.

Meh, some of us just don't like real time under any circumstances. We tolerate it if the rest of the game is otherwise good, but imagine how much better it would be in a proper turn based package.

Of course the trouble with DW and EU is that there is just too much to do/keep track of. Automation helps, as does simply playing enough to become completely familiar with all the nuances, but the problem becomes that if one finds the real time aspect too annoying or complex or whatever then one doesn't ever get to that point. For what it's worth, I really want to like DW, and am giving it a fair shake, but I do believe that eventually I'm going to dislike the real time aspect enough that I'll wind up shelving it, just like I did to EU2 (I never bothered with EU3 or HOI or any of those others for this reason).

And of course I don't understand why people who love the pausable real time think it's actually superior to a well designed turn based system, but to each their own.

[my feeling is that some people find it easier to deal with the messages when they come in a batch at the start of a turn, rather than when you feel as though you need to constantly be pausing the game to look at everything that pops up now and then, you may feel there is little difference, but again, it's a personal thing how people like to respond to 'events']
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Hey, people like what they like and don't what they don't. There are, thankfully, plenty of games in this subgenre which are both turn-based and real-time that everyone can play something they like. :)
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Hey, people like what they like and don't what they don't. There are, thankfully, plenty of games in this subgenre which are both turn-based and real-time that everyone can play something they like. :)

Of course there are, but it's more fun to remind everyone of the differences [:'(]
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I'm loving the game. I've been playing 4X games since the 80's, and my favorite one, honestly, is Imperium Galactica II, which is a real time game. This one is actually giving IG2 a run for its money, IMO. It seems to combine a lot of disparate elements from games I love, such as exploration from Starflight, conquest from the MoO and IG games and adds their own littlw twist to it. Really very enjoyable.

Oh yeah, I know IG2 that was a fun game I used to love it. I still have it but have not played it in a while. I know all about the hearts of iron series that others mentioned on here, awesome WW2 game especially the 3rd one. DW game reminds me just a tad bit of that but not too much. So it appears my observations are kind of right, many do feel DW is a collection of several great games into one. A couple others asked why I like armada well I like armada for many reasons, its just a great game and that last patch, boy did it do a number! I remember many late and long games just having a blast playing it. I love to sit and watch my troopships moving in to land the troops on the planets... "gentlemen, prepare your troops for surface attack". [:D] Then the thing about me is I like GalCiv2, Sins, SotS, Lost Empire, SE5, all of them I think are great games. I had MORE then my share of fun with every last one of them. Now we have yet another great game, DW. I am in trouble once again, its late and I need to get in bed! [X(]

@Tanaka, I have WitP but not AE yet. You can bet that is on my "too buy" list and I love the pic of the japanese cruiser in your sig
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Only to say... this game rocks !!!

I find it a different and revolutionary space game.
Go on

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Late in bed, I had that last night [:D]
I'm interested in SE4, how micro management intensive is it. What is it focus, strenghts and weakeness, how does it compare to DW and Galciv2/Sins?
BTW I like Sins a lot, and the AI has really improved (and is though, as stardock is know for making good AI) + the new mini expansion has a focus on diplomacy.
I would be willing pay for expansions for DW (but please first fix the remaining minor issues with patches and include players' feedback).
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Initial thoughts on learning/playing DW.

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I found that I needed to turn all the automation off so I could do things myself. When I first started playing and all the automation was on I was totally confused and felt out of control. Everything was happening around me without me actually knowing what was going on.

I have now started on a small 500 star game with 1 colony and only 1 other empire at a distance just so I can learn how to move ships, navigate menus, give orders and actually see what I've done happen! So when I find a good planet to colonize, build a colony ship, send it on its way and see it colonize it I know I have done that, ie. so I know I am at least doing it right, albeit very slowly. Once you have done that a number of times you soon get up to speed and what seemed like a major step then becomes very easy.

I think someone else said it already but I do feel that automation actually hinders you learning the game. Automation is a powerful tool but I think the game needs to be fully understood before setting it loose and it also needs to be reigned in at times.

Like a lot of people on this forum I too have played most if not all 4X space strategy games over the years with my first one being Starflight on the Sega megadrive. My favorite, up to now maybe, was Ascendancy (shame about the AI, even with the "Antagonizer" patch).

It was just something about the epic size and scope of this game that made my jaded spider senses tingle and that doesn't happen very often now.

I too am confused, but in a good way also but I just keep chipping away at certain portions of the game until it becomes second nature and then move on.

To summerize then: While I'm learning the game I turn automation off, start with one colony on one planet with one distant empire in a small galaxy. I do everything myself so I am actually learning how to play and not watching the AI play the game.

This way I feel in control and can readily see the fruits of my own labour. While this approach won't win any games in the long run it will bring you up to speed and help you to understand the game.

While this may not work for everyone, try it, it certainly helped me.


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RE: Initial thoughts on learning/playing DW.

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Nice comments, drillerman. Might try to play a new game without automation. ;)

And not to be a dick or anything, but Starflight toooooooooootally wasn't a 4X game, it's more of an adventure/RPG game set in space. ;) Totally agree with ya on Ascendancy though, loved the hell out of that game.
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RE: Initial thoughts on learning/playing DW.

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Hi Veloxi,
You are right about Starflight and I also wonder if Ascendancy would hold up today if they could just sort out the AI, I think it could.
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Ascendancy still does hold up, IMHO. I played a couple of games recently, even with the AI I had a very good time.
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RE: Initial thoughts on learning/playing DW.

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Ah, I miss Ascendency. Can we even buy that game anymore? If anything just for nastalgia.
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Both Amazon and ebay have copies. You can also download an "abandonware" copy at Abandonia.
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Thank you Veloxi. I went to Abandonia, I am not paying $60 for it lol. Now when will I find the time to play it? I have all my time on DW right now [:)]
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Heh, IMO it's worth owning just for the music. ;)
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