More news when? Also... Who else needs more readable fonts?

[Gertjan]

Thanks, especially for updating the galactopedia. I suppose the galactopedia will also be revised for the vanilla version of the game?

[Arboris]

ORIGINAL: Carewolf

To clarify: Do you just want bigger text or a different font?

I could imagine just taking DPI into consideration would solve the size problem. You probably have the same problem on the Windows Desktop and have set the font-size setting (indirectly setting the logical DPI), so the game could reuse the Windows setting.

But I am not a developer, I am just trying to clarify the wish.

I would like the option to increase the size of the font. However, it is possible that a new font might do the trick as well.

-Arboris

[martok]

Thanks for the small update, Erik. I won't deny the lack of information has been frustrating, but I also know you guys have been busy. I'm especially glad to hear the galactopedia update will be incorporated into the vanilla game (as well as the expansion).

ORIGINAL: Gertjan

Thanks, especially for updating the galactopedia. I suppose the galactopedia will also be revised for the vanilla version of the game?

Yes. From Erik's above post:

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

I can say that the promised mod support and the galactopedia update will be in the expansion, though we also plan to add those enhancements to the next original DW release update.

Regards,

- Erik

[Gertjan]

Sorry I should have read it better.

[martok]

No apology necessary, mate. It was a point worth emphasizing anyway. [:)]

[Igard]

It'd be cool to be able to change the font to one of our choosing.

I've got a few Star Trek fonts that would really look good.

I've added this to the modders wishlist thread.

[ASHBERY76]

[WoodMan]

Thats a good example of a nice readable font [:D]

[ductape]

well I am nt mister corrector but that font isn't very readable. I think it means that...WTF are we waiting for? NEWS PLEASE!

[NefariousKoel]

ORIGINAL: ductape

well I am nt mister corrector but that font isn't very readable. I think it means that...WTF are we waiting for? NEWS PLEASE!

I just thought of translating that into a DW font at hi-res but I'm not very motivated just now.

[Arboris]

ORIGINAL: ductape

well I am nt mister corrector but that font isn't very readable. I think it means that...WTF are we waiting for? NEWS PLEASE!

I would be happy if someone would confirm if there are plans to address the readabilty of the text in either a future patch or the expansion.

-ZeroSum

[Aures]

*gobsmacked*

*shakes head*

ZeroSum, I sympathise with your difficulty with the font. It is fine for my eyes at 1920x1200 but I can understand how frustrating it would be to have something like that getting in the way of your enjoyment of the game.

I'll bite my tongue and avoid responding to everything wrong with that last post. No sense stirring stuff up. Suffice it to say I mention your concern about text legibility because it is the only thing in that post I don't take issue with.

[NefariousKoel]

[:D]

The font size doesn't bother me, it's just the specific font itself at hi-res gets blurred across partial pixels somehow and is rather messy.

[Arboris]

ORIGINAL: Aures

*gobsmacked*

*shakes head*

ZeroSum, I sympathise with your difficulty with the font. It is fine for my eyes at 1920x1200 but I can understand how frustrating it would be to have something like that getting in the way of your enjoyment of the game.

I'll bite my tongue and avoid responding to everything wrong with that last post. No sense stirring stuff up. Suffice it to say I mention your concern about text legibility because it is the only thing in that post I don't take issue with.

After reading your polite response to my post I could see that a portion of what I said was unfair and so I edited those comments out.

Thank you!

-ZeroSum

[Arboris]

ORIGINAL: NefariousKoel

[:D]

The font size doesn't bother me, it's just the specific font itself at hi-res gets blurred across partial pixels somehow and is rather messy.

I agree that the specific font itself is what I would like to see changed. However, a font size option would be nice as well.

-ZeroSum

[Aures]

No problem Zero Sum, as you can probably guess from my response I have had my fair share of experience with stuff that is said innocently but can be taken the wrong way. Glad my feedback got to you before someone started unpacking the flame throwers.

Unfortunately because of where DW is atm it is unlikely that you will get a confirmation of the devs intentions until the expansion is out (or at least properly announced). I respect their desire to keep things completely under wraps and I think it is smart to avoid making statements about things before they are finalised. That said I agree in principle with your suggestion, it is clear from the responses to this thread that many people experience the same problem you do.

Just because specific information is not being posted on the public forums by devs atm does not change that you and others experiencing legibility issues can probably provide some more detailed feedback that will assist in any attempt to improve legibility. As I do not have any issue reading the text in game my concern is that there may be some windows setting/s affecting legibility rather than just eyesight (I don't wear glasses for computer use but my eyesight is not 20/20). I know the software I support professionally has issues with several windows display settings and they can be a can of worms for form environments. Fortunately that software runs on a dedicated server environment with remote desktops so it does not have to support non standard windows settings but commercial games like DW have to work with whatever people have set up.

I am using Windows 7 and have all the defaults selected (in control panel>display font size is set to 100%, clear type is on with the default settings, custom DPI is set to 100%) at a resolution of 1920x1200 on a 24 inch monitor (I think that means a pitch of 0.27). It is possible that some setting that users with eyesight issues change to improve general legibility is having the unintended effect of reducing legibility in DW, knowledge of what settings you are using may be helpful. If you have time messing around with those same settings to see if it has any effect (particularly setting things back to default) could also be useful. Or it could be an issue with monitor size/pitch so knowing how big your screen is may be important. If my monitor was 28 inches I might find the text at 1920x1200 blurred and hard to read.

ZeroSum, as this is your thread and you are quite keen on this issue would you be willing to take some screenshots and post them up like the one I have added at the end of this post? I would suggest taking a print screen, dumping into paint, cropping a small section of the screen with legibility issues (such as the unit detail panel as I have) and post a gif (to avoid compression issues with jpgs). If it is an issue with some windows setting then the difference between what you and I see should be evident on the screenshot. If it is just a matter of screen size or eyesight then both screenshots should be about the same and I should have no trouble reading either of them while you struggle with both of them.

[WoodMan]

Thats what the text looks like on my machine too.  However, whats with all the dots???

[Igard]

ORIGINAL: WoodMan

Thats what the text looks like on my machine too.  However, whats with all the dots???

That's just a colour limitation of the gif image format. It doesn't affect the clarity of the text.

[Arboris]

I am using Windows XP and I have a 21.5 inch monitor that has a native resolution of 1920 x 1080.

I have a pair of reading glasses that I use at the computer.

I can see the bold font in both of our screenshots just fine. However I have to strain to see the non-bold text. -ZeroSum

-ZeroSum

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Aures

No problem Zero Sum, as you can probably guess from my response I have had my fair share of experience with stuff that is said innocently but can be taken the wrong way. Glad my feedback got to you before someone started unpacking the flame throwers.

It's the nature of the internet...much of what we type can be easily misconstrued due to lack of context or emotional queues for the reader.