Check your subs

[Speedysteve]

Hmm. Faber tried to open an old turn and this happened: "Just tried to reload old turn.....it asked me about the phwdex? change and the newer version change....but not the database changes...(as it had before)....which seemed to be applied"
 
Any thoughts anyone?

[Speedysteve]

Double post. Thanks Faber[;)]

[fabertong]

Double post. Thanks Speedy[;)]

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: fabertong

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Answer "No" when it asks you if you want to apply the database update. Comes right after you try to load your save.

Hi T. Just tried to reload old game........and was asked about the phwdex(sp) changes....and version number changes......but not the database changes.....as I was asked in the first time I patched......

What is my Penguin Pea-brain missing..

I have no idea why it works this way, but here is how I was able to back up (playing PBEM as Japanese)

1) Load old turn. Say yes to phwdex(I can't spell it either) and version number changes.
2) Watch combat
3) save game
4) end game
5) load saved game, when asked about database, say no. When asked about further prompting say no
6) proceed with orders

Game is now playing with new code and old database. Option to change database is available through "preferences" screen

[Speedysteve]

Thanks Pompack.
 
Faber - let me know how it goes.
 
Do I assume I (as Allies) have to follow this same procedure?

[castor troy]

ORIGINAL: Speedy

Thanks Pompack.

Faber - let me know how it goes.

Do I assume I (as Allies) have to follow this same procedure?

have you even been asked about it? I wasn´t but got messages about not being at the same patch as my opponent. [&:]

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: Speedy

Thanks Pompack.

Faber - let me know how it goes.

Do I assume I (as Allies) have to follow this same procedure?

When I play as Allies vs AI it asked me at load after the first two questions; however that save is "during" the Allied turn. I would think it would work the same way as Allied PBEM but if it doesn't the procedure above seems like it would work. It looks like the query is only triggered when you load a save from during a turn. I guess. Maybe. Perhaps. [:)]

[fabertong]

ORIGINAL: pompack

ORIGINAL: fabertong

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Answer "No" when it asks you if you want to apply the database update. Comes right after you try to load your save.

Hi T. Just tried to reload old game........and was asked about the phwdex(sp) changes....and version number changes......but not the database changes.....as I was asked in the first time I patched......

What is my Penguin Pea-brain missing..

I have no idea why it works this way, but here is how I was able to back up (playing PBEM as Japanese)

1) Load old turn. Say yes to phwdex(I can't spell it either) and version number changes.
2) Watch combat
3) save game
4) end game
5) load saved game, when asked about database, say no. When asked about further prompting say no
6) proceed with orders

Game is now playing with new code and old database. Option to change database is available through "preferences" screen

Thanks Pompack.....after I end the turn .....step five would be for Speedy.....yes?...Then me when turn is....well returned?

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: fabertong

ORIGINAL: pompack

ORIGINAL: fabertong



Hi T. Just tried to reload old game........and was asked about the phwdex(sp) changes....and version number changes......but not the database changes.....as I was asked in the first time I patched......

What is my Penguin Pea-brain missing..

I have no idea why it works this way, but here is how I was able to back up (playing PBEM as Japanese)

1) Load old turn. Say yes to phwdex(I can't spell it either) and version number changes.
2) Watch combat
3) save game
4) end game
5) load saved game, when asked about database, say no. When asked about further prompting say no
6) proceed with orders

Game is now playing with new code and old database. Option to change database is available through "preferences" screen

Thanks Pompack.....after I end the turn .....step five would be for Speedy.....yes?...Then me when turn is....well returned?

OK, team game. I was already confused with all the combinations but now we have permutations[:D] Or maybe it's permutations and combinations. I knew I should have paid more attention in class

Thinking ... [>:]

OK. Speedy is first, does the procedure, saves and sends it to you. So when you load it, the file should already have the internal flags that say no update, no prompt. So you shouldn't have to do anything. Now to check this, hit the preferences button in game and check to see if you have a yellow message at the bottom asking if you want to update the interface. If so, you're cool. If not then .... damfino. But logically, you should be cool. trust me. really.

[ADB123]

My opponent (playing the Japanese) and I have gone back two turns and he re-did the turn with the Patch, but he chose "No" for the Database update. When I opened the turn it asked me to accept the "phwhex" (or whatever) changes and I hit the "Yes" button. It then asked me to accept the "...6i" version and I hit the "Yes" button again.

But then it didn't ask me to update the Database. I am assuming that this is because my opponent chose "No" to the Database update.

I did the turn and checked things carefully. I couldn't find anything that looked wrong or different.

Of course, the problems last time turned up on the second turn after the Update, so I'll have to see what happens when I receive the next turn.

Stay tuned.

[Mike Solli]

[Mike Solli]

I figured it out. Thanks guys!

[Speedysteve]

Thanks. I can confirm the Japanese player in PBEM has to do all of these changes first and then send the turn on as per norm to the Allied Player. Of course you have to select an old turn prior to installing the patch and changes.

[cantona2]

ORIGINAL: cantona2

Ramon and I have applied patch and all my subs are A-OK!

Need to reassess this post. Turn after patch was applied a lot of subs had deck gun and AA gun damage. I guess this is fixable damage in port. As it is I can live with it if the damage is fixable in dry dock

[cantona2]

Any chance of a hotfix for this sub tubes problem?

[Smeulders]

ORIGINAL: cantona2

ORIGINAL: cantona2

Ramon and I have applied patch and all my subs are A-OK!

Need to reassess this post. Turn after patch was applied a lot of subs had deck gun and AA gun damage. I guess this is fixable damage in port. As it is I can live with it if the damage is fixable in dry dock

Anyone know if it is possible to repair this damage, or do we have to wait for the subs to upgrade ?

[Chris21wen]

That's really nerfed my AI game, screwed good and proper.   I'm goung to have to back track a good gtwo months.  I'm not a happy bunny.

[Chris21wen]

OK I found one in a zip that only three weeks behind. Still very very annoyed that an Official release has this kind of problem.

Not sure when the new database would come into effect during a game turn, i would assume immediately so I tried the upgrade to the database again, checking the subs immediately atnd they were fine. Ran the turn once and checked again and they were not. I have resorted to not updating the database patch to my three week old game and I recommend nobody does until sorted.

[pompack]

ORIGINAL: Chris H

OK I found one in a zip that only three weeks behind. Still very very annoyed that an Official release has this kind of problem.

Not sure when the new database would come into effect during a game turn, i would assume immediately so I tried the upgrade to the database again, checking the subs immediately atnd they were fine. Ran the turn once and checked again and they were not. I have resorted to not updating the database patch to my three week old game and I recommend nobody does until sorted.

Actually I always understood that it was good practice to NEVER update the database of an on-going game. The feature was added (back in the WitP days IIRC) because so many people complained that they wanted to capture the updates in an on-going game, even if the devs advised against it. With that said I do have to admit that I have always tried to update each time it was an option and that I had to revert each time as well.

[Smeulders]

Well, only subs seem to be a problem, so they were pretty close to getting it to work this time.