You know the drill, Data. [:)]
I got the original PC CD Deus Ex as christmas present from my parents in the year 2000. Still the best present I've got in my life. I thank my parents every time I play it.
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Nothing is impossible, not if you can imagine it!
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
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Not sure if they thank each other for doing it though [:)]
But if you managed to get a social life regardless than all is ok.
But if you managed to get a social life regardless than all is ok.
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They trust my knowledge in things conserning gaming as I respect their experience in their jobs. Also, I've always been lone wolf type of person. Being alone long times doesn't bother me much and I actually enjoy it in some degree.
Damn, s**t is getting real. Better get back to the topic.
Damn, s**t is getting real. Better get back to the topic.
Nothing is impossible, not if you can imagine it!
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
RE: games and RPing
Hmm Deus Ex and Dues Ex Invisible War...available for DL at Gamestop for $20 each...
And yes, it IS all your fault Data! [:-]
And yes, it IS all your fault Data! [:-]
Distant Worlds Fan
'When in doubt...attack!'
'When in doubt...attack!'
RE: games and RPing
I remember loving Deus Ex.
I remember buying and playing Invisible War. Strange that I can't remember much else about that one...
I remember buying and playing Invisible War. Strange that I can't remember much else about that one...
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Glad to hear of it, Shark ....old loves never die [:)]
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Lord_Astraios
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Nice games you mentioned there plus mods for them makes them more entertaining.
There's Parkan 2, is actually fun to some point, you get to board ships, kill the crew and steal the cargo and the ship will self destruct after you kill everyone, land on planets and stations then do your stuff, colonize a planet, if your ship gets attacked and boarded you need to get off the chair and defend your ship, and do mission on the side, attack ships
the bad part is when your in the middle of the campaing and doing a lot of stuff, you will blow up a fuse because of seeing a lot of robots. and no humans, seriously, in the story, your fighting this guy in the start but when you get in to your ship something happens, your ship ends up in a sector of the galaxy filled with a civilization of robots and you're the only human in it. No variety on who you meet.
There's Parkan 2, is actually fun to some point, you get to board ships, kill the crew and steal the cargo and the ship will self destruct after you kill everyone, land on planets and stations then do your stuff, colonize a planet, if your ship gets attacked and boarded you need to get off the chair and defend your ship, and do mission on the side, attack ships
the bad part is when your in the middle of the campaing and doing a lot of stuff, you will blow up a fuse because of seeing a lot of robots. and no humans, seriously, in the story, your fighting this guy in the start but when you get in to your ship something happens, your ship ends up in a sector of the galaxy filled with a civilization of robots and you're the only human in it. No variety on who you meet.
*That* is the exploration that awaits you. Not mapping stars and studying nebulae, but charting the unknown possibilities of existence.
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Oo yes, I got my fix from Parkan 2 for a while but as you say it becomes really tedious after a while. Still, I know of no recent game other than this that implemented the first person exploring a ship and planetary surfaces thingy
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One fairly recent one that hasn't been mentioned here is Jade Empire. Played it on the Xbox myself. It's been the only RPG I've ever gone back and played again. I really got into the storyline and setting in that one.
And how can no one have mentioned Wing Commander yet? One of the best game series ever... [:)]
And how can no one have mentioned Wing Commander yet? One of the best game series ever... [:)]
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ORIGINAL: Data
Glad to hear of it, Shark ....old loves never die [:)]
And there is a new Deus Ex coming out in July (IIRC). So now I'm really getting itchy to replay the first 2...and I may go for PC versions this time around.
Distant Worlds Fan
'When in doubt...attack!'
'When in doubt...attack!'
RE: games and RPing
Yo, I'm surprised nobody mentioned this, it has most of the wishes people mentioned around here(getting out of your ship with a crew and walking around on a random spot on a random planet, driving in an apc from your cargo hold on the said planet, leaving the bridge and flying around with your own fighter, stealing other people's vehicles and using the enemy's tanks to destroy his own base, simulated boarding battles on your very own ship(tell those engineers to stay in the engineering when intruders try to sabotage the ship or prisoners escape after damage to the detention bay), has an interesting campaign or you can just roam through the galaxy trading/shooting/capturing enemy bases/or just plainly exploring every planet, even gas giants if your shields can handle the HUGE pressure) , and, most important of all, IT'S TOTALLY FREE:
http://www.3000ad.com/games/universal-combat/
http://www.3000ad.com/download/
Called Universal Combat, it's a niche kind of game that started with the old Battlecruiser 3000AD, also free and around that very site. You can pretty much command your ship any way you want, and send every single one of your crew members to do anything you want them to(well, within the limits of their capabilities, sending an engineer with a handgun in the middle of the enemy base will only get him killed, he's no Scotty[:D]; however beaming down with your elite marine squad to take out the enemy air defenses while you instruct your fighters to launch ground strikes and your shuttles to drop the heavy tanks is a very nice way to have fun....if you don't get yourself killed in the process....which can be avoided if once you beam down you get inside the nearest enemy tank and start blasting their own to pieces....before getting back to your ship in the nearest shuttle/stolen enemy shuttle and launching a nuclear strike on the other enemy base on the dark side of the planet....after which you decide you need a base of operations and disable the orbital space station, board it, and take it over in the name of your government....then doing a spacewalk on the punctured hull of your ship in your EVA suit, watching the sunrise as your orbital path takes your to the light side of the planet, waiting for your surviving engineers to finally fix those blasted engines so you can get to the nearby moon and pick up the mining drones you left there before the battle so you can use the minerals to fix the power systems so you can power the subspace drive and jump back to earth for a quick repair at a cheap price.....totally forgetting about the 10 enemy intruders rampaging across the ship, fighting around the shuttle bay with the few marines you have left and trying to shoot those medics trying to heal your crew and engineers doing their business....all oblivious in the emergency to the fact the the primary life support is down and they will all suffocate in a few hours, unless they get to the sections where secondary life support is still functional....everyone totally not noticing the enemy carrier and escorts inbound for your ship, because the sensors got damaged in the last attack and all you can see is the big space station you just captured 2 clicks from your ship firing it's HUGE laser cannons and blasting the carrier&company as they barely get out of hyperspace.
Well, that's a small presentation of what you can do in that game. I played it myself and I love it. It's very complex and has a steep learning curve, but it's awesome once you get the hang of it. The campaign was much more diverse for its predecessor, Battlecruiser Millenium Gold, but then again, that's not the highpoint of the game. If you can do the campaign you're an ace anyway. You can play the game at your own pace, might get frustrated because things happen in REAL TIME, so if your engineer says that fixing the engines will take 7 hours, then you'll just have to float around for 7 hours. Fortunately, I learned how to fix that with a couple of codes input at the shortcut window, which give you the ability to accelerate time and play the game much more relaxed. I'll tell them once I can find them.
Also, forgot to mention that your crew is LIVING, as they actually have to go to sleep and eat, and get medical care, and can get infected if you keep sending them to weird jungle planets or get irradiated if near big explosions or toxic environments. They also LEARN, and get better at their job, especially your bridge crew and pilots, if they live long enough of course. You can also do research in your research lab if you play a military career with a ship that has one, and there are a number of cool artifacts that you can find in the universe and your research engineer can figure out once she's smart enough, even a PLANET BUSTING weapon that just turns any planet you shoot it at into a flaming rock of lava, and gets your courtmartialed, hunted down and executed if you're into the terran military. You can also command fleets and space stations once you have a high enough rank, which is awesome since help is scarce to come by in the hostile quadrants of the galaxy, and it gives another reason to capture space stations, since any ships that were still docked when you capture them, come under the custody of your factions and thus, you.
I have a couple of saves in which I have a pretty good situation if you want them.
Cheers
http://www.3000ad.com/games/universal-combat/
http://www.3000ad.com/download/
Called Universal Combat, it's a niche kind of game that started with the old Battlecruiser 3000AD, also free and around that very site. You can pretty much command your ship any way you want, and send every single one of your crew members to do anything you want them to(well, within the limits of their capabilities, sending an engineer with a handgun in the middle of the enemy base will only get him killed, he's no Scotty[:D]; however beaming down with your elite marine squad to take out the enemy air defenses while you instruct your fighters to launch ground strikes and your shuttles to drop the heavy tanks is a very nice way to have fun....if you don't get yourself killed in the process....which can be avoided if once you beam down you get inside the nearest enemy tank and start blasting their own to pieces....before getting back to your ship in the nearest shuttle/stolen enemy shuttle and launching a nuclear strike on the other enemy base on the dark side of the planet....after which you decide you need a base of operations and disable the orbital space station, board it, and take it over in the name of your government....then doing a spacewalk on the punctured hull of your ship in your EVA suit, watching the sunrise as your orbital path takes your to the light side of the planet, waiting for your surviving engineers to finally fix those blasted engines so you can get to the nearby moon and pick up the mining drones you left there before the battle so you can use the minerals to fix the power systems so you can power the subspace drive and jump back to earth for a quick repair at a cheap price.....totally forgetting about the 10 enemy intruders rampaging across the ship, fighting around the shuttle bay with the few marines you have left and trying to shoot those medics trying to heal your crew and engineers doing their business....all oblivious in the emergency to the fact the the primary life support is down and they will all suffocate in a few hours, unless they get to the sections where secondary life support is still functional....everyone totally not noticing the enemy carrier and escorts inbound for your ship, because the sensors got damaged in the last attack and all you can see is the big space station you just captured 2 clicks from your ship firing it's HUGE laser cannons and blasting the carrier&company as they barely get out of hyperspace.
Well, that's a small presentation of what you can do in that game. I played it myself and I love it. It's very complex and has a steep learning curve, but it's awesome once you get the hang of it. The campaign was much more diverse for its predecessor, Battlecruiser Millenium Gold, but then again, that's not the highpoint of the game. If you can do the campaign you're an ace anyway. You can play the game at your own pace, might get frustrated because things happen in REAL TIME, so if your engineer says that fixing the engines will take 7 hours, then you'll just have to float around for 7 hours. Fortunately, I learned how to fix that with a couple of codes input at the shortcut window, which give you the ability to accelerate time and play the game much more relaxed. I'll tell them once I can find them.
Also, forgot to mention that your crew is LIVING, as they actually have to go to sleep and eat, and get medical care, and can get infected if you keep sending them to weird jungle planets or get irradiated if near big explosions or toxic environments. They also LEARN, and get better at their job, especially your bridge crew and pilots, if they live long enough of course. You can also do research in your research lab if you play a military career with a ship that has one, and there are a number of cool artifacts that you can find in the universe and your research engineer can figure out once she's smart enough, even a PLANET BUSTING weapon that just turns any planet you shoot it at into a flaming rock of lava, and gets your courtmartialed, hunted down and executed if you're into the terran military. You can also command fleets and space stations once you have a high enough rank, which is awesome since help is scarce to come by in the hostile quadrants of the galaxy, and it gives another reason to capture space stations, since any ships that were still docked when you capture them, come under the custody of your factions and thus, you.
I have a couple of saves in which I have a pretty good situation if you want them.
Cheers
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Love Jade Empire also. Have the PC special edition. One of my all-time favs. Should play it through again sometime.ORIGINAL: MartialDoctor
One fairly recent one that hasn't been mentioned here is Jade Empire. Played it on the Xbox myself. It's been the only RPG I've ever gone back and played again. I really got into the storyline and setting in that one.
EDIT: Oh, and "Just Kill the Golem Already, would you?" cracks me up every time.
I'm really excited about the human revolution. Slightly worried, but from what I've seen from vids, pics and stuff it just can't be bad. It may end up being only good or great, not excellent classic like the original. But bad? Nuh uh!ORIGINAL: Shark7
And there is a new Deus Ex coming out in July (IIRC). So now I'm really getting itchy to replay the first 2...and I may go for PC versions this time around.
More quality cyperpunk is always good.
Nothing is impossible, not if you can imagine it!
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
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Another cool RPG that integrates a lot of elements and has an extraordinary and huge storyline and gigantic variety is Planet's edge. Though old, it's free and I used Dos Box emulator to play it. It's awesome once you get into the story and learn to handle the team.
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/651/Planets+Edge.html
Oh, and this, though very complex, but incredibly detailed and cool story:
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/851/M ... ients.html
And let's not forget this:
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/428/Albion.html
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/651/Planets+Edge.html
Oh, and this, though very complex, but incredibly detailed and cool story:
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/851/M ... ients.html
And let's not forget this:
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/428/Albion.html
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Merker, you're my favourite enabler...me wants it all, saves included [&o]
I've stumbled upon batlecruiser 3000 in my searches but dismissed it as I'd like more exploration and less fighting. Maybe I was too quick to dismiss it.
I've stumbled upon batlecruiser 3000 in my searches but dismissed it as I'd like more exploration and less fighting. Maybe I was too quick to dismiss it.
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The more I read on these suggestions of yours the more I ask myself two questions:
1) How can we find all these great features mostly in old games?
2) Where the heck were you all my life? And this should not be taken in a romantic way [:D]
Btw, this abandonia is like gog? Great stuff.
1) How can we find all these great features mostly in old games?
2) Where the heck were you all my life? And this should not be taken in a romantic way [:D]
Btw, this abandonia is like gog? Great stuff.
...Igniting stellar cores....Recharging reactors...Recalibrating hyperdrives....
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Oh, you can explore in Universal combat, even have a career as an explorer, though the ship they give you is L.A.M.E., you're better off as a military dude that deserts his post. My personal favorite is getting into a shuttle with an APC, landing on some exotic planet and just driving around. The game also features rudimentary trees and animals, but it can be fun even with those. And you can also swim if you like, and use boats and stuff.
Also, if you just feel like directing everything from afar, you can use probes and send them explore for you. Pretty fast little buggers, you can monitor everything in their region of space from afar using the extremely useful tool called TACOPS computer, which is you basic RTS interface, you can pause time, give orders, set waypoints, access all other computers(like tactical for personnel distribution, equipment management and stuff, logistics for repairs, cargo and power distribution and other stuff I can't recall at the moment), switch to orbital view if you have a planet in the region or have a probe in the atmosphere of one. The probe feature was one of my most strong desires since battlecruiser 3000AD, in which they didn't work. Now you can use them to explore or give orders to my fleet on the other side of the galaxy, though with one of the artifacts called Hyperion Subspace Device you can just pop around anywhere you want in seconds. If you launch the probe in the planet's atmosphere it also gives you atmospheric info I think, as well as allowing you to monitor the region. There are also a couple of secret locations that are hard to get to and present the mystery of the series from the very first game.
PS: you can also get lost in some sort of subspace called null space if your hyperdrive acts up. The only way to get back is to call for a tow from HQ or use the Hyperion device.
It also has multiplayer, but I've yet to manage to find someone to play with. The free version doesn't have it, but I have the full version and I can send you the MP part.
But I start rambling again. First download the game, then tell me a way how to send you the stuff.
Also, if you just feel like directing everything from afar, you can use probes and send them explore for you. Pretty fast little buggers, you can monitor everything in their region of space from afar using the extremely useful tool called TACOPS computer, which is you basic RTS interface, you can pause time, give orders, set waypoints, access all other computers(like tactical for personnel distribution, equipment management and stuff, logistics for repairs, cargo and power distribution and other stuff I can't recall at the moment), switch to orbital view if you have a planet in the region or have a probe in the atmosphere of one. The probe feature was one of my most strong desires since battlecruiser 3000AD, in which they didn't work. Now you can use them to explore or give orders to my fleet on the other side of the galaxy, though with one of the artifacts called Hyperion Subspace Device you can just pop around anywhere you want in seconds. If you launch the probe in the planet's atmosphere it also gives you atmospheric info I think, as well as allowing you to monitor the region. There are also a couple of secret locations that are hard to get to and present the mystery of the series from the very first game.
PS: you can also get lost in some sort of subspace called null space if your hyperdrive acts up. The only way to get back is to call for a tow from HQ or use the Hyperion device.
It also has multiplayer, but I've yet to manage to find someone to play with. The free version doesn't have it, but I have the full version and I can send you the MP part.
But I start rambling again. First download the game, then tell me a way how to send you the stuff.
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Will do, thanks again....lots of presents to open now so I'll take my time with each and everyone of them.
I'm going now, I'll be back in a month or so [:D]
I'm going now, I'll be back in a month or so [:D]
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Answer to questions:
1) Developers of the old games seem to have paid much more attention to story and development of the gameplay. Nowadays, all I hear are "rushed to meet some silly release date they announced to craze the fans" or "they paid more attention to multiplayer than to the story" or "they wanted to enhance the gameplay in general, not the story". The games have become way too superficial, and all just for the money, especially the big companies, it seems. Short, expensive and possibly followed by a few quick and short expansions which cost much more money and which contain features that should have been in the original game. Take dragon age 2 as example. I've watched the Toegoff let's play of it and it turned out less than half the length of Origins, lots of repetitive environments and repetitive, unnecessarily bloody and senseless combat(not that combat in games has much sense, but come on, even Mass Effect 2 had more meaning to the battles, at least I loved the characters and the final mission was how the entire game should have been but it made me feel really good after finishing it, also, same length as ME1 for me at least, 42hrs)
2) I've rarely posted on forums this much, until my new passion with making AAR equivalents for space games like X3 and DW.
3) I don't really know about Good old Games(that's gog I presume), but abandonia has helped me find some great old fun. And no viruses or illegal stuff either.
Oh yeah, and another, I LOVED this, this is how space games should emulate space, even REALISTIC newtoninan physics and orbits, the first game to have seamless transitions between space and planet surface:
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/709/F ... nters.html
with help file: http://www.jades.org/ffefaq2.htm
http://www.jades.org/download.htm
patchy stuff: http://www.oocities.org/wowzer_nz/patch.htm
Oh, and the manual for mega traveler 2: http://www.freegameempire.com/games/Meg ... r-2/manual
Cheers
1) Developers of the old games seem to have paid much more attention to story and development of the gameplay. Nowadays, all I hear are "rushed to meet some silly release date they announced to craze the fans" or "they paid more attention to multiplayer than to the story" or "they wanted to enhance the gameplay in general, not the story". The games have become way too superficial, and all just for the money, especially the big companies, it seems. Short, expensive and possibly followed by a few quick and short expansions which cost much more money and which contain features that should have been in the original game. Take dragon age 2 as example. I've watched the Toegoff let's play of it and it turned out less than half the length of Origins, lots of repetitive environments and repetitive, unnecessarily bloody and senseless combat(not that combat in games has much sense, but come on, even Mass Effect 2 had more meaning to the battles, at least I loved the characters and the final mission was how the entire game should have been but it made me feel really good after finishing it, also, same length as ME1 for me at least, 42hrs)
2) I've rarely posted on forums this much, until my new passion with making AAR equivalents for space games like X3 and DW.
3) I don't really know about Good old Games(that's gog I presume), but abandonia has helped me find some great old fun. And no viruses or illegal stuff either.
Oh yeah, and another, I LOVED this, this is how space games should emulate space, even REALISTIC newtoninan physics and orbits, the first game to have seamless transitions between space and planet surface:
http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/709/F ... nters.html
with help file: http://www.jades.org/ffefaq2.htm
http://www.jades.org/download.htm
patchy stuff: http://www.oocities.org/wowzer_nz/patch.htm
Oh, and the manual for mega traveler 2: http://www.freegameempire.com/games/Meg ... r-2/manual
Cheers
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Looks interesting but I have principle regarding "large" games: It must be fairly easy to learn and fairly hard to master. Good examples here would be the classics DW, MoO and SR2. After I tried Ad Astra I've been very careful around games that sound too good to be true.
Still, props for you guys if you can enjoy these games.
Still, props for you guys if you can enjoy these games.
Nothing is impossible, not if you can imagine it!
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
"And they hurled themselves into the void of space with no fear."
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If anyone wants to know, there's an upcoming game that's driving me quite mad waiting for.
It's Elite IV by David Braben and Frontier Developments. They've teased us with the prospect of a release for about 15 years now. Still not sure if it's even going to happen.[:(]
It's Elite IV by David Braben and Frontier Developments. They've teased us with the prospect of a release for about 15 years now. Still not sure if it's even going to happen.[:(]