What is wrong with Urumchi?

[viberpol]

ORIGINAL: michaelm

I don't think any base is supplying oil to Urumchi.
The only time I got some to move was when the supply at its lowest; which is random. Something like every 7 days, the path could get to a minimum, but it seemed to be a low chance.
Originally the minimum path did not include any of the coastal bases, which meant that the excess needed to go to a land base.
I'll have another look at this as it was sometime back.

A picture describing the resources history at Urumchi some +/- 100 turns later.

The Tracker always delivers "oil storage max" message... but maybe the excess still is produced and moved? Can't really say...[&:]
What's interesting -- it's the fuel that is reported as spoiled (so it's not moved), not oil.

ORIGINAL: michaelm
I don't think any base is supplying oil to Urumchi.

I just thought that the nice feature you added allowing to "stock" different material created a small "push" to transfer some.
So I figured that if I set oil to stack at Hami, which is 7 hexes away from Urumchi, the oil would slowly begin to flow down to the coast... but it doesn't seem flowing [;)]

ORIGINAL: michaelm
As I said, it needs to some thought as it is no good to fix this one isolated base by breaking the normal flow of materials.

Right. Again, Urumchi is not a big deal if the change was to affect the whole system in a bad way.

[Andrew Brown]

ORIGINAL: ChickenOfTheSea

Historically, the oil at Urumqi was refined for use in regional industry and to refuel trucks moving supplies along the silk road. It is almost 1200 miles along the silk road from Urumqi to Lanzhou. No rail connection existed until 1966 and a pipeline was not completed until 2006. A further complication was that the area around Urumqi was under the control of local warlords with closer relations with the Soviets than to either Chiang or Mao.

Thus, in real world terms, the oil at Urumqi was not available to fuel industry in China. I know it is frustrating to see that oil go unused, but the treatment seems historically accurate. I think Andrew Brown has said that it was intended to be this way in setting up the map.

I'm not aware of any oil being delivered from Urumchi to the rest of China during the war. My understanding (which is not great as I have not seen a lot of source material for this) is that much of any oil that was actually produced at Urumchi was creamed off by the Soviets. In the old WitP CHS scenario I even made Urumchi a Soviet base, because they had a major presence in that part of China at the time. Maybe it would have been less confusing to not put any oil there in the first place, but it is safe just to ignore it.

Andrew

[CaptDave]

Andrew, if you'd left the oil out then someone would complain about a major oil center -- useless as it is -- being missing.  You can't win!

[Skyros]

Perhaps the production is to high.

Inhabitants of the Junggar basin have known and utilized its numerous oil and asphalt seeps and its spectacular spreads of asphalt for more than 2000 years, especially in the Karamay-Urho thrust belt near the northwestern rim. The first discovery of oil in the modern sense came at Dushanzi, one of the steeply folded anticlines of theÜrümqi foredeep near the southern rim. The first shallow oil in the Karamay-Urho thrust belt came in 1937, followed by commercial production in the Karamay field in 1955. Output continued to be modest until wells were drilled through local thrusts and reverse faults in the early 1980s. By 1985, cumulative production

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