
Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
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RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
Turn 4 - end
So far none of us wants to compromise his strategy, so game gets more and more weird.
Still no chances for decent pockets, so I punch holes and burst forward.
Mighty 7th pz div still in good shape.

So far none of us wants to compromise his strategy, so game gets more and more weird.
Still no chances for decent pockets, so I punch holes and burst forward.
Mighty 7th pz div still in good shape.

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RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
Yes of course SU attachments. I usually put the Flametanks with the SS to give them a little kick.
RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
Wow. That is a great open and advance. You have really improved a lot in leaps and bounds Kamil from each AAR I have seen you post. Not only over the river in the south, but in the north as well and putting good pressure towards Leningrad. Just have to be somewhat careful that you don't get your guys cut off and certainly go to pin his industry by either cutting his rail lines or wiping it out.
RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
Definitely much improved...his C&C is way better and he's grasped the concept of wide and deep panzer thrusts to unhinge the defense.
"Measure civilization by the ability of citizens to mock government with impunity" -- Unknown
RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
real nice
a little advice toward garrisnning city
this can create a lot of partisan (playing against Majeloz turn 30 actually +110)
a little advice toward garrisnning city
this can create a lot of partisan (playing against Majeloz turn 30 actually +110)
RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
Thanks Kamil for this excellent initiative.
As Ketza mentioned... Kamil first turn was definitely devastating [&o] and it made me try and avoid any other encirclement!
Also, I am a great fan of Napoleon's Russian campaign (1812)... and I am more a Barclay de Tolly than a Bagration... rather lose Smolensk and Moscow than have the Army destroyed. I think that 3 times, the Scythian strategy saved Russia while they didn't chose to conduct it (Poltava - 1812 - 1941).
Well, that doesn't mean that you will thrust forwards so easily until mud comes... As Kutuzov, I might feel that I have to defend Moscow
As Ketza mentioned... Kamil first turn was definitely devastating [&o] and it made me try and avoid any other encirclement!
Also, I am a great fan of Napoleon's Russian campaign (1812)... and I am more a Barclay de Tolly than a Bagration... rather lose Smolensk and Moscow than have the Army destroyed. I think that 3 times, the Scythian strategy saved Russia while they didn't chose to conduct it (Poltava - 1812 - 1941).
Well, that doesn't mean that you will thrust forwards so easily until mud comes... As Kutuzov, I might feel that I have to defend Moscow
yeti
RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
My progress is so fast because Stephane gave me no other choice.
My problem is, that the longer he refuses to fight the better position he will be in. Soviet losses are extremely low, especially in tanks.
I feel I could have destroyed more units but I can't help myself when I see wast areas I can convert.
In post HQ buildup reality Stephane strategy seems to be really efficient. Before limiting it to 20MP he wouldn't be able to employ his strategy unpunished. I am not saying he would be loosing, because for sure Stephane would be using different defensive methods. What I am trying to say is that before introducing buildup limits that way of defending wouldn't be possible.
Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, I am just expressing my opinion about impact of recent rules change.
My problem is, that the longer he refuses to fight the better position he will be in. Soviet losses are extremely low, especially in tanks.
I feel I could have destroyed more units but I can't help myself when I see wast areas I can convert.
In post HQ buildup reality Stephane strategy seems to be really efficient. Before limiting it to 20MP he wouldn't be able to employ his strategy unpunished. I am not saying he would be loosing, because for sure Stephane would be using different defensive methods. What I am trying to say is that before introducing buildup limits that way of defending wouldn't be possible.
Don't get me wrong, I am not complaining, I am just expressing my opinion about impact of recent rules change.
Kamil
RE: Will I do it right this time? (GC 41 - Stephane (sov) vs Kamil (ger))
Turn 5 - start
Not much can be said about Soviet movement apart from well known phrase - Stephane refuses to fight.

Not much can be said about Soviet movement apart from well known phrase - Stephane refuses to fight.

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