Soviet Unit Creation List

[Seminole]

It's Feb '42 and I've created 9 Light Howitzer Brigades to soak up some of my spare 2000+ 122mm tubes.
My plan is to use at least these (540 tubes) to start bleeding the Finns, and I'm considering building another 9 brigades of same for use north of Ladoga as well. My question is, can these be combined into Artillery Divisions in Oct '42, or is the 'proper' course to disband them then construct the divisions pulling these same tubes from the pool?

[Flaviusx]

Artillery divisions must be built from scratch, you can't combine arty brigades into them.

[2ndACR]

Why can't Germany have a list like this? Would love to be able to actually build some support units.

[CheerfullyInsane]

ORIGINAL: Seminole

Also if you combine three guard rifle divisions you automatically get guard rifle corps. If you combine two rifle brigades with guard status you get guard rifle division.

You can combine two guards divisions with a regular brigade or division and get a guards rifle corps.  This means with 12 guards IDs you can make 6 guards corps instead of 4.  I can see no reason to ever use 3 guards divisions to make a rifle corps.
Not sure how much manpower difference difference their is in the TOE (combining 2 ID + 1 Bde instead of 3 ID), but I wanted to keep as many divisions on the map as I could.

Do the guards unit limits go stictly off map counters, or is there some kind of manpower consideration?  It seems like combining 2 guards ID + 1 Bde gives me room to promote another unit to guards status.

That's what I do too....Why use 3 Guards units when 2 can do the trick?
Presumably a 2 div/1 brig combo will require more replacements to reach full Corps TOE, but the way I see it is that the Corps will need to spend some time behind the lines retraining (experience plummets when combining) so they can restock on bodies while training.
To me, the biggest hurdle as the Soviet is the AP limit, never near enough for what needs doing especially during The Great Reorganization in ´42-´43.
So if I can use a brigade-unit that I can't use for anything else anyway, instead of using a division-counter which I'll have to spend APs to recreate, that's a no-brainer.

[Vorsteher]

Is there a new support unit ? A engineer sapper brigade 41?

[Omat]

ORIGINAL: Vorsteher

Is there a new support unit ? A engineer sapper brigade 41?

Hello

Yes

Made the following changes in the TOE(OB) data base relating to Soviet Sappers:


• TOE(OB) 43 Assault Engineer-Sapper Brigade (446) revised to eliminate 12 Sapper Squads with flamethrowers and replace with 10 Rifle Squads, increased Support and brigade upgrades to 44 Assault Engineer-Sapper Brigade (486) in 5/44;
• Added TOE(OB) 44 Assault Engineer-Sapper Brigade (486) with addition of 24 Flamethrower Squads (240 FLAMETHROWERS!) and 9 anti-tank rifles;
• Added TOE(OB) 41 Engineer-Sapper Brigade (499) as Construction type support unit which upgrades (actually gets smaller) to 43 Engineer-Sapper Brigade (500) in 6/43.

Hope it helps...

Omat

[Vorsteher]

Engineer-Sapper Brigade

Ah , jetzt sehe ich es Beta : V1.05.53 – January 4, 2012.

Thanks

[randallw]

Are you saying a flamethrower squad has 10 flamethrowers? I think it's just one flamethrower per squad.

[jaw]

ORIGINAL: randallw

Are you saying a flamethrower squad has 10 flamethrowers? I think it's just one flamethrower per squad.

You are confusing the flamethrower squad with the pre-war sapper squad. The Flamethrower squad is exactly what it says a squad composed entirely of men equipped with flamethrowers.

[Mogmark]

Did the Guards Rifle Division Apr-42 6 change to Mar-42?

In my game against the AI it allowed me to create them the first turn of March 42 using the Airborne Brigades.

[Timotheus]

And this is not stickied up top WHY?

[Mehring]

ORIGINAL: Flaviusx

Joel, I'm pretty sure players can't make mountain corps at any point in the game. (Which is somewhat odd because some of the later scenarios do begin with on map mountain corps.)

That wouldn't be the only odd thing in the appearance and creation (or not) of units and unit types. Apart from scores of HQs that appear in post June 1941 scenarios there is, for example, even a Russian air base -TYPE- that shows up in 1942 but never appears in the full campaign.