Grond combat modifiers

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: Kwik E Mart

ORIGINAL: beppi

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

Ground combat at 85,51 (near Minas Tirith)

Sauron Deliberate attack

Attacking force 44491 troops, 284 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1512

Defending force 9785 troops, 195 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 276

Sardaukar adjusted assault: 984

Gondor adjusted defense: 907

Allied assault odds: 1 to 1

Combat modifiers
Defender:
Attacker: Grond(+)

Sauron ground losses:
1358 casualties reported
Squads: 41 destroyed, 58 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 7 disabled
Engineers: 7 destroyed, 14 disabled
Guns lost 40 (3 destroyed, 37 disabled)


Gondor ground losses:
360 casualties reported
Squads: 2 destroyed, 36 disabled
Non Combat: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled
Engineers: 0 destroyed, 3 disabled


Assaulting units:
8th Orkish Corps
53rd Orkish Corps
18th Orkish Corps
73rd Orkish Corps
20th Group Army
4th Heavy Grond Regiment

Defending units:
3rd Gondor Guards
58th Gondor Guards
13th Elb. Bowman Brigade
12th Elb. Bowman Brigade
6th Dwarv Division
1st Hobbit Brigade

Clearly a fake. Impossible that the attackers with a Grond(+) take more losses than the defender !!!! [:D]

this game is borked!!! orcs ALWAYS shock attack!

They were at Low Power. And it was a Tuesday. [:)]

[wdolson]

ORIGINAL: wdolson
If more than 1/2 of the stack fails, on average, both fail rolls, you get Leaders(-).  If more than 1/2, on average, pass, you get Leaders(+).  On top of that, fog of war is thrown into the mix.

ORIGINAL: gradenko_2000
When you say fog of war is thrown into the mix, does that mean that if you're the Allied player, you might see the Japanese get a modifier when they really didn't, or even both sides have unreliable reports?

I only ask because I've seen results where the Japanese Ai gets both a (+) and a (-) modifier at the same time. What do I conclude from that? Only one of them could have been 'true', right?

Went back to the code again. You can get both + and - because there are conditions which can lower the AV due to a leadership check failing and others that raise it due to a pass. There are some rare conditions where both can happen, though it's usually one of the other or neither.

I did notice a bug in the way this information is displayed which means you see the leadership +/- less often than you should.

Most of the time when you get leadership + and -, it's probably due to fog of war and it happens to both sides, I believe even your own.

Bill

[Nemo121]

Gentlemen,

These are NOT the Combat Reports you are looking for. Move along now!!!