Map of the Near East

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:05 am

Israeli setup B - Southern Israel

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:07 am

Israel setup C - Southern Israel and Sinai area

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:08 am

Israel setup D - Shows Israeli fighters in Southern Israel

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:10 am

Israeli setup - E Showing Israeli A-4 Fighter bombers in Southern Israel

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:17 am

The Israeli OOB is as follows:

20 Armoured Brigades
9 Infantry Brigades
9 Mechanized Brigades
5 Static Brigades in the Sinai
1 Mechanized Para Brigade
8 Fighter Squadrons
2 Fighter Bomber Squadrons
1 Level Bomber Squadron
1 Naval unit in the Mediterranean sea area
1 Naval Unit in the Red Sea Area
1 Naval Transport Group in the Med
1 Naval Transport Group in the Red Sea
6 Air-Defense Brigades

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:25 am

I now have two versions of this scenario. the first one is the map with regime flags and the SFT's are finished but no units on the map.  This version will be sent to those who are interested and then make whatever changes you want. Maybe even possibly uploaded to the scenario site.  The second one is the one with the new screenshots and one that I'm going to have some detail ( event programming) added into so this one will eventually be loaded onto the scenario site for sure, see I changed my mind.....

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:55 am

Palestinian-(Jordanian) setup: was used from the book " Elusive Victory" six day war section.

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:56 am

Syrian setup: Syrian army OOB was used from the book " Elusive Victory" Six day war section.

Keunert · Post by **Keunert** » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:03 am

i have to correct my statement. this doesn't look good, it is looking great. can you tell something about the campaign?

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:48 am

Keunert
it started out to be a semi-modern one, but took a turn to major hypothetical. It takes place after the Six Day war with several major upheavals and changes, so around 1969-70. Jordan has now become Palestine ( large Palestinian population was victorious in the Black September revolt which takes place earlier than historically happened. ( which historically the King of Jordan was able to put down pretty much on the scale that we are seeing in Syria today). For the Israeli's they embark on " Greater Israel" from the Nile to the Euphrates rivers to end once and for the Arab/Israeli war. Doing this can have sorts of unexpected issues and consequences.....

I guess you can say this is a updated version of " Rise of Babylon" which I was working on for the AT, but stopped since ATG came out. Down the road I want the Israeli's to be able to upgrade units to modern day which we see today, but for now the latest tank the Israeli's can get is the M-60 MBT. The same plan goes for the Arabs as well.

british exil · Post by **british exil** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:05 pm

I must admit, that sometimes I am a bit reluctant to play or download a scenario with so many units. I prefer to start with a few units and then build up.

Would it be possible to design a scenario where units are frozen at the start but unfreeze as the game moves on?

But keep the good work up, it does make AT/ATG the best game I've ever played.

Mat

Magpius · Post by **Magpius** » Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:24 pm

Lion...
Have you played Schwerpunkt's Middle East War.
You would be interested in the scenario list and the OOB's perhaps...

[font="times new roman"]Israeli Scenarios:
[/font][blockquote][font="times new roman"] 1. Israeli War of Independence, to 1st Truce, 1948[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 2. Israeli War of Independence, to 2nd Truce, 1948[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 3. Israeli War of Independence, to Armistice, 1948-49[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 4. Sinai Campaign 1956[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 5. Six Day War 1967[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 6. Yom Kippur War 1973 - Sinai[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 7. Yom Kippur War 1973 - Golan[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 8. Yom Kippur War 1973[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 9. Israeli War with Lebanon 1982 [/font]
[font="times new roman"][/font][/blockquote][font="times new roman"]
Iran - Iraq War Scenarios:
[/font][blockquote][font="times new roman"] 10. Iraq Invades Sep 1980[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 11. Susangerd Jan 1981[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 12. Abadan Sep 1981[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 13. Operation Jerusalem Way Nov 1981[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 14. Operation Undeniable Victory Mar 1982[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 15. Operation Jerusalem Apr 1982[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 16. Iran Invades Iraq Jul 1982[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 17. Iran Targets Basra Feb 1984[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 18. Iran Captures Faw Peninsula Feb 1986[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 19. Iran Last Attempt at Basra Dec 1986[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 20. Iraq Captures Faw Peninsula Apr 1988 [/font]
[font="times new roman"][/font][/blockquote][font="times new roman"]
Other Middle East Scenarios:
[/font][blockquote][font="times new roman"] [/font][font="times new roman"]21. Operation Desert Storm 1991[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 22. Operation Cobra II 2003[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 23. What If Scenario Builds[/font]
[font="times new roman"] 24. Middle East 2010[/font]
[/blockquote]

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:01 am

sometimes i get carried away and so this time I'm trying to stick right to the oob and not adding more...

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:03 am

I do not have this game as yet and that is only due to the price. I'm hoping i get this game as a gift this holiday or maybe who knows will break down and buy it myself. I do like that a game like this has finally been made, even though the one called "Middle East campaigns" is not bad.

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:27 am

i'm wanting to add event's for nations recieving economic aid from off map allies-( Soviet Union and the U.S.) such as raw materials and oil for those nations which cannot produce large sums of these. For instance Palestine ( Jordan) they do not have any oil well's or raw material mines and so would be called mineral poor which I'm trying to reflect reality somewhat since Jordan does not have either of these. The event would allow them to get aid at a high cost of PP points so they will naturally have a more foot based army than mechanized. Armenia is another one which will be able to get raw material aid since they really don't have any mines. Oil now they have alot of, that is since I gave them Azerbaijani territory.....

What would be neat is if you could have allies provide some of their own oil and raw material to their allies which would in effect cause their own supply of these items to decrease. I have added for the Arab/Turkish side as level four tank " The T-55" up until then they can only produce the T-34.

lion_of_judah · Post by **lion_of_judah** » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:01 am

I have now finished placing each nation onto the map with each sides OOB. All units are Brigade to Regiment in size.

Each Infantry unit =200 men so a Brigade of 20 Infantry will = 4.000 men.
each machine gun = 1 platoon
each mortar = 1 platoon
each Tank = 10 tanks
each airplane = 1 airplane
each ship = 1 ship

A typical Infantry Brigade will normally have the following:
20 Infantry
3 machine gun
3-4 mortars
3-4 tanks which will mean a tank Bltn of 30-40 tanks

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