Creature Contest: "Unidentified Dark Matter Object"

[J HG T]

@LoBaron.
No worries. I'm leaning towards DM side in this fight, and I know basics of the theory. No offences meant.

[LoBaron]

I wasn´t offended. And its not really a fight, just an attempt at an explanation. [:)]

[2guncohen]

ORIGINAL: J HG T
And my condolences to 2guncohen that his thread turned into yet another internet war. 

Dont worry best friend [;)] I have something upp my sleeve...

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: 2guncohen

ORIGINAL: J HG T
And my condolences to 2guncohen that his thread turned into yet another internet war. 

Dont worry best friend [;)] I have something upp my sleeve...

Ok guys, my sincere apologies.

I am not around in the DW forum often enough to discern somebody who simply misses crucial information to make
up his/her mind from a forum troll with a lack of taste and intelligence and ethics.

I just found out in another thread here where Kayoz belongs to and green buttoned him. Pointing to the thread in quesiton is probably neither neccesary nor helpful.

Again, apologies J HG T, I now have a clearer picture what you were hinting at.

[Kayoz]

*double post*

[Kayoz]

ORIGINAL: LoBaron
Only I have never seen a reason to believe a statement like "If I cannot see it, its not there" makes any
sense in the realm of physics. It is very often wrong.

I didn't say that. I didn't imply that - now you're fabricating statements.

I said that if you can't observe it directly or indirectly, through experiments to demonstrate it, or at least demonstrate its effects on something else observable - you got bupkis. Dark matter doesn't have either - it has neither direct nor indirect experimental evidence to even SUGGEST that it exists. It "exists" only in equations, because otherwise our equations don't match reality. It was only postulated by Zwicky because otherwise his equations didn't work out - not because our understanding of physics suggested its existence, not because our models hinted at it. No, it was postulated because our equations don't work otherwise.

To make this real simple - it's a step back to the aether theory. We can't figure it out, so we make something up to explain the phenomena. Instead of re-examining our theories, or questioning the accuracy of our observations, we just stick the uber-kludge in to make things work. Something which makes up about a quarter of our known universe - and we can't detect it in ANY WAY. Ya, right. Same amount of proof as for spirits, gremlins and the world-carrying turtle. And we know how well those theories worked out.

Experimental evidence is one of the pillars of science - yet you're saying that it's wrong?

ORIGINAL: LoBaron
But the basics should be easy enough to understand though, that a bit of logic is
usually enough to see the reason behind the model.

I couldn't disagree more. Much of physics is counter-intuitive. It's illogical, it's horribly complicated and it takes a decade of training before you can even begin to wrap your brain around it.

[Kayoz]

ORIGINAL: LoBaron

I am not around in the DW forum often enough to discern somebody who simply misses crucial information to make
up his/her mind from a forum troll with a lack of taste and intelligence and ethics.

As opposed to misquoting, lying and fabricating statements? Sorry, but I never said, "you can't see it, it doesn't exist" - yet there you go LYING and claiming I did.

ORIGINAL: LoBaron
I just found out in another thread here where Kayoz belongs to and green buttoned him.

One less source of lies and fabricated quotations. What a loss.

[Erik Rutins]

Hi Kayoz,

Please dial it back a notch. The idea of posting the creature ideas in the forum is to promote discussion. You're welcome to express your opinion, as long as you also remain civil to other posters.

Regards,

- Erik

[2guncohen]

[font="Arial"]50 years later …

Intelligence Report A2-zxy-45

The Xeno-Intelligence Service received warning that The Long-Range scanners noticed abnormal Energy read outs coming from the Star System AZ-2 in the 1st quadrant of the Outer-Rim Sector.

The Standard procedure was started by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) The Stellar Navy Dispatched a Frigate to the AZ-2 Star system to Asses the cause of the abnormal energy read outs. (So that the Federation can react pro-active on Refugee influx or Piracy)

This System is habited by a Type 1 civilization called the Morbians* who just begun to Colonize a couple of planet and tap Hydrogen-gas from the local gas giant planet. (* Biped, air breeder, carbon based)

The sector was never really considered as a high risk and trade is very sparse and limited due to the “Xeno Development & Reservation laws”, this new development could point that something important happened in the Morbian socio-political system or an extern factor is influencing the stability.

The Xeno Intelligence agency admitted an Agent to the ICE mission.[/font]

Planet Morbo:


The Agency had reasons to add a Mantis-agent* to this operation, because we suspected the threat was closing in. (* Top-Secret Special Black ops X-IA agents)

The projections pointed that sooner or later a Level 1 Civilization in the outer rim would be victim of the Unidentified Dark Matter Object.

The ICE requested why we wanted an agent on board and we provided a plausible explanation that some old federation tech was sold* and that we have to Asses the impact.(*Black market)

Gullible as they are they believed us.


End report.

[Kayoz]

ORIGINAL: Erik Rutins

Hi Kayoz,

Please dial it back a notch. The idea of posting the creature ideas in the forum is to promote discussion. You're welcome to express your opinion, as long as you also remain civil to other posters.

Regards,

- Erik

Erik,

Doesn't civility exclude spreading LIES and misquotes - as LoBaron so loves to do?
Doesn't civility require reasoned comments, rather than personal attacks, insults and cheap bullying attempts?

Shouldn't you be addressing those problems?

[2guncohen]

[;)] oke kayoz,

you are a smart guy/girl ( you never know for sure on the internet [:D] )
I propose you reflect a litle bit that a posting should honor the subject of the thread.

And everything will turn alright.

This was my 2cents of wisdom I wanted to share with you!

[Kalthaniell]

The 'UDMO' would create a great external threat for the empires that advanced 'too much'in the final stages of the game (by too much I mean- they leave little or no chance for the other empires to expand because they are so advanced and powerful). This would be a great chance for both more and less advanced civilisations to either use the distraction to try and rebalance the power in the galaxy or use the full military potential against a competent and equally powerful enemy. It's something the Shakturi managed to do and I enjoyed it a lot. That could rejuvenate a potentially won (therefore not so exiting) playthrough and keep the player vigilant and on his toes even if other empires pose no real threat. It also reminds me of the reapers from ME, and I simply love ME so it's a BIG plus too.

That's why I like your creature concept

[Kayoz]

ORIGINAL: 2guncohen

I propose you reflect a litle bit that a posting should honor the subject of the thread.

I thought taking into account recent scientific discoveries (or lack thereof) would add some flavour to the game. All that would be required, would be a textual modification to the creature's description - exotic matter creature, or what have you.

For example, helium has some bizarre physical characteristics - remaining liquid even at absolute zero - a creature composed of some equally bizarre matter might NEED to feed on high-energy sources to maintain its physical integrity. And given that ships are powered by miniature suns, this might help explain why it's attracted to civilizations - being lured away from their usual feeding grounds of neutron stars and black holes and storms (not sure what you're supposed to call the DW storms), by the emissions of passing ships, or in particular - high energy weapon discharges of space battles.

[2guncohen]

Intelligence Report A2-zxy-46

Xeno-Intelligence Agency officials provided a report of "The Threat"-assessment - Steering Comité.


This information was collected by the Mantis-Agent we planted on board the ICE Frigate "Melchior".

The mission was a succes and the Data-Crystals where retrieved at the rendez-vous location x they contained the captains logs and the visual information.

1. Logs of the captain:

Captain log day 1:By Vectron , All crew are ready and excited for this little mission, But am a little worried about the XIS-Agent they forced on me. I sended a request to remove the XIS-Agent but the Director of the ICE said he was overruled and that these facts never happened.

With other words something stinks with this mission...

Captain Ban Hammer Follower of Vectron :Served as captain the ICE Frigate "Melchior" for 30 years.


Captain log day 4: I had to much tasks to fill in my logs , Overall everything is fine except some argument with my science officer he still pretends Dark Matter doesn’t exist… I tried to argue with him for hours ... He boasted No experimental proof show it exists, no real theory as to what it is why not just call it "god" he boasted …

And that little Frog faced X-IS agent overheard us and laughed that we where in for a surprise …

what did he mean with this?

Captain log day 5: By vectron, Again Arguments with the science officer ,I said that he was misunderstanding everything and that closed the argumentations.

Captain log day 6: Again arguments …

Captain log day 7: Argument about god particle …

Captain Log day 8: Requested the security officer to throw the science officer in space.

- He refused ...

Captain log day 9: By vectron, I played Chess with the science officer he really is talented.

Captain log day 10: Long-range showed that a huge pike of Gamma-Radiation came from the 5th planet of the system .
Old survey stated that a Small colony of 250.000 Morbians where settled on this planet. No organic life can survive a cataclysm...

- All ships departments-heads are briefed and are pepping up the crew.

- Ordered the ship to go in yellow alert.

Captain log day 11 : By vectron, ships sensors Begun to register lesser traffic echo’s on the Long-range Sensors. It even seems the Echo’s where going away to the Kuiper belt of the star system.

Yesterday we received an S.O.S from a Morbian civilian ship they where talking incoherently about shadows and matter of the cold space. The ship was closing in and we estimated burning all the fuel to get nearer, in the end the distance was in reach of our torpedo launchers.

May Vectron guide me.

- I ordered the ship in red alert.

- Following protocol, I requested the security officer to follow procedures like the security act article IV described in the law of Protection and Stability about containment.

- I ordered the First officer to arm a torpedo.

- A hard decision but we don’t have the facilities for refugees and we have to follow the procedures.
30 minutes later the Freighter-Ship was destroyed together with its crew.


Captain log day 12 : A listening satellite was launched today to the asteroid cloud of the 5th planet. It should be on-site around 5pm and the data flow connection 30 minutes.

- I'm going to get some sleep ill need it.



Captain log day 13: Satellite is in range of the planet this green world is totally destroyed ...



The science officer said that something influenced the physical integrity of reality and shifted it beyond known science..
In other words the mass is gone ... Its not even measurable in the energy read outs...

- I requested the X-IA agent to my cabin for a private conversation ... He knows more I can smell it ... He refused ...

- The long range scanners see echo's disappearing around the planet Morbo ...
I ordered to stay on distance and hide in the asteroid belt, after consultation with all officers I contacted the launch bay to prep a Mobile Reckon-Probe who will be shot to the planet Morbo.

- The X-IA agent Finally showed on the deck...

- We will know more in the following day ...


Captain log day 13: All the echo's around Morbo are gone in a blink or are trying to hide in the system.
The Probe finaly the probe arrived.... and by vectron, what we saw on visual was the end of the planet Morbo...

- the science report said that some form of complex energy readout was fluxing into our space-time.

- The X-agent was Staring and he we all overheard him saying the word "Unidentified Dark Matter Object" the threat is real.
He said we should leave the system asap and that he will use his veto-right provided by the Xeno-Inteelligence Law.

Planet Morbo:

First Image: long range:

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Captain log day 14: After witnessing the end of the planet Morbo, we are leaving the system to the the co_ordinates the X-ia agent forced on me ...


ICE Frigate "Melchior"
was planned to be demoted in the next coming Federation year.
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The X-IA agent did a perfect job leading the ship to the redez-vous point to discard the data crystal, the crew of the ship has been discarded by a black ops team with co-operation on the onboard agent the ship was parked right in the middle of a newly layed minefield in this remote sector.

Now we wait ...


End of log-report



Ill upload some extra picture's Monday when im back home.


Hope you enjoy the reading

[Data]

I can see this not only winning the contest but becoming an AAR of it's own. Clone Fred, man, clone Fred...

[2guncohen]

ORIGINAL: Data

I can see this not only winning the contest but becoming an AAR of it's own. Clone Fred, man, clone Fred...

Well I tried to give it a twist and flavored it with different famous AAR's and other fluff.
But its about time Emperor Fred comes back for new adventures [&o]