Bio on a person with mental health issues

[warspite1]

ORIGINAL: oldman45

Biggus63 that had to be the best description of have seen of Monty ever. I would suggest you write about him.

Warspite1

And little wonder, he really was a ****

Dickhead, wanker

Yeah, really great [8|][&:][:(]

[Biggus63]

ORIGINAL: warspite1

ORIGINAL: oldman45

Biggus63 that had to be the best description of have seen of Monty ever. I would suggest you write about him.

Warspite1

And little wonder, he really was a ****

Dickhead, wanker

Yeah, really great [8|][&:][:(]

Not words I use commonly Warspite1, but words commonly used in Australia, and as I made apparent that is how he would have been perceived by the average Australian. Even Monty's most ardent admirers concede that he wasn't a particularly nice fellow, and your own officer caste saw him to be 'something less than a gentleman' as well. Why you would use my quoting of words that may or may not have been used in connection with him by working class Australians over 50 years ago to have a snide dig at me is your own business.

Of course.....he might have been completely normal until he had to grow up in Tasmania, what with all the intermarriage and them having two heads and all......(comedic licence...no hate mail please)

Oh, and as for the word the forum censored out it was p r i c k, a word I've heard used by the English commonly.

Cheers Warspite1, have a good day.

[Cap Mandrake]

Can it be an autobiography? [:D] How about a personality disorder?


I would suggest "Dreams of.."...heck, I can't remember the whole title. I'll get back to you.

[Empire101]

ORIGINAL: Biggus63



Even Monty's most ardent admirers concede that he wasn't a particularly nice fellow, and your own officer caste saw him to be 'something less than a gentleman' as well. Why you would use my quoting of words that may or may not have been used in connection with him by working class Australians over 50 years ago to have a snide dig at me is your own business.

Of course.....he might have been completely normal until he had to grow up in Tasmania, what with all the intermarriage and them having two heads and all......(comedic licence...no hate mail please)

Oh, and as for the word the forum censored out it was p r i c k, a word I've heard used by the English commonly.

Cheers Warspite1, have a good day.

I'm with Warspite on this one. I'm no fan of Monty, he was a deeply flawed man ( just like the all the rest of us ), but there really is no need to use those sort of words. Warspite is certainly not having some sort of snide dig.

If I was to go on a Russian website, ( or this one...it does'nt really matter where ), and call Stalin a ****, I would expect to be banned for being abusive and/or inflammatory.

Let us all try to conduct ourselves in the spirit of this forum, and if language from the gutter has to be employed to make a point then the *£!%$^ symbols are more than adequate.

And just to confirm my working class credentials, D******d, W****r & P***k are all in common use in England as we speak, and not from 50 years ago.

Cheers Biggus63, have a good day.

[LoBaron]

ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

ORIGINAL: Fallschirmjager

Do a search and read the complete Matrix forums works of Japan/Helmut/Linda/etc [:D]

[&o]

Although the psychological condition might apply ny59giants is searching for the biography of any other

famous military person

except MacArthur.

I very much doubt that a random sad excuse for an internet troll qualifies for this, funny as he might be...

[Biggus63]

ORIGINAL: Empire101

ORIGINAL: Biggus63



Even Monty's most ardent admirers concede that he wasn't a particularly nice fellow, and your own officer caste saw him to be 'something less than a gentleman' as well. Why you would use my quoting of words that may or may not have been used in connection with him by working class Australians over 50 years ago to have a snide dig at me is your own business.

Of course.....he might have been completely normal until he had to grow up in Tasmania, what with all the intermarriage and them having two heads and all......(comedic licence...no hate mail please)

Oh, and as for the word the forum censored out it was p r i c k, a word I've heard used by the English commonly.

Cheers Warspite1, have a good day.

I'm with Warspite on this one. I'm no fan of Monty, he was a deeply flawed man ( just like the all the rest of us ), but there really is no need to use those sort of words. Warspite is certainly not having some sort of snide dig.

If I was to go on a Russian website, ( or this one...it does'nt really matter where ), and call Stalin a ****, I would expect to be banned for being abusive and/or inflammatory.

Let us all try to conduct ourselves in the spirit of this forum, and if language from the gutter has to be employed to make a point then the *£!%$^ symbols are more than adequate.

And just to confirm my working class credentials, D******d, W****r & P***k are all in common use in England as we speak, and not from 50 years ago.

Cheers Biggus63, have a good day.

I'm sorry that you and Warspite1 are offended by my musings, for that is all they are, as to how Monty might have been perceived, and what forces may have been at play to create his singularly unusual personality. Plainly my robust language has caused at least two people offence, and that's two people more than I intended to offend.

[WO Katsuki]

Stalin? well he had a long comfortable life in the kremlin [:)]

... while 30 or so million russians died protecting packs of ice and snow, or laboring as slaves in farms and factories [:o]

Cheney? well he had five deferments from vietnam, and even got away with shooting someone in a "hunting accident" [X(]

... while a lot of other people were chasing each other around the jungle, or get the elecrtic chair for said crimes [:o]


but keep calling these guys ill.. it's called intra-specific competition [8|]

[GI Jive]

In a slightly different vein, you might consider writing about Audie Murphy, who experienced what is now called PTSD (during his life it was referred to as "battle fatigue" and later as "Post Vietnam Syndrome"). In your career you are likely to encounter many patients with PTSD symptoms from combat and other causes. His autobiography "To Hell and Back" contains extensive details of his war experiences, but not his post war problems. http://www.arlingtoncemetery.net/audielmu.htm

[Empire101]

ORIGINAL: Biggus63

I'm sorry that you and Warspite1 are offended by my musings, for that is all they are, as to how Monty might have been perceived, and what forces may have been at play to create his singularly unusual personality. Plainly my robust language has caused at least two people offence, and that's two people more than I intended to offend.

Not offended, and there is nothing wrong with robust language when it is required.

On a lighter note, your post did make me smile.....I know where you were coming from....[;)]

[jeffk3510]

I have always tought Sherman or Stonewall Jackson would be interesting studies. Especially Stonewall. He seemed like a rather odd duck.

[Skyros]

Savior of the Gamecock nation. Nothing wrong with him.

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

My first thought: Steve Spurier.

(Since NYGiants lives in the South, he'll know why Spurrier readily comes to mind.)

[Nikademus]

ORIGINAL: ny59giants

This fall I'm take a graduate level course in "Psychopathology" as one of the three remaining courses I need to get me up to 60 credit hours for eligibility to obtain my LPC (Licensed Professional Counselor) for work next Spring. One of the assignments is to read a biography on a person with a possible mental illness that I can diagnosis using the DSM-IV and then get into the diagnosis and treatment of it afterwards (not necessarily for this particular person). The first person that came to mind was MacArthur, but is there any other famous military person and the name of a book that you would recommend??

Thanks!

Having a monstrous ego doesn't IMO qualify as a "mental illness" If so, i'd say just from a military history standpoint, the halls of Bellevue would be overflowing. Hitler would be a better person to study. His rise and fall make a fascinating contrast to that of Joseph Stalin. Both shared feelings of mistrust and paranoia, but whereas the setbacks in Hitler's career as a politician and military strategist caused a deepening rift with his relationship with his Armed Forces and decent into madness (aided by drug addiction) , Stalin was able to overcome his early setbacks and despite his own very healthy sense of self preservation and paranoia, developed a working relationship with his Military leadership that was key to Soviet Russia's victory against the Germans.

MacArthur's tendency to address himself in the Third Person doesn't hold a candle to that. As for his accomplishments....or lack of.....it depends on which author you place the most stock in.

[CaptBeefheart]

Orde Wingate comes to mind for someone beyond the usual megalomania of a top general.

Cheers,
CC

[1EyedJacks]

George Armstrong Custer. A few books listed in the link below.

http://www.amazon.com/Custer-Jeffry-D-Wert/dp/0684832755

[CyrusSpitama]

Seeing how all these other fine suggestions have been made I should add a little spice to my suggestion of Sir Lawrence of Arabia.

He did some of these things:

Organized and lead Arabian forces against Turkey and pioneered guerrilla tactics still used to this day. Fast, small moving forces that strike a point, do damage, and disappear into the sunset. Desert warfare at its finest. Sadly, he taught the Arabs the extreme usefulness of jury rigged IEDs which is a big problem in the area today. He was a natural with explosives and had minimal training. He was at times reckless with his own life when dealing with said explosives...

Was one of the first to recognize and promote the idea of airplanes to help control vast areas of land.

Had an unusually bright and adept tactical mind and often went right to the top commanders speaking as if he was an expert on the subject. Often he was the best expert available... hehe He had a history of doing this and some of his superiors acknowledged this usefulness. They often granted him direct access to their office which infuriated the officer(s) between him in the chain of command quite often.

Pioneered map/land surveying procedures and integrated airplanes into his methods.

Was a truly superior marksman!

Was promoted to an officer status without ever going through proper officer channels so that he had an official status for his military business. This was to prevent the hassles of going into and out of the above mentioned commander's offices

Eventually was almost handed the command of the entire Egyptian office. That area was divided into different command structures and he would not have been the only command(er).

Personally led many battles and was known for suffering many wounds, but never being subdued except for the common sicknesses in the area(Egypt and Arabia). He got sick a number of times but persevered through them despite nearly dying on more than one occasion to these illnesses.

Was personal friends with personalities like Winston Churchill who he advised and educated on more than one subject...

After the war became a speedcraft expert and changed the designs on all of the British launchcraft used for rescues and such.

Did I mention he was an archaeologist before the war? He also pioneered digging techniques in the sands of the desert near Syria. He also made a number of survey trips and traveled all through the area where no white man had gone before... More and more travels as the war began of course !

Personality traits:

Was a prolific writer of letters. Also wrote the Seven Pillars of Wisdom. Monster book that... He spent many years, writing and organizing it, his printer and publisher were always in doubt(with multiple printers looking to print it), it was a truly epic adventure. An instance where the details of him getting this book together are just not able to fit in a relatively short forum post...read the bio and google the book!

After the war, he felt great guilt in how things played out for the Arabs having their lands divvied up by the powers. He used his high level military and govt contacts to enlist in the Air Corps as an aircraft mechanic and engineer(little of this though). Think about this, an enlisted man who once could have a command in Egypt! He changed his name and tried to hide in their ranks. He was even refused entry multiple times until he used his contacts to push him through despite age and physical handicaps. Needless to say, this was trouble. So many other details to this part...

Refused honors and awards the king tried to give him. He settled for an old rifle with quite a history... (wish the forums would let me post links on these things) He also accepted a number of honors from the French who also considered him their worst enemy for negotiating French claims in the area of Syria.

Was probably often seeking great deeds to be recognized for yet, despised the unwanted attention it brought to him. With the play based on his epic hero story, he was probably the very first media frenzy character with paparazzi and all ! He was famous throughout Europe and very much so in America.

Considered much of the pain he suffered from wounds, traveling the deserts, illnesses, battle wounds, as his penance, shall we say, for all of his actions. His tolerance for pain was amazing.

Was an illegitimate child of two very religious parents. His mother was extremely religious so this was quite the scandal. Mother and Lawrence had a unusual relationship... So much nuance here, it's best if I say nothing much without you reading it.

Celibate his entire life except for one shocking instance at the hands of the Turks. He did propose to a woman once when he was younger. Enough said on that for now, just a taste of much, much more. Read the book !