Europe Aflame 2012 PBEM

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RE: Europe Aflame 2012 PBEM

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ORIGINAL: Cfant2

hehe, the fins are tough guys, it will cost your opponent some time to fight them down. Maybe you can hold out until Barbarossa? :) I wonder, why your opponent didn't move into Belgium. This way, you only stand 6 Hex from Paris, and three turns of case yellow still ahead. Looks good :) To kick out Beglium and Netherlands within two turns needs luck, I guess. So no reason to worry about this ETE. Now go on and visit the city of love ;)

Im not sure moving French units into Belgium is a wise move i dont tend to do this when i play as the Allies,I think my worthy opponent has built his French defences as deep as possible its harder to attack under 3.4,If you notice his French front line is made up of Infantry divs his big units are further back,I guess he is hoping that my units will be a bit low on readiness when they engage them.
Not sure what to expect in Finland he blows the bridges behind my front line but no attacks maybe he wont attack at all but he will get 3 Armd corps for the Red army for declaring war they will come in usefull.
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Turn 40 The 31st March 1940

The Germans are closing in on victory in the Low countries Amsterdam is under attack,Brussels has fallen the Belgians will surrender next turn,The Whermacht can focus on the French now and attacks are being made on the French frontier forces so that when i take the case yellow option my shock bonus will be used fighting the main French army and not a few Divisions acting as a screen.

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Sure, one can see it that way (concerning "march into Belgium"). As the germans will push back any french line sooner or later, I'd prefer some hexes more as the allies [;)] but it would be a bad scenario with only one right choice. [:)]
What I don't understand are the attacks on Antwerpen and this fleet-base in the netherlands. You took Brussels and Amsterdam will fall soon - so the troops in the other cities will disappear. Aren't it useless losses, if attacking the other cities now? Next turn you get them for free.
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Sure, one can see it that way (concerning "march into Belgium"). As the germans will push back any french line sooner or later, I'd prefer some hexes more as the allies [;)] but it would be a bad scenario with only one right choice. [:)]
What I don't understand are the attacks on Antwerpen and this fleet-base in the netherlands. You took Brussels and Amsterdam will fall soon - so the troops in the other cities will disappear. Aren't it useless losses, if attacking the other cities now? Next turn you get them for free.
Your absolutley right no need to attack Antwerp as i had captured Brussels the combat round before but the attack planner gave me massive odds for success for no losses so i tried it out and it happened as the planner predicted so nice to see, sometimes the planner is way out on predictions you get predicted heavy losses and no chance of succes and it works in your favour.
As for the unit attacking Rotterdam he is supposed to be attacking Amsterdam with the other units so i guess i clicked in the wrong hex ?? oops
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Turn 41

The Belgian army has surrended but the Dutch fight on for another week,The German army is pushing into France and trying to reach the main French front line before i execute case yellow,Trying not to take to many losses however i will have to stop soon and regroup.

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Turn 43 The 21st April 1940

Case Yellow the invasion and conquest of France is under way,The Netherlands surrendered last turn and my units are at there start points ready to thrust onto Paris(the surrender trigger for the french army).
Im sure this will be a lot harder than normal with the 3.4 patch i just aim to capture Paris without to many losses, im not expecting to capture Paris or even be attacking Paris within the three turns of the case yellow shock bonus but i hope to be within a hex or two and in pretty good shape.

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The Finish front remains quiet neither side has made any offensive moves although the bridges in Finland are blown my attempts to rebuild them dont often work and when succesfull they get blown again.
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Turn 44 The 28th April 1940

Case yellow continues ive got two turns of posative shock left although some headway is made some heavy losses are taken some French units seem to stand there ground despite serious losses over multiple combat rounds.
The Luftwaffe is almost entirely providing direct combat support to help out my ground troops as much as posible.

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Where are all the French units? Your opponent should have enough to build a 2-3 hex strong defensive line from Swiss to the canal. [&:] Well, won't complain. On to Paris! Please tell us, how many HRS you have lost, when France surrenders. What's your plans regarding Italy?
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Turn 45 The 5th May 1940

One turn of shock left the Germans drive on towards Paris and get within 50Km the French are dug in deep now mainly centred around the French capital my troops are begining to tire and my losses are begining to mount although they are not serious yet.After this turn i will have to halt the offensive while my units rest and refit.


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Where are all the French units? Your opponent should have enough to build a 2-3 hex strong defensive line from Swiss to the canal. [&:] Well, won't complain. On to Paris! Please tell us, how many HRS you have lost, when France surrenders. What's your plans regarding Italy?
I guess my opponent has decided that Paris is the only hex realy worth defending and has dug in his main units acordingly,I think the assault on Paris will be costly keep reading ,Thanks for your interest Cfant2

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Turn 46 the 12 May 1940

OKH has called for a halt to my offensive(80% shock for two turns).I had hoped to get into a better position for the assault on Paris but never mind the main thing for me to do now is get my armies ready for the next stage of the offensive.
I need to get these two turns of shock out of the way and manuever into a better position for the final assault when my next shock bonus appears (TO germans continue the offensive)

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Turn 47 is mostly used resting and moving a few units around into better positions for the final assault the offensive will continue on turn 48 every turn is precious as the French reorg units will appear about 8 turns after case yellow starts this comprises 4x motorised corps 3x Armd divs 2x AT Bdes and 2x Arty Divs my battle worn troops wont want to fight them for too long.
The map below shows the early stages of the build up of forces to execute operation Marita the invasion of Yugo slavia which will start as soon as some Whermacht units are available.

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Turn 48 The 26th May 1940

The rest period for the Whermacht is over i dont know if this is the right decision but im continuing my assault on the Paris defenders now rather than wait for the Germans continue the attack TO,Im concerned about the arrival of the French reorg forces they are due to appear in about three turns if i can take Paris before then i may lose less squads??
Army Group A supported by Army Group B assault heavy concentrations of French units some attacks are great succeses but some realy hurt my assault forces but headway is made towards Paris.


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Turn 49 The 2nd June 1940

The effects of the 3.4 patch are realy starting to hurt now the French are sitting tight and absorbing punishment like you cant imagine attack after attack are repulsed im obviously doing something wrong the German army and airforce are wasted i should have waited for the next shock bonus this is seige warfare,What does Blitzkreig meen again ??

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you need to make a "mad dash" for paris VERY FAST.
Why surround it? It is a supply point, take Paris and all your problems are gone (the counter withdraw).
Attack with your Panzers directly into the city, nothing else.
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What does Blitzkreig meen again ??

You started the attack on Belgium and Netherlands on turn 38. Now, 8 turns later, you stand on the outskirts of Paris. [;)] Faster then RL, I think. Yes, the French may delay their defeat a round or two (or three). But victory is at hand :) Rotate, use your higher supply level and soon Mr. H. will get his PR-Fotos from the Eiffel-Tower. [:D]
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you need to make a "mad dash" for paris VERY FAST.
Why surround it? It is a supply point, take Paris and all your problems are gone (the counter withdraw).
Attack with your Panzers directly into the city, nothing else.
My aim isnt to surround Paris but to assault from multiple directions,Ive alreadt tried a more direct approach but the French didnt seem to want to retreat and losses mount very fast with the 3.4 patch, battering my way through with Panzers hasnt worked [&:]
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Most of your troops are in deep red the luftwaffe too and you attack with minimize losses (i can only see this pic) and you think you can push aside a well entrechend enemy??
Those are stacks with a yellow or even a red indicator so there are a lot of soldiers in this trench you want to conquer...
instead of swinging around paris those panzer should take 2 rounds of supply and this only works (acceptable) with NOT MOVING!! them
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True enough. This I meant with "rotate". In this phase, Germany should have enough troops to replace depleted units with fresh ones. And, if I remember right, your supply rate is higher. France can't win a war of attrition. [;)]
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True enough. This I meant with "rotate". In this phase, Germany should have enough troops to replace depleted units with fresh ones. And, if I remember right, your supply rate is higher. France can't win a war of attrition. [;)]
Yes all units are rotated and rested and yes a lot of units are going in to the red the week long turns soon tite units out the more time I wait and rest the more french I will have to fight the assault on Paris will be bloody
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