IJN subchasers

[Symon]

Alfred, I am in awe. Simply, in awe. [&o][&o][&o]
Far as I'm concerned you can put anything you want on your cape and wear any damn mask you please; except if it's in USC colors, those are right out. God made man, man made indoor plumbing and flush toilets, and USC was the result. No self respecting superhero would ever wear USC colors. Heck, they haven't had a decent collegiate sailor in the last 27 years.[;)]
Ciao John

[KenchiSulla]

Nice find, hah

[PaxMondo]

ORIGINAL: Alfred
...Super Hero armed with super search powers ...

Wow.

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I remember reading that one, but dang if I could ever find it.

Amazing!!

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[Alfred]

Back in post #13 above, Symon specifically referred to the AI's use of small vessels. In the the thread I retrieved, Don Bowen didn't actually refer to the AI usuage, so I rather suspect that thread/post was not the one symon actually had in mind.

For Symon's ( and everyone else who cares) I think I have tracked down the exact Don Bowen post Symon had in mind. Look for post #125 on page 5, dated 15 May 2009, from Don Bowen in the following thread.

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In that post Don Bowen specifically says what the AI does with the small vessels. Those who are keen to pursue the matter further are well advised to read all 5 pages of the above thread.

I could post a few other relevant threads, but they would not advance the story that much. Although there is a thread from early last year, where Don Bowen and I make several posts regarding usuage of HDMLs. I think that 2012 thread is useful for the distinction I make between "blue" water and "brown" water navies. It seems to me that the fundamental reason why so many players have difficulty finding a use for the small vessels is that they consistently fail to think what a "brown water" navy actually does. Instead they continue to think of a "blue water" navy which is a much more "sexy" thing to play with.

Alfred

[Mike Solli]

Personally, I love the CHa- class. They carry 8 DC racks. On the rare occasion that they use them, they drop a lot of DCs. As others said, I use them in ASW TFs assigned to ports. Great little ships.

I also have >200 PBs. To'su, Kiso and Ansyu-C. They are in ASW TFs or escorting convoys.

Every ship has a use. It may not be as dramatic as a carrier TF, but there's a use out there for every one.

[Stvitus2002]

the CHa- class. They carry 8 DC racks.

?? Are you using a custom scenario? My CHa's have only one thrower per side
and 2 stern racks,total=4. They carry only the type 95 charge. They
get a 3/43 upgrade which adds a few MG's.....
Beginning to think it's the scenario data that is different.
Babeslite.


WO 0/0

[Symon]

ORIGINAL: Warrant officer 0/0

the CHa- class. They carry 8 DC racks.

?? Are you using a custom scenario? My CHa's have only one thrower per side
and 2 stern racks,total=4. They carry only the type 95 charge. They
get a 3/43 upgrade which adds a few MG's.....
Beginning to think it's the scenario data that is different.
Babeslite.

WO 0/0

Think Mike might have confused them a skoosh with later war E types. CHa-1 was literally a 100' tuna trawler hull. Some wood, some metal, but tuna boats. They had 4 DCs arranged in-line on the rails (not so much rails as roll-off platforms), port and starboard; and two push rails on the stern (same deal, not rails but rather roll-off platforms). They would drop one DC port, one DC stbd, one each off the stern rails.and then run like hell so their stern wouldn't get blown off by the detonations. So 4 ASW seemed reasonable. They did not even have hydrophones (ok, a few had a crude dipping microphone) so Type 95 DCs seemed reasonable.

These boats, just like similar Allied boats, are there to get the attention of the bad guys and make them want to be somewhere else. The AI uses these, as well as similar Allied boats, as automatic port/base/whatever, defense TFs, if such vessels are present in the port/base/whatever.

As Alfred says, "brown water" navy stuff. Human players may use the paradigm or not. The AI will.

JWE