Sim City 5

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: parusski

ORIGINAL: Missouri_Rebel

ORIGINAL: parusski

Whatever guys, I am happy with it.[8|]

I meant to add, if you make Fox News, there is a problem. LOL:

'SimCity' launch proves disastrous

You may be one of the few. It has a current user score of 1.5 at Metacritic. Any stock in EA?

That is a little cherry picking. The game has very good reviews, before the server issue. The horrible ratings are post server crash. Of course the best game in history will see a drop in average ratings after something like this. But the problem will be corrected and this does not take away from a fun, beautiful game.

Here is just one example, from Hardcoregamer.com

"When it’s working, SimCity is an ecstatic god game that can be addicting to play"

Yes, the 'professional' reviews were all quite rosey. I've also found 'professional' reviews to be completely unreliable. I'll stick to reading reviews of fellow gamers that have actually played the game at home, not in a ideal (read: unveiling) setting. Or who are even given perks to review the product (happens in some cases).

I made the (very wise in hindsight) decision to stay away from SimCity due to the always online requirement. I am a huge fan of the Simcity Series through SC4. And the game itself might be playable, the problem is Always Online, Origin and EA. In this case EA's responses to the problem have been deplorable, their product is defective and yet they refuse refunds and threaten to ban players if they attempt to dispute the refund denial. Is EA trying to put itself out of business?

[Darkspire]

ORIGINAL: Otto von Blotto

A no go for me, not only online only which is a joke and I wouldn't buy on principle but a major step backwards from simcity 4 the maps are tiny city's have to be rectangular grids to fit even a small size town on them, no farming or space to landscape no highways, expensive for a basic game that will then have lots of extra content dripped in dlc's each at a cost and then with very little warning they will turn the servers off as they have done many times in the past.

Taken a great game and nerfed it IMO.

I'll stick with simcity 4 and cities XL.

Been waiting a long time for No.5, EA screwed up Spore with there tactics and now this, after the UBISOFT fiasco with the Settlers 7 and online only you would think that someone would pick up that folks dont want online only, like the DRM issue isn't bad enough already with EA, Steam etc. EA used to be the best company for new game types now just run by suits crunching the numbers, you are not wrong about the DLC just had a look on Youtube and found a play through and guess what? In the first two seconds there is a billboard with 'French City Set - Buy now' have a look here

Darkspire

[balto]

When SimCity 5 was working (2 days and the betas), it was great. When they get the server thing fixed, you should get it. But it really is not single player. You can mechanically do it single player, but without working together with other players in a REGION, the experience is significantly diminished. Get it and you will see.

Also Anno 2070 is a single player online and it works flawlessly. That is a great game because it is like SimCity, but you have weapons (Air and naval, no land) and enemies..., really really cool.

Both are big bucks, but they are GREAT!

[DuckofTindalos]

I don't give three hoots for the "when it's working it's great" argument. You can't just cherry pick what parts of the game you want to review, and the disaster of always on is a part of the experience of the gamer.

BTW, the whole refusing refunds and banning people for demanding them is an unfounded rumour. EA has poured failure onto failure with this fiasco, but they haven't gone that far.

[wodin]

The first time sad to say I'm slightly disappointed in you Mr P. Buying games that are always online for SP means they will continue to use such a stupid mechanic or whatever you'd call it. If everyone stayed away and didn't get caught up in the must have hype they'd soon scrap the notion of always online for an SP game. It's silly and wrong.

ORIGINAL: parusski

Whatever guys, I am happy with it.[8|]

I meant to add, if you make Fox News, there is a problem. LOL:

'SimCity' launch proves disastrous

[Josh]

Have to agree with Wodin here, I've read some pretty p%$$ed off folks on other forums. People especially the early buyers are thoroughtly disappointed with the online DRM management, the small maps, the unplayable single player part, etc etc. I've even read somewhere that Amazon stopped selling it because there were so many refunds.
Haven't played Sim City since the first one back in '95 or so but I am really saddened to see it go this way.

[hadberz]

I played in one of the beta weekends (it was online only too). The gameplay is solid, but no way in hell I would pay 60 bucks for this always online crap. It's too bad as I really did like the game.

[LarryP]

I've played this series from the first version on DOS up to Simcity 4. They lost my support with the decision to have Internet play. Frigging shame I can't just download what I pay for and play the game. Pretty stupid. [:@][:@][:@]

[Greybriar]

For what it's worth, 2,777 negative out of 3013 customer reviews at Amazon.

[Shark7]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

I don't give three hoots for the "when it's working it's great" argument. You can't just cherry pick what parts of the game you want to review, and the disaster of always on is a part of the experience of the gamer.

BTW, the whole refusing refunds and banning people for demanding them is an unfounded rumour. EA has poured failure onto failure with this fiasco, but they haven't gone that far.

Rumor or not, its being reported by multpile legitimate news services (which can be wrong from time to time).

Even if it isn't true, it sure isn't helping EAs reputation...then again, EAs reputation is already so bad it probably can't get much worse.

And the real problem here all goes back to the always online DRM requirement. Everyone who wants to play has to connect, and they simply did not have the server capacity for the number of people playing. However, that problem will no doubt resolve itself shortly as people quit trying to play and simply get a refund or throw the game in the trash.

Matrix has it right, once I buy a game from here I install it using my serial number and play it, not having to worry about busy servers or server crashes. Single player games should NEVER require a person to play on a company server IMO.

[danlongman]

I make fatwa on EA.

[DuckofTindalos]

ORIGINAL: Shark7

ORIGINAL: Terminus

I don't give three hoots for the "when it's working it's great" argument. You can't just cherry pick what parts of the game you want to review, and the disaster of always on is a part of the experience of the gamer.

BTW, the whole refusing refunds and banning people for demanding them is an unfounded rumour. EA has poured failure onto failure with this fiasco, but they haven't gone that far.

Rumor or not, its being reported by multpile legitimate news services (which can be wrong from time to time).

Even if it isn't true, it sure isn't helping EAs reputation...then again, EAs reputation is already so bad it probably can't get much worse.

And the real problem here all goes back to the always online DRM requirement. Everyone who wants to play has to connect, and they simply did not have the server capacity for the number of people playing. However, that problem will no doubt resolve itself shortly as people quit trying to play and simply get a refund or throw the game in the trash.

Matrix has it right, once I buy a game from here I install it using my serial number and play it, not having to worry about busy servers or server crashes. Single player games should NEVER require a person to play on a company server IMO.

What happened was that one guy threatened to cancel his payment for the game via Origin at his bank. That's an automatic ban both there and on Steam. Then the story ran out of control, and morphed into the EA BANS PEOPLE WHO ASKS FOR REFUNDS rumour.

[DuckofTindalos]

As for reviews of the game, the only game site I trust (The Escapist) has yet to review it, because they've been incapable of playing it enough to review the whole experience. That seems more realistic to me than this "when it works, it's great" garbage.

[PunkReaper]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

As for reviews of the game, the only game site I trust (The Escapist) has yet to review it, because they've been incapable of playing it enough to review the whole experience. That seems more realistic to me than this "when it works, it's great" garbage.

Love that.... The "not able to review" says it all

[DuckofTindalos]

Which is the main reason why I trust them. They actually possess integrity.

[Shark7]

It also tells me to save my money, if they are 'unable to review' it means the game does not work.

In my case it doesn't matter really, I'm going to stand on my principles and not buy a single player game that has always online DRM. That has been my big hang up since it was announced.

[PunkReaper]

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Which is the main reason why I trust them. They actually possess integrity.

I will look at that site since reviews you can trust are becoming a rare thing.

[Greybriar]

ORIGINAL: Punk Reaper

ORIGINAL: Terminus

Which is the main reason why I trust them. They actually possess integrity.

I will look at that site since reviews you can trust are becoming a rare thing.

Metacritic is the first place I look for a game review.

[balto]

SimCity 5 now works great and now is problem free. I can see there is a huge lack of understanding on how widespread and how flawlessly the on-line games work.

[DuckofTindalos]

There's a surprising amount of untruths in those two sentences.

Oh, and there's no such thing as SimCity 5.