Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

Moderators: wdolson, MOD_War-in-the-Pacific-Admirals-Edition

User avatar
AW1Steve
Posts: 14525
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:32 am
Location: Mordor aka Illlinois

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by AW1Steve »

ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

There is an approximate quote that I heard long ago. It was loosely attributed to a Chinese general, but that may or may not be true. Anyway, it goes:

A poor decision, quickly made and instantly acted upon, fathers a greater chance of success than the perfect plan too long pondered.

I'd heard something like it atributed to GS Patton.
User avatar
witpqs
Posts: 26376
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:48 pm
Location: Argleton

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by witpqs »

ORIGINAL: AW1Steve
ORIGINAL: Don Bowen

There is an approximate quote that I heard long ago. It was loosely attributed to a Chinese general, but that may or may not be true. Anyway, it goes:

A poor decision, quickly made and instantly acted upon, fathers a greater chance of success than the perfect plan too long pondered.

I'd heard something like it atributed to GS Patton.
"A good plan violently executed now is better than a perfect plan executed next week." - George S. Patton
User avatar
Canoerebel
Posts: 21099
Joined: Fri Dec 13, 2002 11:21 pm
Location: Northwestern Georgia, USA
Contact:

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by Canoerebel »

You think George McClellan had a fundamental inability to apply that saying?
"Rats set fire to Mr. Cooper’s store in Fort Valley. No damage done." Columbus (Ga) Enquirer-Sun, October 2, 1880.
User avatar
AW1Steve
Posts: 14525
Joined: Sat Mar 10, 2007 6:32 am
Location: Mordor aka Illlinois

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by AW1Steve »

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

You think George McClellan had a fundamental inability to apply that saying?


Admiral Sergi Goshkof used to keep a sign on his desk, "perfection is the enemy of good enough". I'm sure that "Little Mac" would have had a inability to subcribe to that truism as well. [:D]
Czert
Posts: 591
Joined: Sat Feb 09, 2013 10:56 pm

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by Czert »

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

.


Image
He look like youre relative.....so mayby his greatness is not lost forever.
User avatar
morganbj
Posts: 3472
Joined: Sun Aug 12, 2007 1:36 am
Location: Mosquito Bite, Texas

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by morganbj »

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't have any favorite Sun Tzu sayings. As far as I know, I don't know any Sun Tzu sayings. Other than what I can glean from the title of this thread, I don't know who Sun Tzu is or was.
I think it's related to a Shih Tzu.
Occasionally, and randomly, problems and solutions collide. The probability of these collisions is inversely related to the number of committees working on the solutions. -- Me.
User avatar
catwhoorg
Posts: 686
Joined: Thu Sep 27, 2012 3:47 pm
Location: Uk expat lving near Atlanta

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by catwhoorg »

Don't get involved in a land war in Asia.

and the aligned,

Never fight at sea in the Pacific.


Guess we are all taking those to heart right ?
Image
User avatar
geofflambert
Posts: 14887
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Location: St. Louis

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by geofflambert »

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel
Down here in the South, there is pretty much just one favorite military saying, "Git thar the firstest with the mostest." (I'm not sure Nathan Forrest actually said this - or said it quite like this - but it's universally famous nonetheless.)

I'm pretty sure the exact quote is "Get there first with the most" without the "est"s. But this quote coming from someone who usually did neither, and kicked butt anyway.

User avatar
geofflambert
Posts: 14887
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Location: St. Louis

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by geofflambert »

ORIGINAL: bjmorgan

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't have any favorite Sun Tzu sayings. As far as I know, I don't know any Sun Tzu sayings. Other than what I can glean from the title of this thread, I don't know who Sun Tzu is or was.
I think it's related to a Shih Tzu.



Image
Attachments
AwChusays.jpg
AwChusays.jpg (214.8 KiB) Viewed 233 times

User avatar
geofflambert
Posts: 14887
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Location: St. Louis

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by geofflambert »

More sayings from Aw Chu and others can be found here:

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/other/military_axioms.htm

HexHead
Posts: 464
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:27 pm
Location: I'm from New Hampshire; I only work in cyberspace

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by HexHead »

ORIGINAL: geofflambert

ORIGINAL: bjmorgan

ORIGINAL: Canoerebel

I don't have any favorite Sun Tzu sayings. As far as I know, I don't know any Sun Tzu sayings. Other than what I can glean from the title of this thread, I don't know who Sun Tzu is or was.
I think it's related to a Shih Tzu.



Image

I don't get it - much too abstruse. Something to do with keeping the troops fed?
"Goddamn it, they're gittin' away!!"
- unknown tincan sailor near the end of Leyte Gulf, when Kurita retired
User avatar
geofflambert
Posts: 14887
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Location: St. Louis

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by geofflambert »

ORIGINAL: HexHead


I don't get it - much too abstruse. Something to do with keeping the troops fed?

Well, he actually said "in your own rice bowl". You just don't want to be in a world of Shih Tzu.

Stay out of Shih Tzu parades, too. And cover your face when the Shih Tzu hits the fan.

HexHead
Posts: 464
Joined: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:27 pm
Location: I'm from New Hampshire; I only work in cyberspace

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by HexHead »

Ah, the mysteries of the East...
"Goddamn it, they're gittin' away!!"
- unknown tincan sailor near the end of Leyte Gulf, when Kurita retired
User avatar
geofflambert
Posts: 14887
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Location: St. Louis

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by geofflambert »

.


Image
Attachments
AwChusays.jpg
AwChusays.jpg (213.03 KiB) Viewed 233 times

User avatar
geofflambert
Posts: 14887
Joined: Thu Dec 23, 2010 2:18 pm
Location: St. Louis

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by geofflambert »

.


Image
Attachments
AwChusays.jpg
AwChusays.jpg (232.49 KiB) Viewed 233 times

User avatar
Sardaukar
Posts: 12600
Joined: Wed Nov 28, 2001 10:00 am
Location: Finland/Israel

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by Sardaukar »

Let's try this one:

"Those that live by the sword, tend to get shot by those who do not." [8D]
"To meaningless French Idealism, Liberty, Fraternity and Equality...we answer with German Realism, Infantry, Cavalry and Artillery" -Prince von Bülov, 1870-

Image
User avatar
witpqs
Posts: 26376
Joined: Mon Oct 04, 2004 7:48 pm
Location: Argleton

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by witpqs »

ORIGINAL: Sardaukar

Let's try this one:

"Those that live by the sword, tend to get shot by those who do not." [8D]
[:D]

Or the Lord of the Rings version: "Those who do not carry swords can still die upon them."
User avatar
decaro
Posts: 4004
Joined: Wed Aug 31, 2005 12:05 pm
Location: Stratford, Connecticut
Contact:

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by decaro »

ORIGINAL: HexHead

What's your favorite aphorism in The Art of War?

Mine is, "Rush down like a mountain stream; fill every crevice."

"The skillful warrior attacks,
so that the enemy cannot defend.
He defends,
so that the enemy cannot attack."

And,

"No nation has ever benefited from a protracted war."

Sunn-Tzu's description of various "grounds" are also fascinating.
Stratford, Connecticut, U.S.A.[center]Image[/center]
[center]"The Angel of Okinawa"[/center]
Home of the Chance-Vought Corsair, F4U
The best fighter-bomber of World War II
User avatar
tocaff
Posts: 4765
Joined: Wed Oct 11, 2006 9:30 pm
Location: USA now in Brasil

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by tocaff »

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
Todd

I never thought that doing an AAR would be so time consuming and difficult.
www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=2080768
User avatar
sventhebold
Posts: 360
Joined: Fri Dec 22, 2006 8:16 pm
Location: From MN now AZ Prescott Valley

RE: Favorite Sun Tzu sayings

Post by sventhebold »

Who said "Never interrupt your enemy in the middle of making a mistake."
Because brother do I make mistakes and my PBEM partner makes sure I pay for every one!
The really sad part is we have been playing for 5 years or so and STILL he manages to make me
feel like a TOTAL IDIOT! DUH!
ssgt usaf 84-91 f-15a/c ops puke 525 tfs & 7th tfs
Post Reply

Return to “War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition”