Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
2nd strike risks shredding the elite air on the KB
He probably won't bother
He probably won't bother
RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
In one of my current PBEM games the Japanese player did and my battleships were not as damaged as yours. I sortied out a surface force and launched airstrikes with surviving aircraft. I lost 2 Battleships in airattacks froma 4 carrier KB but in night actions I sank 2 carriers and harrased the other two.
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
Finally managed to finish turn 2... I hate turn 2...


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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
8-dec-1942
Intel for turn 2 shows two interesting pieces of information.
2/I./4th Infantry Battalion is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Manado.
2/56th Engineer Regiment is loaded on a To'su Cargo class xAKL moving to Mersing.
Without Japanese carrier support it will be hard to protect these landings. This might be a chance to disrupt some of the early landings...
For the rest turn 2 is not shocking. The 4 Clemsons that start at Manilla react to the Luzon landings. Not much is hit but one of the covering TFs expends most of its torpedoes on the the brave DDs and a bunch of xAKs collide
Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare
Allied Ships
DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Peary, Shell hits 1
DD Pillsbury
DD Pope, Shell hits 1
Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DMS W-12
DMS W-17
DMS W-18
SC Ch 4
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 6
SC Ch 10
xAK Brisbane Maru
xAK Sydney Maru
xAK Hawaii Maru
xAK Arizona Maru
xAK Anyo Maru
xAK Okiyu Maru
xAK Kotoku Maru
xAK Sanko Maru
xAK Takao Maru
xAK Hokuan Maru
xAK Takaoka Maru
xAK Kamoi Maru
xAK Shinyubari Maru
xAK Bunzan Maru
xAK Shirogane Maru, heavy damage
xAK Shinko Maru
xAK Yamadori Maru
xAK Karachi Maru
xAK Ohio Maru
xAKL Kurama Maru
xAK Oigawa Maru
xAK Chuko Maru
Allied Ships
DD John D. Ford, heavy fires
DD Peary
DD Pillsbury
DD Pope
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
xAK Sanko Maru collides with xAK Shirogane Maru at 80 , 73
xAK Bunzan Maru collides with xAK Shirogane Maru at 80 , 73
xAK Shinyubari Maru collides with xAK Shirogane Maru at 80 , 73
Task forces break off...
Scout and Thanet are sunk (Chokai and friends) while trying to make for Singapore. A couple of air battles erupt with mostly onesides results (allied fighters getting shot down). Not unhappy with the situation as Chris is not concentrating on knocking out the main airbases yet (Manilla, Clark and Singapore are hardly touched) so I might actually get some forts up...
Intel for turn 2 shows two interesting pieces of information.
2/I./4th Infantry Battalion is loaded on a Japanese xAK moving to Manado.
2/56th Engineer Regiment is loaded on a To'su Cargo class xAKL moving to Mersing.
Without Japanese carrier support it will be hard to protect these landings. This might be a chance to disrupt some of the early landings...
For the rest turn 2 is not shocking. The 4 Clemsons that start at Manilla react to the Luzon landings. Not much is hit but one of the covering TFs expends most of its torpedoes on the the brave DDs and a bunch of xAKs collide
Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Natsugumo
DD Minegumo
DD Asagumo
DD Murasame
DD Harusame
DD Yudachi
DD Samidare
Allied Ships
DD John D. Ford, Shell hits 4, on fire
DD Peary, Shell hits 1
DD Pillsbury
DD Pope, Shell hits 1
Night Time Surface Combat, near Vigan at 80,73, Range 10,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DMS W-12
DMS W-17
DMS W-18
SC Ch 4
SC Ch 5
SC Ch 6
SC Ch 10
xAK Brisbane Maru
xAK Sydney Maru
xAK Hawaii Maru
xAK Arizona Maru
xAK Anyo Maru
xAK Okiyu Maru
xAK Kotoku Maru
xAK Sanko Maru
xAK Takao Maru
xAK Hokuan Maru
xAK Takaoka Maru
xAK Kamoi Maru
xAK Shinyubari Maru
xAK Bunzan Maru
xAK Shirogane Maru, heavy damage
xAK Shinko Maru
xAK Yamadori Maru
xAK Karachi Maru
xAK Ohio Maru
xAKL Kurama Maru
xAK Oigawa Maru
xAK Chuko Maru
Allied Ships
DD John D. Ford, heavy fires
DD Peary
DD Pillsbury
DD Pope
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
xAK Sanko Maru collides with xAK Shirogane Maru at 80 , 73
xAK Bunzan Maru collides with xAK Shirogane Maru at 80 , 73
xAK Shinyubari Maru collides with xAK Shirogane Maru at 80 , 73
Task forces break off...
Scout and Thanet are sunk (Chokai and friends) while trying to make for Singapore. A couple of air battles erupt with mostly onesides results (allied fighters getting shot down). Not unhappy with the situation as Chris is not concentrating on knocking out the main airbases yet (Manilla, Clark and Singapore are hardly touched) so I might actually get some forts up...
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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor
RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
One of my favorite aspects of the opening days is fuel and oil smuggling. Not as fun to watch as peanut smuggling but it can be satisfying in its own way. What are you planning to do with the PPs? B17s in the PI? Remember (I think it still does) Cebu also generates supply, so if reinforced, can hold for quite awhile without a major IJA commitment. I assume the Chinese are head'in for the hills? It seems more and more IJFBs like to try and roll up the northern Chinese flank, now would be the time to march some help north. 2 cents from Zulu high command. [;)]
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
Cebu produces 20 supply per day. Thats not a lot but it keeps the troops there alive. I bought out the B17s in the game vs Dennis. They are useful (and just 2 days worth of PPs to buy out three squadrons) if the Japanese player is not careful so I might try that again.
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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
Opportunity presents itself. With only limited air support the Japanese are moving ahead with amphibious operations far south of Luzon... 15 KNIL brewsters will cover the USN attempting to intercept Japanese ships in the area...


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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
North Pacific
This time I'm going to try and close down the North Pacific. I'm moving in CD to Adak Island, as well as an infantry regiment. Saratoga will move north to help cover landings..

This time I'm going to try and close down the North Pacific. I'm moving in CD to Adak Island, as well as an infantry regiment. Saratoga will move north to help cover landings..

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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
9-dec-1941
Philipines near Jolo
Night Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DD Tsuta
DD Yomogi
DMS W-1
DMS W-6
AV Kamikawa Maru
AV Sanyo Maru
xAK Kyokusei Maru
xAK Nansin Maru
xAK Nittei Maru
xAK Ryugi Maru
Allied Ships
CA Houston
CL Marblehead
CL Boise
DD Alden
DD Barker
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall
DD John D. Edwards
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Watch this first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU_GhqVgc9M
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat
Philipines near Jolo
Night Time Surface Combat, near Jolo at 74,90, Range 11,000 Yards
Japanese Ships
DD Tsuta
DD Yomogi
DMS W-1
DMS W-6
AV Kamikawa Maru
AV Sanyo Maru
xAK Kyokusei Maru
xAK Nansin Maru
xAK Nittei Maru
xAK Ryugi Maru
Allied Ships
CA Houston
CL Marblehead
CL Boise
DD Alden
DD Barker
DD Bulmer
DD Edsall
DD John D. Edwards
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Japanese TF suspends unloading operations and begins to get underway
Allied Ships Reported to be Approaching!
Maximum visibility in Partly Cloudy Conditions and 67% moonlight: 11,000 yards
Watch this first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU_GhqVgc9M
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat
AKA Cannonfodder
"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor
"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor
RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
ORIGINAL: Cannonfodder
Watch this first
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UU_GhqVgc9M
CONTACT: Japanese lookouts spot Allied task force at 11,000 yards
Japanese TF attempts to evade combat
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Range increases to 12,000 yards...
Japanese Task Force Manages to Escape
Japanese Amphibious TF evades combat
[:D]
Sorry. That sucks. Right place, right time, wrong conditions, special lookouts.
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
Oooh, that sucks. I hate when that happens!!! 


RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
You can do without that after correctly guessing his intentions
Bad T/F commander?
Bad T/F commander?
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
Meanwhile, near Pearl Harbour...


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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
10-dec-1941
China
34th infantry division will need some time to rebuild...
Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 63017 troops, 349 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1687
Defending force 15745 troops, 116 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 504
Allied adjusted assault: 3368
Japanese adjusted defense: 153
Allied assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Ichang !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
6257 casualties reported
Squads: 115 destroyed, 148 disabled
Non Combat: 159 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 64 (49 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Allied ground losses:
3955 casualties reported
Squads: 153 destroyed, 168 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 39 (2 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
45th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
26th Group Army
Defending units:
34th Division
13th RGC Temp. Division
China
34th infantry division will need some time to rebuild...
Ground combat at Ichang (83,48)
Allied Shock attack
Attacking force 63017 troops, 349 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1687
Defending force 15745 troops, 116 guns, 24 vehicles, Assault Value = 504
Allied adjusted assault: 3368
Japanese adjusted defense: 153
Allied assault odds: 22 to 1 (fort level 3)
Allied forces CAPTURE Ichang !!!
Combat modifiers
Defender: forts(+), fatigue(-), experience(-)
Attacker: shock(+)
Japanese ground losses:
6257 casualties reported
Squads: 115 destroyed, 148 disabled
Non Combat: 159 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 64 (49 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
Allied ground losses:
3955 casualties reported
Squads: 153 destroyed, 168 disabled
Non Combat: 3 destroyed, 24 disabled
Engineers: 11 destroyed, 9 disabled
Guns lost 39 (2 destroyed, 37 disabled)
Defeated Japanese Units Retreating!
Assaulting units:
45th Chinese Corps
67th Chinese Corps
68th Chinese Corps
8th Chinese Corps
32nd Chinese Corps
2nd Chinese Corps
75th Chinese Corps
26th Group Army
Defending units:
34th Division
13th RGC Temp. Division
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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor
"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
¯ Primo Levi, writer, holocaust survivor
RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
He is definitely hunting CVs, not trying to vanish in the vastness of the Pacific. Nice to know where he's coming from, so to speak.[;)]
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
O, he can hunt all he want. Not minding that at all!
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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
Japanese ground losses:
6257 casualties reported
Squads: 115 destroyed, 148 disabled
Non Combat: 159 destroyed, 29 disabled
Engineers: 17 destroyed, 3 disabled
Guns lost 64 (49 destroyed, 15 disabled)
Vehicles lost 23 (23 destroyed, 0 disabled)
Units retreated 2
That should make auto-victory a bit more difficult.

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12-dec-1941
South Pacific

South Pacific

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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
Philippines and Borneo


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RE: Ein Bisschen Grieg: Cannonfodder (Allies) vs Chris H (Japan)
North Pacific


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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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"It happened, therefore it can happen again: this is the core of what we have to say. It can happen, and it can happen everywhere.”
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