Japanese IJN Heavy Bombers?

[John 3rd]

Would LOVE it!

Rick: Do you have the ability to fold in the new art work with existing art? We've asked and asked and no one has volunteered to do that and it would really help.

[topeverest]

I am putting this in the next mod I do... still playing on the features and specifics.

[MadmanRick]

John, when you say fold it in to existing art, are you referring to adding new art files to the A_PlaneSide.bmp for example? If so, I have surely done it, although it isn't my favorite thing to do. Let me know if this is what you are referring to and if so, how much we are talking about (i.e. number of files that need to be added). I'll let you know if my regular gig will allow me the time needed to undertake the project.

Rick

[btd64]

MadmanRick, could you also do a Australian and a New Zealand Buffalo? I have tried a few things to do this myself but I can't get it to work. Its needed for the Between the Storms mod that John3rd and team worked on....GP

[MadmanRick]

I've already done a Commonwealth Buffalo and posted in this thread:

tm.asp?m=2193317&mpage=10&key=

I did two different versions and I can do another if someone has a specific camo scheme in mind.

[MadmanRick]

How's this for your Liz? I still need to do a top and alpha, but I'll have those in a little while.

[btd64]

ORIGINAL: MadmanRick

I've already done a Commonwealth Buffalo and posted in this thread:

tm.asp?m=2193317&mpage=10&key=

I did two different versions and I can do another if someone has a specific camo scheme in mind.

Looks great. I must have missed it last month. Thank you....GP

[John 3rd]

NICE!

How about a RITA? Are you able/willing to move them new plane tops and sides into our combined air art?

[wdolson]

The original WitP had the Liz in stock. I think two Betty units could upgrade to it.

Bill

[MadmanRick]

As far as the Rita goes it is already in the database. Any idea which slots you want them in or can I make the choice? I'll work on it and let you know when they are done.

Rick

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: wdolson

The original WitP had the Liz in stock. I think two Betty units could upgrade to it.

Bill

Thanks Bill.

Seems to me that two Daitai is about the limit.

[John 3rd]

ORIGINAL: MadmanRick

As far as the Rita goes it is already in the database. Any idea which slots you want them in or can I make the choice? I'll work on it and let you know when they are done.

Rick

OK. I have no slot preference. You can download all the plane art folders from the RA Site. RA has all the extra Zero variants that we added.

If you could add/check on the LIZ and RITA then make sure there is a Commonwealth Buffalo for the HMAS Melbourne and HMNZS Wellington it would be GREAT!

Let me know if there are issues. Please email me when you are rolling, otherwise, Post here for commentary.

THANKS!

[ny59giants]

Any update on missing ship art?? G.6 and the two new Allied hybrid CLVs?

[John 3rd]

Will check...

[guctony]

As a Fan of RA. I love the idea of Ritas in the game it adds up to vision of RA perfectly.

I had in mind to ask about LIZ for early period. Even in limited numbers. It will at least give great positive moral to IJN player.

[el cid again]

IJN seriously attempted to buy the FW 200 Condor. In fact,
"the Scourge of the Atlantic" was designed for JNAF - not
for Germany - and the prototype was intended for delivery to
Japan. It was more or less a modified civil transport with
ENTIRELY external loads - and a camera outfit - in that first form.
In a Japan Enhanced Scenario, one also could include later
versions of the Condor with better weapon and defensive
armament. Licensed for production by Hitachi, the Japanese
designation would be H4H1 in the Recon Bomber form. The
upgrade would be H4H2. Still later upgrades - if you want
to go with German missile ideas - could be H4H3 etc. See
slots 876 and 886 in RHS scenario 105 for data.

[el cid again]

Both services considered variations of the
He-177. Both had real problems with the idea
of the German engines and both two engine
and four engine solutions were designed.
The two engine solutions needed big engines
while the four engine solutions needed
major redesign - so none were available
early (as the FW-200 was).

The Navy four engine projects were designed
by and licensed to Hitachi. These would
be designated G5He-1 and 2, the He standing
for Hoenkel (not using the umlauted e as
was the case in that period of time). See
slots 900, 901 and 902 in RHS 105 for details
with various armament including Japanese
Igo missiles.

Mitsubisi designed both two and four engine
variations of the design under the G7M Katana
designation. The four engine variants were
designed first so I call them G7M1a and
they are found in slots 737 & 738 of RHS
105. The two engine variants, which were
developed further, I call G7M1b - and are found
in the same slots of RHS 101 (102, 103 & 104).
There also are pure recon variations of both
type (see slots 852 in 105 and 101 for four
and two engine variations).

There is a web rumor the G7M1a was built (3
examples) and one was stored in the USA for
40 years! I cannot find a shred of supporting
evidence for this claim and do not believe it

[Adolf Galland]

yep this made the game not so offsettable... a littel air fleet with 3 Daitai a 3 x 36 plans. Ok in the middel of 1942...

Option: a improved variant of the LIZ in middel 1943 ? ( change 7,7mm Mg with 12,7 mm type 1 Mg + Armor and reduce Range) ?


Question: i have installed the RA Mods and BTS 1.3... ever i to look to the mods and all conversion to the Claa and Caaa and Fuso Ise hybrid carrier and CL Minelayer was not active ? My Database is full with nice conversions of all this types but i can not see this conversions in Game ?

[Adolf Galland]

ORIGINAL: el cid again

Both services considered variations of the
He-177. Both had real problems with the idea
of the German engines and both two engine
and four engine solutions were designed.
The two engine solutions needed big engines
while the four engine solutions needed
major redesign - so none were available
early (as the FW-200 was).

The RLM demand a Dive Bomber option this was the mainproblem, and coast over 2 years in the development. The coupled the 2 engine to 1 gondel and the engines overheat. The he 177 with singel engine in 4 gondel was stable and good. This Variant came late and was cancel. ( German Emergency Fighter Program)

[el cid again]

Both the Ju-290 and Ju-390 were considered by JAAF, and the Ju-288 was
offered to it in January 1945 (but the offer was rejected). There is
a report few believe of Ju-290 flights to Manchukuo - and I have
found evidence that three such flights were done using Italian crews
vice German crews. These did not result in aircraft in Japan because
all three cases resulted in return flights (with strategic materials).
There is also one "lost" Ju-390 rumored to have gone to Japan to
facilitate escape, in particular of SS Gen Kammler. The fate of the
aircraft and its passenger remains unknown - wherever they went?

In July 1938 Mitsubisi entered negotiations to buy a bomber variant
of the Ju-90 four engine transport. The start of the war in Europe
caused Junkers to back out of the deal before it could be
completed. Japan also bought - and even used (in the Manchurian
Incident) a single example of the Junkers K-37 (imported via Sweden)
in the early 1930s. This formed the basis for the actually
produced Ki-1 bomber - obsolete but extant in 1941. There
were still Junkers K-38/K-51 (Mitsubisi produced) four engine
bombers - they did a fly by over Tokyo after the war began - but
were broken up for scrap shortly thereafter.


Note that Japan got a two engine Ju-88A4 in 1940 - for study -
but after evaluation decided not to produce it. The Ju-88 was
a fine medium bomber and this may have been a mistake. Eventually only
a very modified - and underpowered - Ju-88 went into production -
for the Navy as the Q1W Lorna.