Monsoon yet again!

This new stand alone release based on the legendary War in the Pacific from 2 by 3 Games adds significant improvements and changes to enhance game play, improve realism, and increase historical accuracy. With dozens of new features, new art, and engine improvements, War in the Pacific: Admiral's Edition brings you the most realistic and immersive WWII Pacific Theater wargame ever!

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great discussion...I never realized how poor my grip on reality was!!
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Thanks for very interesting explanations on a foggy (to me) subject.
Just one doubt:
What is the "supplies cap"?
Is it the max number of supplies that can be drained by the base in one turn?
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Blizzard, I believe it is the supplies the base can pull or push in a day? It also might impact the amount a base can store, but not sure.

Symon, I also wish the season could have been coded into each land hex of the area. The simple fact is that the monsoons impact a LOT more area than the few hexes that are tagged in the editor. It impacts from the Philippines to India and all places in between. In addition, it impacts all aspects of play (although it is nice to see that air operations ARE subject to limitations during that time) from movement to combat. If one wanted to slow the game down to a more realistic pace, during the monsoon months combat and movement outside of main roads/rail would be very restricted. Hal
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ORIGINAL: MrBlizzard

Thanks for very interesting explanations on a foggy (to me) subject.
Just one doubt:
What is the "supplies cap"?
Is it the max number of supplies that can be drained by the base in one turn?
The supply cap is the maximum supply that a base can receive in one day from supply movement (meaning for example that airlifts, sea-lifts, etc. do not count toward the cap).
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Witpqs when you say "receive" does that also mean "pass through"? I indicated "push or pull" meaning that cap limits how many supply points a base can get in a day or push out along a supply line in a day. Thus "X" amount of supplies can "pass through" a base along a supply line given a certain base's "cap". Is that right? Do you see what I mean?
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ORIGINAL: dr.hal

Witpqs when you say "receive" does that also mean "pass through"? I indicated "push or pull" meaning that cap limits how many supply points a base can get in a day or push out along a supply line in a day. Thus "X" amount of supplies can "pass through" a base along a supply line given a certain base's "cap". Is that right? Do you see what I mean?
As I understand it, they do not model 'passing through'. If a (potential) receiving base (or an LCU) is within range of a (potential) sending base, that base can send supply to that base (or LCU). 'Range' is a function of number of hexes + terrain + roads, et al + hex side ownership + (maybe) hex sides (rivers??) and the cut-off varies by whether that day is for Long Range or Medium Range or Short Range supply pull. And 'Can' does not mean 'will'. They have decision criteria, some of which we know about (but maybe not all details) and maybe some we don't know about. For example, they have told us that if a base does not have 2x monthly need, it will not send supply to other bases, but will send to LCU. If a base is set to 'Stockpile' supply it will not send supply to other bases, but will send to LCU. It is possible that weather plays a role. They have said that some random factor(s) apply, so maybe some particular day when you expect a starving unit to finally get some supply - it won't! And there are losses to supply that is moved (I don't recall what they've told us in the manual or the forums on that).

The cap, so far as they have told us, limits the amount which that base can receive in a day. There is no concept of 'passing through' AFAIK.
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Ok, thanks. And yes there is attrition to supply along the route, the more efficient the route (the higher movement rate), the less attrition.
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