I want to be a wargamer :)

[bwort1101]

At moment I am watching lets plays to get in the games. Does anyone know something about graviteam mius front? I found it at steam and the reviews are good. Today I will get the demos as u advice. I am not sure if I like the grand scale more than the tactical.

[aaatoysandmore]

If you figure out the Graviteam games please let me know. It's very clunky to me as it seems to have a strategic portion and then a battle portion with setups in the battle portion unlike any other I have seen. Combat mission and Panzer Command both put all the units on the edges of the map and let you place them from there. Graviteam puts them all over the place and I don't find half of them when setting up because it's so dark in many of the scenarios.

[Hexagon]

If you like tactical games at squad level i recomend you "Steel panthers" serie... you can download win versions of WWII and modern wars version for free and test them.

Other good tactical game but at platoon scale is Tiller new PzB serie... specially Normandy, great job with OOB, variety in scens, at same scale you have "Flashpoint campaigns" but is special... WEGO system and you cant control units when they fight, you give orders and them try do their best.

At bigger scales... you have DC serie... i dont touch Barbarrossa but the other titles are good to.

[Kuokkanen]

ORIGINAL: aaatoysandmore

As, someone else mentioned: Steel Panthers World @ War. It's a free download if you look around for it

No need to look further, here it is! It is worth of noting that isn't original vanilla package, but is reinforced with all the updates and some mods, all in one neat installer package. Game has some graphical issues with Windows 7, but there is fix for that.

Otherwise SPWAW is comparable to Battle Academy, but has more depth, detail, and complexity. Enjoy.

[wodin]

Or you cna try Steel Panthers WW2 for free. You can also buy it on disk and get to play at high resolutions. Go to Shrapnel games.

[Rising-Sun]

I know this game isn't on the Matrix, but you could try and maybe like it...

https://www.paradoxplaza.com/darkest-hour

Gotta say the best Hearts of Iron Series there is.

[TheGrayMouser]

I would say after Panzer General, a great next step is the JT Campaign Series of games. Pretty easy to learn, massive content etc. After that, the various versions of Steel Panthers, HPS games etc

[aaatoysandmore]

ORIGINAL: RisingSun

I know this game isn't on the Matrix, but you could try and maybe like it...

https://www.paradoxplaza.com/darkest-hour

Gotta say the best Hearts of Iron Series there is.

And with that you could try "Making History I and II. Turn based instead of real time and much better AI on higher difficulties.

[bwort1101]

I have a last question for Barbarossa. Are the missions time related? ( u had to capture xxx in x turns?) i dont like that

[CarnageINC]

Well Bwort, you are against the time in a sense because General Winter is coming. The sooner you capture key locations the more political points you get to do more things.

[bwort1101]

ORIGINAL: CarnageINC

Well Bwort, you are against the time in a sense because General Winter is coming. The sooner you capture key locations the more political points you get to do more things.

Thats ok

The search for my first wargame is over. [:)] Ty all for help and tipps! [&o] I didnt expect so much response.
I bought Barbarossa [:D] . I will tell u in a few days / weeks my experience.

This seems to be a very nice community!

[budd]

play it on easy[;)] at first and dont forget the helpers.