Alien Abductions in SPWAW 4.3b

Kharan · Post by **Kharan** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 12:01 am

With Hungary and Rumania, it doesn't have to be a desert battle, the VCR makes Hungarian Raba Botonds and Raba Afis disappear on non-desert battles as well. Oddly, British Morrises and Bedfords do not disappear on a summer battle.

Additional British units that disappear in desert are Rolls Royce AC, 2pdr Portee, Ford GT and AEC Matador. Don't know what ties them together, and why some units disappear only in desert and some only on summer maps. Haven't found any German or Soviet units that have the tendency.

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Fuerte2 · Post by **Fuerte2** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 7:44 am

That's exactly what happened with our game. We were playing the Blenheim Blunder, and my PBEM mate lost all his infantry, which was loaded into British trucks.

Kharan · Post by **Kharan** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 6:11 pm

Trucks that go AWOL...

On summer battles:

USMC and Philippines Heavy truck, all Dodges, jeeps, GMC CCKW, Mack Mod NO7.

Czech Skoda ST6, Tatra T92, Praha RV.

On desert battles:

Philippine Dodges, GMC CCKW, Mack Mod NO7.

Czech Skoda ST6, Tatra T92, Praha RV.

When you assign a waypoint for a disappeared unit, the route comes from upper corner of off the map. Their objective is also set at the upper corner.

Windo von Paene · Post by **Windo von Paene** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 7:36 pm

With the Rumanians...

I too had trucks going AWOL.

I however, also had tanks, can't remember the designation off the top of my head, but I beleive they were the "G" models...

Tom Proudfoot · Post by **Tom Proudfoot** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 8:10 pm

Thanks, guys... that helps out a lot. Now off to figure out why these trucks like to go AWOL....

Tom

BA Evans · Post by **BA Evans** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 8:26 pm

Originally posted by Scipio Africanus:
Email is unplayable without the replay.

How can you say that email games are unplayable when you don't have access to the video replay?

In the early versions of SP there was NO video replay and yet many people played the game via email. It was common practice to include a 'turn summary' when you sent your opponent the game files.

I think you are getting soft if you HAVE to have a video replay. The replay definately makes things easier, but it is not required to have a good game.

BA Evans

Kharan · Post by **Kharan** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 8:40 pm

I don't know about the exact mechanics, but maybe when the VCR puts into memory the current unit coordinates so it can recall them after playing the VCR replay, some units' coordinates are placed off the map?

It's pretty mystical that it only happens to certain units and that the terrain set affects this.

Be vewwy vewwy quiet, we've hunting wabbits...

Fuerte · Post by **Fuerte** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 8:42 pm

Are you saying that you still use MS-DOS, not Windows? Or are you soft, too?

Kharan · Post by **Kharan** » Thu Oct 19, 2000 10:29 pm

Originally posted by BA Evans:
How can you say that email games are unplayable when you don't have access to the video replay?

Actually most of the time VCR is working in PBEM (not anywhere near 100% though), the difference of opinion here is just how much exaggaration people should use to get issues noticed

.

Anyway, I'm sure that the programmer guys will find the disappearing bug... I just hope that the troop stealing AI thing would be as (relatively) easy to pin down and reproduce.

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Kharan · Post by **Kharan** » Fri Oct 20, 2000 2:38 pm

Nice going, Tom!

Tom Proudfoot · Post by **Tom Proudfoot** » Fri Oct 20, 2000 5:45 pm

Your tracking down of the it-is-these-kinds-of-trucks-on-these-maps was very helpful, I must say!

Tom

Fuerte · Post by **Fuerte** » Fri Oct 20, 2000 6:23 pm

I can imagine... good job guys!

BA Evans · Post by **BA Evans** » Mon Oct 23, 2000 8:25 pm

Originally posted by Fuerte:
Are you saying that you still use MS-DOS, not Windows? Or are you soft, too?

Actually, YES, I do still use DOS for some applications. As a matter of fact, SP1 is a DOS program.

I still maintain that the replay is not REQUIRED.

Why can't these people send a turn summary along with their game files?

BA Evans

Fuerte · Post by **Fuerte** » Mon Oct 23, 2000 11:10 pm

Do you ever play SPWAW with AI? Do you close your eyes when it's computer's turn?

BA Evans · Post by **BA Evans** » Mon Oct 23, 2000 11:42 pm

Originally posted by Fuerte:
Do you ever play SPWAW with AI? Do you close your eyes when it's computer's turn?

The computer takes so long with those 19-men Polish squads shooting their rifles at my tanks/bunkers (stuff they can't possibly hurt with a rifle) that I usually go running/read a book/watch TV/cook dinner/open my mail/etc. during the computer's turn.

Thanks for asking. What do you do during the computer's turn?

BA Evans

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Fuerte2 · Post by **Fuerte2** » Tue Oct 24, 2000 11:28 am

Unbelievable... I'm running out of arguments!

Then the new opportunity fire option is not for you, and you could as well be playing SP1 in MS-DOS. It was fun back then, but now that we can see what's happening, I can't live without it.